Joe Rogan on the Violence in Chicago

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Tony Hawk is a professional skateboarder, actor, stuntman, and the owner of the skateboard company Birdhouse.

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Did you see the video of the poachers that went to kill the rhino and the lion killed her video of it It's a I saw a picture. I saw still. Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't know if they got a video But yeah, that's fucked up. That's fucking a few do that got jacked right to that sweet. That's we even that's the lion Saying we even look at this turn out the volume Jamie Look at I don't want to use my best brain shit. I don't want to use my bear sprays. That's a good boy That's a good boy, dude, he's coming around Yes, I think my bear motherfuckers it's following them it's circling them around yeah, he's That thing is circling him man. It's going towards him. That's a good boy. That thing is That thing is coming way too close to him man. It's like going in a circle Crap he's huge hell no Yeah, they got lucky there I would have been gone the scary thing about that is that bear could have just decided Randomly through some firing of his bear synapses to take a left instead of a right just go at him He just he could have easily decided that oh those things crazy scared the shit out of me You know why man? We don't believe in things. We don't see we don't believe in them What do you mean you don't believe in things you don't see you know it's real, but you don't believe the danger No, you don't believe in it. It's not a real thing in your world right right when you see if you Were outside and you saw that if you were with those people in Australia you you'd be like oh Jesus this is well no if I was there. I would know that's the reality That's really like my world doesn't evolve doesn't involve being somewhere near that close to a bear So yeah to see it in my world would be what it wouldn't be real now like holy shit This can't be happening, but if you were with those people if you went on that trip, I'd be That would be One of the craziest things you get out with you your whole Existence gets down to the chance that this thing makes a decision to go one way or another yeah Otherwise it's gonna run you down to like that's like life if you go in certain Scenarios you like wait this shit can get real real fast real fast. Yeah, yeah, that's one of them man That is life any that's inner city life is just like holy shit. This is about a pop off in here Yeah, right like how many people died in Chicago last week some insane number? There was a reporting on the lack of attention That the murders in Chicago are getting in like the national news and how crazy it is How do you Chicago several times the one thing that sticks out to me every time I go there's how segregated it is Yeah, I've never gone major where a major city like New York is like we're all right piled up together four killed 24 wounded and weekend shootings God 28 people got shot dude that is crazy 28 people in a week in the afternoon is that fuck Standing on the sidewalk Jesus Christ Jesus Christ Like there is a there is a war going on in Chicago That's way more deadly than most of the wars were engaging in overseas You don't hear about that many soldiers dying every day now. That's another that's another scenario how we said like that's real Yeah, that's real right there's real that's your they walk outside in Chicago That is a real right here that you should have and this is what's correct with number of people in Chicago this year passes 1400 1400 people shot now how many people do we know how many got shot like doing tours of? Afghanistan that's a good question The only thing is this what is this this is the over the year? Just this year sure okay, so let's google how many soldiers were shot overseas this year You know the that's a weird thing man that we got a war going on if that was Mexicans Invading North Dakota and shooting people now many people were dying every day. We would be taking action But because it's happening to it was 1400 and a hundred of them were white people it would be an issue Oh, yeah, it was 1300 black people in 100 white people it'd be yeah, we should be right down. You're really right This is I mean people don't talk about it's 300. I mean it's like crazy That's a weird statistic. It's a terrible Situation like culturally to have something this is And with 1400 people being shot that means and people don't want to realize this is you know Post-traumatic stress disorder is a real thing in the ghetto as well as in the hills of Afghanistan I guess of course it's real of course so when you see something that when people are like why these guys have guns on them It's like dude 1400 people got shot. I'm just trying to get the school them back. Yeah, I'm trying to get the working back of course So it's you know we're not protecting those people It's exactly if they were stuck somewhere overseas in some in the middle of some war You know and they're American citizens to be like please help get out I gotta get these good if there was a place that had like Statistically the numbers of the south side of Chicago where all this murders going down There was a place statistically in another part of the world right we would be saying numbers anywhere else and it's a crisis If we had so let's say Hawaii Let's say if we had just moved into Hawaii I just just took over Hawaii and then we're in an area where people started getting shot and killed by locals like that we would Want to we want to extract those people right why we'd scoop them up from an island We would think they'd be shooting at the helicopters as we rescue it right right well You just look at the real numbers just a raw number. That's a crazy number of people getting shot Just this year. This is July July just started how many soldiers got shot? Can't find trying to find the wounded I can only find deaths okay. What's it deaths? Only like 1500 total since like 2001 since 2001 man, this is since January It seems weird saying only well. Yeah, I know what you're saying I'm usually saying in comparison to the other number since January yeah, that's insane It's crazy. That is insane And that's happening right here in the good old us of a in one of the biggest cities in the world Chicago's giant awesome city and is happening in other cities also that people don't know but Chicago is the most glaring yeah Cuz you yeah, I don't travel around there So I don't know what happened or why it happened why they have this segregation there, and what it was all about go to Chicago man It's like black people all the way over there mm-hmm then there's downtown where it's nice and everybody's you know Detroit has that too right right as well. Yes. Yeah, yeah um man Then you go down south just like that you go to Louisiana it's crazy if you were the king or the president Tony rod. I was the president. How do you fix this? You have to fix this it's a process man first I always say number one is education right education is number one if you're just if you're getting a better education Then you just avoid the pitfalls naturally because you just know that these certain things are wrong And yeah, and by getting a better education. I mean you have opportunities to do you know you have a Music appreciation you have the arts you have sports you have things to occupy you During school hours and after school hours. There's no type of any type of extra Extracurricular activities for these kids hmm in Chicago There's gang life which you are born into which you are expected to go into once you are a certain age you all right You're a man now. Here's a gun. We don't like those guys Those guys don't like us you don't even question it It's like my father's been this way my grandfather's been this way my uncle's are this way my big brothers in this way You know you're born right into it. You don't want to the war zone Yeah, right, and you don't question it And it's a war zone where you sleep and your family lives right not just a war zone with soldiers But a war zone with families and another thing better education you you're more worldly If you see the world you realize how small that how small your neighborhood is and there's a bigger world out there And you could want to go places and see things then you realize like what are we doing here? Yeah, but these are people that I guarantee Probably never left Chicago right probably never went on vacation to the south to visit grandparents and realize damn The south is nice and quiet and the people are friendly and they've never been to you know The zoo and saw an animal and went home and googled the mating rituals of this you know open your mind Open your mind you see the world The stuff that you're involved in becomes just so small yeah, this guy I don't like Scott cuz he has one red, and I have on blue. I don't get it So in education that tiny little area you know Though that he operates in with his living his life. It does matter right right that's right right your reality is What's around you? Yeah, that's what so you get a scope of a bigger world like I grew up in the hood I grew up in Bedside, Brooklyn the one of the wildest neighborhoods when I was going up there But my vision was past it my vision was yeah, this is going on outside, but I'm gonna be There one day. What do you attribute the having the ability to do that too? Having a mom and a dad My pops my father worked two full-time jobs my whole childhood my father literally worked 80 hours a week well 80 So just to see him go every day like Dennis dude this dude works hard man wow Didn't have a lot to show for it made sure his kids had mom was a teacher Education was you know if she made an emphasis on it wow you know it was it was just like my friends My my one of my best friends down the block no dad my friend across the street No, dad my friend two doors down. No dad then crack came and that was Everything fucked up everything started just the neighborhood started just to you know yeah, that was like a plague Crack was people that are alive today or young kids today. They don't remember the 80s. Yeah, there was a like a plague Yep, a plague hit everybody knew somebody that got hit and you so many people's lives were gone done done Over people who are doing fine, and then all of a sudden Yeah, I remember it I remember it well Yeah, it was a weird News yeah, I started losing friends. That's what that's what happened. I started losing friends I saw like people don't it was crazy man like some of the shit We saw I saw a friend get shot in the head like talk to him on the corner Engage what's up, man? Yeah, we gonna play ball later you want to play ball all right cool I hit you later turn to walk down the block Look, maybe you know a thousand feet away and Looked back to like just you know look around the neighborhood and saw a guy just run bang Okay, like he was he looked like if you ever see a old like Big Daddy Kane album Yeah, he had the flat top and a bunch of jewelry on on the corner on the payphone This is beeper days You know beep right and you got a turn and the guy ran up on him while he was returning a beep and just tried to Rob him and then he went for his gun the guy just boom right in his head right on the corner of my block I was right on the corner of my block And I went home and my parents today, and I'm like this is crazy man, and that's where I grew up But my vision was not Confined to where I was it was I'm gonna be you know you're very fortunate once I get out of here I'm gonna do this and once I leave here. I'm gonna you're very fortunate to have those kind of examples You know of your dad who worked like that your mom Very fortunate. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, man It's hard for some people if they didn't get the break that you got in there in that regard I died don't I I it's not missed on me like I realized like if I didn't get that I didn't catch that last chopper Mmm. Good for you, man That's uh, but that's that's where character comes from to means having someone like that as an example Like how like someone who can work two full-time jobs Yeah, and that is that's a force of will most people struggle with one man one is hard eight hours a day My dad's rule was everybody had to have a job at 14 13 was your last summer enjoy yourself at the ball do whatever you want to do 14 you get the job Wow No, he didn't play at all 14 job Yeah, you know since those guys the thing is man That's a bitter pill to swallow when you're young but damn the dudes who go through that always seem like they have an extra gear You know, I know a lot of dudes who went through like boot camp type dads They did not like it But they can do some shit like just a little bit more shit that other people could do, you know They might not like the fact that dad was always telling them what to do But these motherfuckers can hike 20 miles and not complain my dad wasn't boot camp But it was like you're gonna work. That's not even a question You're gonna work and then I have so many siblings that what his rule was, you know We all had to take care of each other. So my oldest brother, of course, he turns 14 first. He's working He gets paid you have to give everybody five dollars. You got paid today. Give all your siblings five dollars Wow Next brother gets a job now. It's two brothers working give everybody five dollars Wow Was like a socialism. Yeah, my dad just made sure it all worked. That's cool. That's very generous, too That's like everybody that's forcing everybody to be in it together. Right? That's smart and taking man And then it was the rule was it was uh, if your brothers in a fight you're in a fight Mmm, so then it became don't fuck with the Rock brothers because there's so many of them you have to fight all of them So that kind of kept us safe during this whole, you know, wow, that's awesome and what uh It's a bad situation to be in but a great place to develop character. It's a lot of opportunities to have character there Yeah, you know who you are. You know what you're yeah, you know that you you know, you develop a a sense of you know Go and get it work hard. No excuses Nobody's doing it for you. Nobody's coming to save you you're responsible for you Yeah, man, we all need to have a little bit more of that in our life and then also a little bit more community, too Absolutely. No, oh, yeah, and I that right and we grew up in a time where it was next door neighbor could spank you Right lady across the street could grab you and make you sit down on the stoop until your mother came home Right, right a guy in the bodega at the corner would tell you to sit inside until your mother came home Yeah, people would they would police the neighborhood, right? Now we live in don't talk to my kid. Don't touch my hair, right? Get off my son. Don't touch my child There's a lot of that. Well, it's because so many man is the weird balance I've talked about this recently But my cousin I saw my cousin get smacked by some lady once when we're we're both like My cousin's a year younger than me So I might have been six and she might have been five somewhere around there It wasn't any older than that right and this lady cuffed her right in the face, man She fell this lady fell on the ice And my cousin just happened to be there and she was looking at her on the ground and she did not laugh at her But the lady said she laughed at her She the lady got up She was just angry that she fell and hurt herself She got up and smacked my cousin right in the face. My cousin fell down I remember seeing it and realizing I couldn't do anything about it to save her to help her You know, I was a little kid too and being terrified that this grown-up person just smacked this little kid in the head For something that wasn't even real like you don't want that either, right? It's like don't touch my kid. It's probably better Well, that's not in the long run. That's not helping raise a child. That's right. I mean as adult That's just a crazy. She was a crazy lady that lives in our building