Joe Rogan on Sugar Sean O'Malley Being Pulled from UFC 239 for Failed PED Test

Hopefully I get Eddie Bravo on the day. With Cheeto Verde. Yeah, you get him on. Cheeto's fight is cancelled, right? Are they trying to give him a replacement opponent? I was hoping they'd get him. Shout out to Cheeto Verde. Yeah, he loved your show, by the way. I love him. He... It's a tough motherfucker. He is. I was hoping he got... I was hoping he got... I was hoping he got... I was hoping he got... I love Sugar Shine. I love both of them. I love how he's taking it, too. Yeah. He's taking it because, you know, I've seen a lot of people online talking about, you know, are they gonna move the car to Interheim now? Nah. They ain't doing that for Sugar Shine. No, no, no. He got a tainted supplement. Yeah, yeah. It's... These new studies or these new tests that they have, they are so fucking extensive. They catch shit that you did years ago. That's crazy. And if you took a tainted supplement, which is something that has zero performance benefit, years ago, it can still show up in your system. Whereas they used to have, like, oh, it'll be out of your system in six weeks, like, especially talked like a gym professor. Like, there's a lot... Look, there's a lot of cheating in professional sports. Is it? There's a lot of cheating, for sure. A lot of cheating in MMA. A lot. But less than they used to be because of USADA and Nowitzki and what the UFC's implemented. 100% there's a lot less. But supplements are a dirty business. I know this firsthand from on it, from being one of the owners of on it. And not even supplements tainted with things that are illegal. When we first started making Alpha Brain, we had it independently tested. We get all our shit third party tested. And we were like, what the fuck is this doing in there? We had stuff in there that's not supposed to be in there. Well, it turns out when you get stuff made, like, say if you have a... You put together some sort of a pre-workout drink and you want to have vitamin B12 and all these different things in it, you get those mixed by a third party lab. This lab mixes it all for you. But you don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're not cleaning out their vats. They're not cleaning out their shit. So they might have been doing steroids right before they do your shit. And you're having to mix you up some creatine and your creatine has Osterine in it, which is like... Yeah, what is that? Some kind of steroid. I don't know what it is. It's some kind of steroid. I was talking to the bodybuilder Mike Rasheed about supplements because, you know, obviously he a bodybuilder. He has a company I think he works with Tri-Fecta too or something like that. And I was just like, how does that happen? Like these tainted supplements. I interviewed him about it. I'm going to release it one day, how he goes into it. But you know, with bodybuilders, they catch flack because they bodybuilders. You got to be on something. But these guys know they shit. He has a legitimate business. I'm sure he does, but most of them are on something. Like if you want to get to the size of like a Lee Haney, you don't get that big without steroids. It's not a human size. You know, when you get to like, you know, just go back and look at like Franco Colombo. Oh, man. My favorites. Oh, my God. But then you look at like Frank Zane. Frank Zane, you can get that body without steroids. What about possible? What about Francis? Francis Ngano? He started to be a bodybuilder. Oh, my God. He'd be gigantic. Yeah. Just naturally. There's natural freaks. Come on. Usman is a freak. Yeah. Like Tyron Woodley is a freak. They freaks. Brock Lesnar is a freak. There's freaks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.