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Neil Degrasse Tyson

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Neil deGrasse Tyson is an astrophysicist, director of the Hayden Planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History, and host of "StarTalk Radio." His newest book, "Starry Messenger: Cosmic Perspectives on Civilization," is available now. www.haydenplanetarium.org/tyson/

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The Binaplaq one yes with Sam Harris. Yes, Sam's a friend of all of Sam. I love Sam too. That was hilarious I think Ben. I think Ben Affleck was roided up Right I really had that energy well He also was like kind of red and thick yeah his neck was thick like listen when you're 40 Whatever the fuck age he is and you want to pack on that kind of muscles. There's only one way to day way You Gotta fucking take that plunger prick baby. Oops you yeah, I think I think he was juiced up, and I think he just was Hyper aggressive virtue signaling and really didn't even know what the fuck he was talking about and clearly Picked the wrong guy. Oh my god. I would never argue with Sam Harris I think about it I think like the fact that he can't be president really pisses me off like I want a guy who's smarter than me Well, he could be president. I don't sure I don't think I'm being an atheist Mmm. Maybe not yeah, it's like why I get I don't get this whole thing of like I want I I want to vote for This guy I can relate to him. He's like me. I don't want a guy like me right It's like wanting a babysitter like I want a babysitter. I want someone who's superior Exactly smarter. I mean he's very meditative Sam and mom and I firmly believe no one should be president I think there should be a council. Oh wise people. I love that idea Yeah, like the Jedi Council fucking eight people or something just really really smart people that have you know have And I think they should all have had to do mushrooms all of them I think why about that all have to do psychedelic experiences all of them should be high They can not not do mushrooms while they're on the job, but have in the past where they understand There's there's more to life than this thing That's part of the platform the person needs to be like I did try mushrooms didn't just try no you gotta go deep You gotta take the heroic dose okay? Yeah? Yeah, I love that idea. I'll think tank Yeah, eight people so you know wise people. I don't really think the mushroom thing is necessary, but but consider it wise objective people that care and have a deep a deep sense of responsibility to sort of Guide our country in the best way possible. I put them in for their own interests Exactly I put Neil deGrasse Tyson on this he'll be great Well, he'll be great for some sort of a role as a science educator in the government Anyways just some what's great about Neil is he's one of the first guys in our lifetime That made science fun mm-hmm made made astrophysics Interested he's so enthusiastic He's a great guy. I fucking love that if we have aliens like we got to send one guy Oh, he's a guy Send Neil deGrasse Tyson well. He's also even even though like he'll be talking to someone Who is you know? Just doesn't really understand what he's saying. He's not a lead ist exactly Yeah, the way he argues he's caring about Yeah, yeah, I think him he's a master at it. He's a really likable guy But he is like that all the time like he's like that when the cameras off He's just a great guy and what quality has it rarely does someone who's like really smart have is he's a big laugher Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a human fun guy. You know he used to be a wrestler I'm a mushroom huh he used to be a wrestler really hey wrestled in high school. He was a Like that yeah, I think he wrestled in college too. He was jacked like fucking jacked. Yeah, he's an all-around Quality human yes, Sam Harris to the way he argues just stays calm mm-hmm Well, he doesn't argue about things. He doesn't understand either. Mm-hmm. You know like if Sam has a conversation and Say like he's having a conversation with someone about whatever the fuck it is Some some discipline that's outside of his realm yeah, and then you know he'll ask questions like he doesn't have he's not He's not know it all that's how you learn yeah, I'll forget But if he's talking to you about something and he's arguing it's because he understands what he's talking about Yeah, that's a rare quality man. There's so many people that want to argue about shit that they really don't even understand You know and I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing things you really don't understand to try to understand them Especially if you're doing it in a casual conversation or even a podcast But there's a lot of fucking people that argue shit, and they're just trying to win. You know they're just trying to score points yeah They're not really talking right you get a lot of that right I do it a lot But I'm more aware of it watching people who are who don't do it hmm you learned Well Pete's normal thing you get caught up in your idea And then you want your idea to be right yeah And then you kind of like chase down all the evidence that would show that your idea is right You see this all the time when someone gets accused of something, and we don't know exactly what happened You see these groups of people that automatically want to think that person is guilty and automatically have a preconceived idea of what went down how it went down regardless of what the other person said Like they they only want to look at it one way Just gets weird real weird with people I turn out to all the information you have to be you have to be a little more You know what hashtag fake news hashtag hashtag I'll come back. I'll get smarter and come back. What kind of smart you're gonna get book smart I'm gonna get Sam Harris Neil deGrasse Tyson smart