Joe Rogan on Porn Addiction

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Theo Von

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Theo Von is a stand-up comic and podcaster. He is the host of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von." www.theovon.com

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She was 18 and the only one I Try to stay off of pornography man. That's one of my biggest arch nemesis is Pornography why cuz it just weakens me it just yeah, how so I put all my sexual You know my fantasies and stuff. They're not mine anymore. You know they live You know somebody created them better than my imagination can and so they live in these You know on the internet in these boxes, and it's like and if it's not mine I think then it's I don't value it as much or something and so I think it It like weakens my ability to like be able to have sex and like be comfortable in that sort of world and really oh, yeah weakens your ability to be comfortable like how so well because I get used to watching the sex and seeing it and Not having to like Be engaged with my actual feelings or anything so then I see it and I still get all the joys out of it You know I'm still out there ejacking and you know Spraying out natural, but it's I don't get any I don't have any of the feelings attached to it So then when I am engaged with somebody that I care about or something it just doesn't calculate for me emotionally as well Hmm, and that's not maybe that's just me But it does it's definitely made it tougher for me over the years Because I would have a date set up with a nice girl and next you know I'm walking through the house and I start thinking about You know a little bit of pussy or something and then some tits or something I'll even see a fucking I'll see a pregnant puppy and see those nipples or something next you know you're on the internet jerking off And then you wait hold on or like I'm saying anything Anything could lead a man to jack off a pregnant puppy could make you think about human nipples Is that we're saying you're not getting excited about the puppy no no I don't do anything I don't I don't believe in bestiality or anything like that, but I think if you you don't believe it exists They caught a dude near me one time with a lamb No, which almost sounds beautiful when you just say it yeah the lines lay with the lambs yeah, but I don't think When you say near you you mean in Hollywood No, no you mean when you're a kid in Louisiana, okay? They got a lot of people out there on those fucking natural born mushrooms oh I never told you the end of that oh sorry so no I took that bag of mushrooms to that party right and a bunch of People ate him who'd never had him before oh, and then we played a game of hide-and-go-seek right I was like Yeah hide another dimension. I was like I'll count you guys go hide right no and I never went to fucking look for That was the end of that bro, I've never seen one dude this boy Timothy I've never seen that dude again People get lost in the woods man, maybe they got eaten. Oh yeah, maybe they ended up in another realm You know could have like stranger things yeah, I see that show. Oh yeah the first season I saw it phenomenal show, but I don't like that pornography And I think it's I think it should be shut down man for real Yeah, cuz I think it's killing like a lot of I think it's I think it's harming a lot of men And I really really do do you think that booze should be shut down? Should we make booze illegal cuz that's killing a lot of men too no But I think eventually we'll kind of evolve out of booze is it's not like something that It's not the hip drug that it once was Yeah, but it's still like a social lubricant. That's a good point You know makes people feel more comfortable talking to each other loosens inhibitions It's fun like what is that ancient quote about wine? You know tongue becoming more lively people love wine and women love wine too, especially divorcees if you see them Yeah, yeah like one I hate to live with these rich people for a while, and they always have one boy Why did divorcees like wine? I don't know but when when one of her friends would get divorced they'd come over and just drink wine And they'd lay on the couch one of them tried to hook up on the trampoline or stood And I remember the dad used to masturbate at night over there this man speaking of pornography The dad used to masturbate at night, and I would sneak out there in the kitchen this back when the family you had like a family Computer you know it was in one part of the house right and I try to sneak to the refrigerator and get some chips or something Or get something Olives or something and he would uh be over there by himself just in the fucking bone zone Oh, just well you can't even hear you're so intent on the screen You can't even fucking hear well you could have your grandparents on each side of your head you caught him Oh, I'd see him. I wouldn't watch for long, but I was watching through the window No, I'd sneak out to the kitchen because the computer was kind of in the kitchen They had a nice house right and the computer. I'd have to elbow crawl over to the fridge And bro I would have to open the fridge a little reach in with my hand and press that light thing so the light wouldn't come on then open the door the rest of the way and fish for a snack and He's over there just in the glow of that screen, bro And that's back when the monitors were big you know and he's just over there just fucking looking for the devil And he ended up getting divorced and it was I think a lot of it was because of that Well, what was his wife like she a wonderful sweet woman? Oh, is she annoying I think she might have been a little bit Annoying business centric sometimes business centric a little too much Just yeah, maybe just too business centric. What does that mean? Just to to Yes, you might have been a little too demanding But then if he's up for an hour and a half each night out there you know Looking at it all right and he comes back to the bedroom, then you don't feel as desirable I don't know is what came first the chicken of the egg For what would for them was she annoying first and he started beating off or was he had it in a seat beat? I think he had a bit of it in him. Yeah He had that devil in a video. I could see it in his eyes He was talking me just hoping I'd go to sleep He would drug me but not that sex me he would drug me so that he could freely masturbate He leave his socks on he wouldn't even take his pants off. He's a man. He was an animal The worst is if you're jerking off with a hat on bro. You're going to hell That's the most French thing you can do jack off limbs draw Kentucky Derby has Yeah, what's the worst hat to jack off the worst happy job you have to balance yourself Chimney sweep the Best one of those Chinese hats broke is if you squat down low enough to the ground you can almost hide under it Those things would be dope, bro the most confusing would be like one of them Daniel Boone raccoon Tail in your I think you pushed it you blow it tails in the way Oh Right about the finish you distract by the tail Choke dusty coon fur And it's harder to jacket when you're breathing out real fast, right? Yeah, it's more than it's more of a intake sport. Yeah But I don't like it man you think it's healthy for people because I feel like you kind of like you know you Lead a lot of men and like their aspirations to You know control their beings and stuff and these just some of my weird interpretations But you know to try and be on top of themselves in some ways and you know stay focused on on on Controlling themselves in positive ways You know like staying fit and expanding their minds and thinking you know and not falling into easy traps having discipline That's what I'm trying to say. Yes, I think that It's definitely important to have discipline But I think that if you're a person like say if you're not in a relationship You're not getting any sex and you're horny and it's confusing and it's distracting It becomes a big distraction like if you're if you're horny and you're busy And you don't have anybody you're dating you don't want to hook up with someone you don't like just so you could have sex with them We've all been there before right yeah Have you ever had girls that you were friends with or you dated and the only reason why you dated them for the sex and they Did annoy the shit out of you and you couldn't wait to get the fuck away from them. Yeah, Tiffany's this girl I'm thinking about tell me about Tiffany She had kind of side like too much. I want to say sideburns, but she had a lot of You know some girls don't know how to ride them Oh, they were a little they went down to the cheek or get confusing did an extra quarter inch on a female sideburn is Way too much. It is that extra quarter. It's a lot. Yeah. Yeah It makes you think about and if she cuts it you're like, well if you let it go what would happen? Yeah So she's really in that hit or miss range on that side hair. And so Yeah, she had some family issues. But yeah, that's what I was thinking about what you're saying that I interrupted you know I've got guys have that before Most likely and some guys mind up marrying those girls because they don't want to be alone like sex for a lot of people is a requirement like a physical Biological requirement like your body is constantly producing sperm You need sex if you spend time not having sex you spend a month two months three months you get fucking desperate Yeah, and a lot of guys wind up just shacking up with some gal Just because they know they could have sex with her and meanwhile they don't even like each other and they hate each other And it wants to be a terrible dysfunctional relationship, but she's basically your drug dealer that drug is pussy Wow She's dealing out that pussy for you and you just got to have this weird creepy dysfunctional relationship with her One thing that pornography does it's good and I'm not saying all pornography, but just regular pornography like two guys you know like that are Just living their lives Where like in like Chicago? I'm anywhere, but I'm saying like I'm giving you two separate scenarios Okay, two guys are delivering their lives one guy says I can't take this anymore I got to get a girl You know I got to get any girl And he winds up with this girl that turns out to be a nightmare and she's a disaster the devil It just doesn't work out. He's just doing it because he needs sex and the other guy goes says you know what? I'm just gonna watch the little porn and I'll beat off. I'll just look at that girl those big tastes Yeah, I'm like whoa I got it out of my system now I can concentrate on my life my career and if I meet somebody I won't be so needy I won't have this like massive requirement to be sexually stimulated and touched yeah, I'll be Free of that monkey on my back, and I can just get to know them Always I just have a bit my act. It's a good point I used to have a bit my act about like if you have any critical decisions in your life This is my advice jerk off first then think about it because there's been men I've had this happen in my life where I was about to go on a date with a girl hmm And I jerked off instead and I was like what am I thinking? I don't want to go on a date with her She's annoying. I don't like anything about her I don't I can't talk to her about anything like the only reason why I'm doing this because she's got a big ass That's the only reason yeah, but if you jerk off first you don't you don't go through all that Yeah, I did for me Yeah, I guess for me it became addictive where I would just do that every time and then I was just at home for five Years and didn't you know go do any dates or anything definitely not good right and so that's yeah I guess that's the difference if you get addicted to it, and you find that it's just a repeat pattern So you're not spending time with people at all. Yeah, I don't think it's without value I don't think that looking at naked people having sex which is arousing and that feels good I don't think that's without value, but I think there's definitely a danger in like immediate access to pornography and today Today Today, it's the most immediate access because you get it on your phone Oh, you can get it Yeah, you pull up your laptop open it up type in some words you porn calm blah blah and next thing You know you're beating off. It's so easy. This has never been the case before I mean, it's it's unlike any other time period in human history and When you have instant access to things you can abuse it just like people abuse food if you have a cabinet That is just filled with candy and chips Chocolate bars or soda in the refrigerator if you're just one of those people that can't help themselves You don't have any discipline you will just eat all that shit all day long and get fat And that is just as much of an addiction as someone who has access to porn all the time It just beats off all the time or someone who has access to booze and just wants to get fucked up every day All those things are okay though in moderation if you have discipline right like there's nothing wrong with Having a bag of M&Ms every now and then for a fucking like I feel like having some M&Ms who gives a shit I work out all time. I mean eat my vegetable peanut M&Ms. This is my favorite. They're good, huh? And you kind of trick yourself. I'm getting a little protein. Yeah, they put that trick in the middle and some healthy fat But I get you know, it's a gun I'm saying I just feel like we're at the point for me It seems like where the temptation is too powerful where it's starting to overpower whatever Or for me it was whatever my natural abilities to defend against it work. Well, you're sober, right? Yeah, and how long you been sober almost two years? And so before you were sober you weren't sober right and you had a little bit of a problem Yeah, which is why he became sober. Yeah, so you might have just natural inclinations towards addiction Yeah, I definitely think are real and I think they those natural inclinations Exist a lot of times in guys like you and me because we're comedians and comedians are impulsive people who are just rule-breakers We're rule-breakers for sure Yeah, I guess yeah, I guess I am a rule breaker. I never thought about that Yeah, I don't like a if there's a rule of my first thing is to think of a way to Think around it or something or to do something. Of course. It's why you're funny. Yeah, it's one of the reasons It's one of them. It's one of the reasons why you're funny, you know, like, you know, you were raised by people and you didn't necessarily want to listen to him and you know You saw a bunch of other people in the neighborhood that were adults like these fucking idiots. Tell me what to do. Yeah And next thing you know You're making fun of them. Next thing, you know, everybody's laughing next thing, you know, you're a comedian Yeah, that's those wheels have been put into motion. Yeah, you know and the problem with that is That also leads itself to you want to do coke or you want to you know, do all kinds of crazy shit and oh Yeah, porn's forbidden to porn is porn is one of the weirder ones because it's this multi-billion dollar thing, right? where there is Some ungodly percentage of the internet is dedicated to porn. Yeah, it's the number one moneymaker on there But isn't it like what was the number the amount of bandwidth Jamie? Didn't we figure this out once it's like 30 something percent of all the internet bandwidth is porn Let's say you guess people won't stop jerking off. They're not gonna stop I wonder how many of them are women watching it wonder if we had one day where nobody jerked off if the earth would feel Different would feel lighter Everybody be more relaxed. No if one day where nobody jerked off But if no one was thinking about it at all, everybody would just calm down a little Cuz I feel like it's so prevalent now you can hear people coming in the distance. I feel like now. Yeah That's the worst row but that's a whole fashion jerking off when you used to let your balls hit your hand That's a straight up. That's a Confederate soldier jerking off. That's the whole The new thing is just shaft only nobody's fucking with their balls anymore, you know do when I was growing up We couldn't even get poor we had to get this dude Nick on Friday would draw us a picture of some pussy You know for the weekend $4 to this dude Nick $4 for drawings, bro. You'd pay eight And he had a nice fucking thing, bro You would fold that thing up or you could feel it heating in your butt pocket the whole way on the bus Sometimes you'd even thought good the pictures of that. Oh, he was so jerk off this guy's drawing Oh, everybody would he must have made probably $60 on a Friday and this was in 1995, you know That was $60 like 160 today. Oh, yeah, think about that. Yeah, I'm thinking about it Yeah, dude, and we come back on Monday and people would have like these fucking busted ass looking all sketches rain on them People's like oh this one got rain on it like bro They had that rain is your fucking kids in it