Joe Rogan on Paulie Malignaggi vs. Artem Lobov, Bareknuckle Boxing

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Vinny Shoreman

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Vinny Shoreman is a mind coach and fight commentator.

Liam Harrison

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Liam Harrison is an 8 time kickboxing and Muay Thai world champion, including holding the W.M.C. belt.

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What did you think when they had that bare-neckle boxing event in Pauli Malinagy and fought Artem Levin? I'll say Artem Loboff. Yeah, I'll say Artem Loboff. Sorry. That's one of the more interesting cases because you've got a guy in Pauli Malinagy who's a legitimate world champion and a world-class boxer, you know, a few years past his prime and hasn't really been fighting. But then you see him fight a guy like Artem Loboff who's used to fighting with MMA glows and there's not much of a difference fighting bare-knuckle and Loboff actually winds up beating him in a decision which nobody fucking talks about. Yeah, and Pauli's not a puncher anyway, is he? So to go into that against a guy that's naturally bigger as well. But you would have still thought that he'd known enough. I still thought he'd have known enough. You know, like a guy like Roy Jones Jr., you're not out boxing him. You know what I'm saying? Like if some, it's just like a world-class boxer you would imagine even if he's barely got no tricks just to get him to... He's still gonna fuck you up. He's just gonna make the adjustments. I wonder how he trained for it. God knows. No idea. You know what I mean? Did he box with bare-knuckles? Well he broke his hand in second round as well, then he straight away... And he broke it bad because a few weeks ago when he... because he's a pundit for Sky TV and the boxing and he had his hand still in plaster or whatever it was then so it must have been bad. And he's very left-handed as well, isn't he? I think he had a bad right hand. They never chucked right hands really anyway. That he was always left-handed anyway, wasn't he? It wasn't a lot of... Yeah, there wasn't a lot of like combinations exchanged but that's the case with most of those bare-knuckle fights. It's a totally different thing. Yeah, he's getting big in England now as well, like the BKB thing. They're having big shows filling out big arenas if I can get me down in London or two and stuff now. One of my friends fought on it recently. It's like getting a really big nail for itself. Well people like the least rules... Violence. Yeah, the least rules possible. They like it. They like leth way or anything along those lines. Head butts with leth way. I mean they take it to another level, right? Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. When the guy come over to England, did some seminars and that with... And he was headbutting pads and all. David LeDoux? Probably, yeah. Yeah, he's... I'm coming on the podcast soon. I was a big proponent of no gloves with MMA. I was like, well if you don't have gloves on your shins and your knees and your elbows, why the fuck do you have them on your knuckles? Yeah. I changed my mind. I think it's a cut. Yeah, that's the two worst things. I got cut four times on one eye and my hands after the fight. Because we had like a bit of a war and I just started swinging all over placing around, free trying to KO him. I wasn't really picking my shots properly like I should have been. I've got bad problems with this one. I've got a metal plate with this one. The day after I flew back to England, I went to the gym, I put the gloves on just to try and hit the pads and I couldn't even make a fist properly for about a week and a half, two weeks. Just swelling? Yeah, it felt like all my wrists, like tendons and stuff around here. I couldn't squeeze a fist properly. We're awful. That was my own stupid fault. Like when I was chasing the fight, I wasn't picking my shots properly. I was just swinging around, hitting top of his head and trying to KO him. It was fucking good though. Yeah, it was fucking great. Well, I loved it when I was in there doing it. It was just there. But yeah, it is exciting. One mistake, it's going to change the fight and I mean, which is, I've learned that now as well. So. Yeah.