Joe Rogan on MMA Striking vs Boxing

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Miriam Nakamoto

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Miriam Nakamoto is a World Champion Muay Thai and MMA fighter.

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Yeah, but why can't they spitting backfist in boxing? I don't know. Should be able to. They're purists. They are very purists. Yeah. But I see where they're coming from in a certain way. Like when boxers talk shit about MMA and striking in MMA, I see where they're coming from. They're wrong because your shit won't work. Come try that shit. Yeah. You're gonna get taken down stupid. Like this is the whole reason why they do it a different way. But I actually do believe that a boxer with incredible footwork and a jab, a great jab could survive and win in an MMA fight. As long as he doesn't fight a long guy with good kicks like a Jon Jones. Jon Jones just kicked the shit out of you from a distance. Yeah. And you're not even gonna get close to him. And then by the time you've eaten all those leg kicks, you're not moving so good. Yeah, that's fair. I'm gonna grab ahold of you and smash your face in. I agree. Yeah. I think footwork is the key. Do you remember when Vince Foster, when he was not quite world class anymore, he'd lost the title. See, this is what worries me because I don't remember shit. You don't remember shit? Way more of a fan than I am. Well he fought Masato. I bet when Masato was the king of K1 over in Japan. Masato, the sexiest Japanese man I've ever seen. Pretty sexy. Yeah, he's super sexy. But is he sexier than sexyama? I don't know who sexyama is. What? Full of sexyama. You don't know who sexyama is? Sexyama fought in the UFC several times. Fought in pride. Oh did he? Yeah. I don't know who that is. That's a great name though. Gorgeous, gorgeous man. I feel like that should be a super sushi roll. There he is. There's sexyama. Oh no, Masato's way better looking. Yeah, you say that. You're not in sexyama's presence. Look at that. I like the way he glows. Yeah, look at him. Man, it's beautiful. Look at those pecs. Yeah, he's got that cross dangling super low. What's going on with that? So you look. That cross, it's almost like a belly button ring or some shit. That's a deal breaker, right? A dude with a belly button ring? How about that? A guy, a gorgeous guy with a belly button ring. That means he's freaky. Is that what it means? Or too vain. Or gay as fuck. More likely. That's something men just never rock. I think it means he's freaky or he takes too many selfies. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Is that something any man has ever bravely tried to rock? I know guys do nipple rings. Like a real freaky dude will do nipple rings. I think I've seen it once. You've seen a belly button ring on a male? So one time I saw a pierced. Who's that? Masato. Masato. Oh, there he is. Beautiful. I thought you were showing me a belly button ring. There's better pictures of him. There's better. He's really good looking. Masato's very handsome. Yeah. And still is. Yeah. And still is very active and all sorts of promotions and stuff. Did you see when he fought? No, when he was going to fight Petrosian and Petrosian was killing Sauer. What happened? It was going to be his like goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. And so he's watching Petrosian. I think it was Sauer, destroy Andy Sauer. And he's just like, fuck. He's like. Pull up Masato versus Vince Phillips. Because what was interesting about this, it was like, do you remember when Shannon the Cannon decided to fight in K1 and he fought Tom Erickson in a kickboxing match? No? I don't remember. But that was a similar thing. But Tom Erickson was a wrestler who was an MMA fighter. And Shannon Briggs ate a couple of leg kicks and was talking about it on the podcast. That he was trying to play it off. It was like, God damn, that shit hurt. But he wound up KOing Tom Erickson. But Tom Erickson at the time was not nearly the kind of striker that Vince Phillips was when Vince Phillips fought Masato. Vince Phillips had beaten world class fighters. I think, who did he beat? He beat some fucking high level world class boxers. And then, you know, he got like 36, 37, 38, and then took this fight. Was he 37 at the time? I don't know. So he fought Vince Phillips, but it was so weird seeing Vince Phillips walk out there barefoot. I mean, they shouldn't let him wear boxing shoes. At least because he's not thrown any kicks. Yeah. And Masato just gave me some. Look at the outfit. Beautiful man. Perfect bone structure. Yeah. He's ridiculous. Perfect hair too. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And Vince Phillips is like, what the fuck did I sign up for? Yeah, that feeling that they have when they're about to get leg kicked. So right away, he opens up inside and just moves away from the punches, sets, goes up high, goes up high, a bunch of times kicking into the arms and then goes across the leg. See, that's a weird one, right? They across the thigh, nut shot. I never throw that one. But this was, this is at the time, like one of the first times that a real world class boxer had attempted a kickboxing fight. And that's, I love that he did this. Franz Botha did that too. Do you remember Franz Botha? He was a heavyweight contender in boxing. How much time a day do you dedicate to watching fights? If you talk to my wife and ask her, which she told me about 10 minutes ago, I will not remember what the fuck she said. There's a lot of shit that I don't remember, but I have like storage units in my brain and stuff like, oh, that's interesting. What happened there? This happened. Oh, why did that happen? Why did this go wrong? Okay. Pull up a Georgia, a Patrogian versus Andy Sauer. S-A-U-E-R. Is it? No. How's it? Oh, here's Franz Botha. S-O-U. Yeah. S-O-U. So Franz Botha, this is Franz Botha fat as fuck too. He had like, he had hit the wall. He was the white buffalo. He's a South African heavyweight. But he actually learned how to kick a little bit. And he was not just boxing guys, but his hands were just way better than most boxers, or most kick boxers rather. Because he was at one point in time a real heavyweight contender. This is not a good example of this. This is 2015? Holy shit, dude. This is 2000. This guy was a fucking contender in the 90s. He's already hurt. Yeah, this is. He should have thrown a knee.