Joe Rogan on Mackenzie Dern Missing Weight & Her Accent

Yeah, it was the last fight out there is a Sitting in that hot tub and then because I didn't have the sauna hooked up I just want to go in the hot tub and and then I laid on like the partition and I had like one leg dangling In the cold pool and one leg dangling in the water was really good-looking. I'm sure Starving and dying and give no fucks anymore. It's just like I'm laying there like that Mackenzie Dern was laying over there looking a little worse than me, but it's like What did you think would she miss weight by seven pounds that shit's kind of crazy, isn't it? It's crazy because she like I was literally sitting in the locker room with her like we're giggling at UFC 222 like because we're both like curvy right and we're sitting in the locker room laughing about how much that shit weighs You know and it's like you what can you do about that? Even if you could you really want to like I mean I don't hate it. You know but sitting in there and like Like laughing about it, and that was what what was the date of that March 3rd and then to Come that much over like she got her fight right away announced right away you know that she was fighting me was a name 19 or something and It's just like that like when you have that date in mind. I mean granted. It's it's not me. It's her It's I don't have her body. I don't have her problems. I don't have her life I don't it's you know not my not doesn't mean anything to me But to know you have a fight And it's signed up, and it's ready like at that point. It's maintenance Yeah, you know it's maintenance like that that's not even doing anything different. It's just maintenance, but like These weight cuts are harder and harder on us as we get older. I don't know what her body's doing I don't know yeah, she's I think she's 25 Yeah, she's young and I don't know I don't know what that to make 115 pounds asks of her And and I don't know if she's on her period or not I don't know if that makes a difference to her with me I always I always get mine the day of weigh-ins I have other I have like three other girls four other girls that I know that it's the exact same thing like the morning of Made way about to go downstairs, and there's that fucker looking at you right there She's like there's there's why I couldn't lose the last two pounds I would like to talk to John Crouch about what happened because he asked her to leave the lab Oh, that was where she was out Yeah, did she ever say why she didn't say why he didn't say why either They're both playing it professional Huh, I don't know what happened, but she was there a long time too though Wasn't she well like because when I went to go train down there. She she was already she was there one of the days Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure I'm not sure but I know her dad. He's doesn't he teach in Arizona megaton I think so yeah Heard you chits it was fucking nasty though, isn't it so gnarly whoo yeah, she's good. We competed against each other Yeah, yeah, I was beating her ass. Well. Yeah, well it is rough Is rough because I I it was worlds. We were both purple belts. I think it was open division so I was like I was heavier than her by the next weight class and I went to take her down a double-leg dural big and then like where we landed So if this is like the square we landed like right here, and so they called it out And so they reset us in the middle so no points Because she's Mackenzie Dern because I'm not So I would they start us again I'm like okay noted I can't don't go near that line so I go and I shoot another double pick up go take her down again same thing But like I it's out of bounds again because it's too close because my doubles like a tackle you know right and then so we go back in the middle and We shake hands and we go so this time I go shoot I pick her up They look at the ref like like you're good. Is this good put it down here. Yeah, so put her down go to pass her guard and I passed and then I Think shit I sat back for a straight ankle lock and they're like And they disqualified me what and they're like you can't have an ankle like you can't do that I was like can't do what and they're like you can't do that and it's in the rule books I'm like okay if I'm gonna look in the real rule books. What am I looking up? What can't I do? Like you can't you can't do that. I need to go you're disqualified I don't like tell me what I did and they said that I reaped the knee But I like I didn't like I don't I really don't think I did you know so You think they were just? Juking the system to try to get her to win cuz she's Brazilian. I don't know. I don't know Yeah, and I mean they they they said and the thing is like I love IBJJ of tournaments and I want to compete in them for the rest of my life like I You know so but but yeah, there is there is some themes that go on there Like there's definitely birth rights that get you places that like rights that I would really like to have But at the same time really no I don't want to have been born into I want to make the statement of like happy birthright like I got this You know I made it to some pretty badass tournaments and and you know just like Fighting the way I fight and trying not to give a shit about all of that and like I continued to do that I want to do the same you know but You know that that was that was a rough one for me like I was excited about that term I trained hard for that tournament, and I think we were each other's like I Don't remember what match into the tournament it was what to be disqualified And it was like but I still what do they call specifically reaping the knee don't you have to go against the joint? I don't know I don't know like I wish I could draw you a picture show you a finger But we were just trying to like come up with an excuse well be I mean the first two takedowns like We weren't okay. Maybe the first one. Maybe the first one. We were on the line all fine The second one like we hit the ground and then we skidded a little so but we were in You know and then the third one. I'm being a dick. You know and I'm just like yeah Yeah, you're good You know and so they're like they gave me the points and then I pass and they give me the points And then I sit back for that and now I'm disqualified And it was like It is and I like her you know what I mean like I like her dad was at my gym Teaching a seminar at my gym in Colorado like months earlier And so when the match is over and we go and we're like standing next to them. They're like Did you see the video that somebody made on Instagram of her after one day in Liverpool no Do you know people make fun of her accent that it's not real oh Brazilian yeah, someone just told me that recently yeah, she apparently I don't know I mean people Accidents are weird to begin with like why do people talk the way they talk in the first place because they sound like the people around No, it's geographical. Yeah, I mean it's it's weird But there's a video that somebody made of Mackenzie Dern after one day in Liverpool, and it's basically her talking, but Darren Till's voice instead I'm not playing it don't play it JB. Don't even pull it up. I will not do that to her Yeah But it's pretty funny. Yeah, cuz I was super confused when I interviewed her when she won in the UFC They wanted a translator, and I was like What are you talking about like she speaks perfect English like this is really bizarre so George Grigel came in with me and He's like just in case she gets messed up anymore. It's like I didn't even question. I was like okay. I was confused I'm like but wait a minute. I know she speaks perfect English like this is ridiculous raised in Arizona, right? Yeah, but she fucking speaks perfect English, so I don't know if they were selling it You know I don't know whose idea it was I don't know I don't know I don't get it, but the fucking internet got it Crazy everybody was like what in the fuck is happening. I didn't question it. I'm like look. I'm just here to interview her I just want her. I mean she wants to speak in Portuguese once speak in English I don't give a fuck, but I was like why do you need a translator like that's that's insane damn I don't know all that either. You know she definitely speaks getting English really well though does it is there a benefit to? Not zillion well. Yeah, I mean obviously that's a huge demographic in this sport huge like primarily yeah the biggest other than Yeah, but I'm curious if there's like a benefit or marketing like is there there's there's something to that That would make that more well Brazilians have immense national pride Yeah, you know and her being a Brazilian and the daughter of a Brazilian jiu-jitsu legend And you know and speaking perfect Portuguese and English and I'm just I guess maybe that's the idea behind it I don't know She's killing it though like technically and with her style and I mean like Everything that she brings to the table is is already good. You know it's like don't fuck that up Don't fact that would it some yeah Yeah, I don't know you know it sometimes when I get around people like I feel bad because like I try to be like really empathetic and when I'm around like foreigners and Like I will totally slow down my speaking so they will get it to the point where sometimes I think I look condescending You know where I'm like I just want this conversation who is easy as possible for you because yeah I'm already awkward and like let me help you out. You know that's a different thing But it's like you never when Madonna had a fake English accent and everybody's like pitch You're from Brooklyn or wherever the fuck you're from not from England. Yeah, you can't do that Well yeah, I mean depending who she's around I guess I don't know fuck That's the thing like if you're around people that have that accent you'll you will pick it up Yeah, like when I was a kid I definitely had a Boston accent, but I heard myself talk on TV once when I was like 19 it was a Boston accent No, I gotta get rid of that like how did I pick that up so quick? Yeah, and my family's all Minnesota rural you know and so when I go home I get that and it'll stick around for a few weeks. Yeah, especially if you drink, right? I'm real tired. Yeah, well you have you around all those people. It's like comforting Accents are fucking strange. You know they're they really are strange that they're like specific to regions I mean it just shows you how pliable people are you know Southern accents?