Joe Rogan on Louis CK Coming Back

Yeah, because there are awful men out there But there's also men they're nice and they're gonna be nice to you There's also some awful women out there who do have other agendas when they come out with these me to go names There's a lot of that what you're seeing. I mean, we're seeing these cases now, you know We're seeing these cases get exposed for what they are, you know, and it's it it the problem is that it Cast doubt on legitimate cases. What is going on my throat? Something about these goddamn caveman coffees really Early in the morning. Yeah, we think I'm good though. Sometimes I know you think you have to Did you think? If you're in Louis C. K's shoes, do you think he came back to sin? I don't think it's that he came back too soon What I honestly think is he should say something More than what he already said Not just go up like it's all good like oh, yeah, there's not just I mean he said he put out a release a statement These stories are true. They happen a long time ago, right? They happen like more than a decade ago. I think He should and I think it might be even better to release a video rather than Then a written statement because a written statement the problem is like it's impersonal. It's personal fake Yeah, well, it's not even not only that it's not as impactful I want to But what is he gonna say? It's like I can't fix it Maybe if he donated a certain amount of money to certain causes or you know Spent you know time in therapy or talked about it and it's and maybe expressed himself and said that what was you know What was going on through Through through in his mind during that time when he did that thing and why it was wrong Yeah, and how he's changed his his way and how bad he feels about it how he's apologized He has daughters I think I think you get all that done by just doing a video with his I think it would go so much Further form if he didn't have a big production now, right? He's a creative dude Obviously a great comedian if you just went off the top of his head straight into the camera and post on Instagram Was like a man I've paid a price I've learned I have daughters is a horrible thing that I did I mean even stay away from I've paid a price because people Don't really want to hear that shit. Like what is the price? But they don't think he has well They do they're crazy. Well, a lot of millions of dollars. They don't realize that they think always fine You should get back on the road and torn. He's gonna be a millionaire Well, he's got a ton of ton of money off his shows FX deal His daughters have this image of him being this guy jerks off in front of women that's never gonna go away No, so that's that's a pretty heavy stamp. Yeah, which is deserved Maybe not forever but but it's it's a complicated issue, you know, it's complicated like what was his psychology What was going on in his mind that allowed him to do that? Apparently just started going up again. He just went up again. So yeah, he just went he went up And I guess the the owner of the club was like dude, I didn't know I was asleep They went up, you know, it's the crowd's discretion if they want to stay or leave but well the first time the the owner was Upset and the second time they said something along the lines of if anyone has an issue with someone stops in aka Louie I mean, it's only Louie. Yeah, maybe Aziz. I guess really? Yeah, apparently some people got upset about Aziz too still but these yeah, dude, look people just like targets They like targets so they like negativity. They like negativity, but they also like targets When they find someone who's a viable target someone who's done something they can criticize and they go you Hope you're still alive You know They there's people that just want to decide that someone's a horrible person and it and they don't have this really well thought out You know comprehensive view of the situation they just attack, you know There's a lot of those people out there man, and they think that they're justified particularly if that person is famous and they're not They think it's fair game. Yeah Public form so people were definitely upset at Aziz but much much more upset about Louie Oh hundred percent Will you stop and think about what Louie actually did? Creepy? Yes asked women if he could jerk off in front of them. They said yes, he did it if they said no He didn't I mean, it's it's fucking look if you're working with a guy like that He's like can I jerk off in front of you like Jesus Christ? Imagine what the fuck it would be shitty work environment for sure terrible and he is not handsome Louie I love you brutal to look you know I'm saying he's harsh on the eyes Yeah, it's not like Brad Pitts asking to jack off in front of you, right? Not that it's ever right but it do less on the it's on the feelings of Brad Pitts yanking in front of you I mean all of it all of its no bueno. It's a whole mess Yeah, I mean he obviously had some sort of a weird kink, you know I wonder what that is price started in childhood. Maybe got caught and then got off on it, right? Or he just never got chicks and now he has this power because such a he didn't have the power when he started doing it Though man when he started doing it wasn't really famous. He was respected, but he was like a man. No Which is it's um, you know, it's it's awful but it's It's just the thing that he's stuck with now so he's got to figure out how To ingratiate himself. He's got to figure out how to to reemerge And I think you can do it. I think you can do it. You can do it. Look he's not an awful person I just think he did some stupid things that are really gross and weird But if he just I mean he and he has owned up to it I think he just you know Make some sort of a sincere apology and then does something like what could you do? To I mean, what do you help female comics? Maybe do I do I've done that he's trying to help But a lot of people accused him of trying to help them to try to cover up his tracks Fuck man. You gotta yes do something He gets to go back to work. Yeah, I mean it's been a year now, right? It's a year next month. I Think to expect him to just never work again seems ridiculous and to not forgive him there has to be a path To redemption for anyone who's done anything other than actual rape or murder, right? Like for Bill Cosby, I'm very happy. He's locked up. I think what he did is awful Can you imagine being one of those girls that turned to him as a mentor and you wake up and you know? You're you've been violated while you're out cold and you're drugged and you're confused and Bill Cosby did it to you And who the fuck is gonna believe that his image is that's the thing about Louie, right? Look Louie's image was like he's a pervert. He's a weirdo He's always talking about jerking off like when you found out Louie CK asked girls if he could jerk off in front of him And did it's like not the most surprising. No, but with Bill Cosby It's here's a guy who is and I'm not comparing the the axe at all But I'm just saying as far as like famous people have done something that you know became a scandal Would build with Bill Cosby he was this moral guy He was this like ethics guy and he wore sweaters America's dad He was America's dad and to find out that that guy was drugging and raping women He's in fucking jail right now, which is crazy right? He's gonna die. I give it what he's over under a week You think that's the way it goes with those old dudes really? Yeah, he's 81 his eyes are so crazy He can't see I think the ones good, but the ones all over the goddamn place Which one is the one I thought the right one was oh It's I think it's this one, but it is fucking yeah, it's looking the wrong It's going on its own way. Yeah, that's what you get man. It's yeah. I'm gonna die any day now I think I think oh a path to redemption or a path to retribution would be Would be good a path to forgiveness. That's that's I think that's important for all All human beings who've made mistakes. I think it's important cast people out if they've made mistakes agree I still think it's important to with all this stuff is like Louis C. K got lumped in with the big dogs like Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein then there's a CK and man There was definitely different levels to this yes these fucking crush no question How about one that flies under the radar especially here in America, and I was just reading about it How true it is who knows is with Ronaldo who you know in soccer? Ask your boy in in Edwards. I mean there's there's a superstar superstar It would be like it basically like Conor McGregor again caught doing something for in our world This is a new one. Yeah, this this girl You know he said she said he kept telling them no, and then he anally raped her and then paid her 375 thousand dollars to keep quiet now. She come back out But who knows human beings We capable of such amazing things and such fucking awful things I have to look that up Jamie I might have been trained now. I think you're right about that my brother. That's only about he's usually on it That's what I just read in New York Post. Yeah, we should probably go back to fights right Renato likes that booty Yeah, we should go back to fight. I don't know