Joe Rogan on “Fit Shaming” and Dad Bods

Unrealistic body types, I was going to say. Like this is a thing that gets brought up all the time. They've even had these promos and these advertisements taken down, particularly in the UK. There was a big story about that because they were promoting unrealistic body types. Okay. One of those guys tried to do that too. One of those Vox guys was trying to... Is this a body positive? No, it's not. Oh. Was trying to say, don't follow these gay... Who's a gay guy, and he's saying, don't follow these gay Instagram thirst pages because they're promoting an unrealistic body type. And the fucking gay guy's just attacked him. The point where he had to shut his fucking Instagram down for a while. Because gay guys don't play with that shit. No! They don't... Like that unrealistic body type, you could pull it off on some women. Yeah, it's unrealistic while they're eating cake. Yeah. But it's not unrealistic. That's a real woman. Okay? It's just not your body type. Or it's not typical. Well, look, if you're a fucking person... I'm 5'8". If I look at LeBron James, 7' tall man... Well, that's an unrealistic body type. No, it's realistic. He's playing basketball professionally. He's a real person. He's not a fucking hologram. He's not unrealistic. It's just unachievable for me. That's just what it is. Just know your limits. Right. That's what you got. That's the fucking hand you got. That has nothing to do with realistic or unrealistic. If you see a girl and she's got a tiny waist and a big ass and big tits, she's just got that Jennifer Lopez gene. Fuck! Yeah, that's just her. She got lucky. You didn't get that lucky. That is realistic. Yeah. Now, if they're using that to sell fucking Fanta or Adidas shoes or whatever the fuck it is, so what if you're saying, well, all these girls feel terrible because that's unrealistic? That's life. That is life. Yeah. Again, we come back to... Life is weird. We come back to why are we responsible for everyone's feelings? We're not. We're just going to get off the fucking couch and go do something about it if you don't want to feel sad. Do you know who no one cares about though? Fat dudes. Fat dudes can fuck off. I know. No one cares. No one feels bad about fat dudes. Well, they get away with the whole dad bod thing, which I wrote a whole piece about, where I was like, dad bod isn't... She's a dad bod. You guys with a gut. Like, bird cry shirt, bads, that bod? Dad bod isn't an excuse to be lazy though. I know some guys who will lean really into that. They're like, it's a dad bod. What do you mean? They like it? Yeah, they kind of get away with it. Because it's like, you know, guys get like cute, adorable little dad bod and women get like, fupa. I don't think so though. No girl wants a dad bod, do they? The only reason why a woman wants a dad bod is because they know that the guy has less options, so he's more likely to stick around. Right? If a guy's got a dad bod, it's like, where are you going, bitch? Or he's red. Or he's going to fuck you. There, either one. But I mean, look, I'm sure some women like... Just stare at... ... doe-y guys. They like it. Yeah, yeah. And I think some women like more like girth than me, like a little bit of weight. Football player like the engage. Yeah, yeah. Some girls like big, thick women too. Big fat ones. Everybody's different. Everybody gets... I just think that if you like somebody... That's... And here to your point is that it's fine whatever you like, whatever your type is, if you're into like a big dude, if you're... whatever. But the people who like people who are fit are somehow not being shamed. The only thing that's changed is people's ability to express themselves online through social media. That's the only thing that's changed. And because of that, people are yelling about things that don't... that they can't do. Do you get fit shamed? Oh, I get called a meathead. I guess that's fit shamed. Yeah. Yeah. Guilty charged. Yeah. For fuck off. I don't care. But if you're going to shame me for being in shape, like, congratulations. I don't care. I don't care. It doesn't work. Yeah, yeah. It's like so much shaming you for being successful. Oh, you got me. Sorry. Sorry, I figured out a lot of shit. It's such a weird... this is the weird... the weird world is that it feels like we're raising the... you know, we're... the bar isn't... it's being lowered and lowered and lowered. And so instead of raising our standards and trying to... everybody lift each other up, it's more just like a very small majority that's like, come down. But again, it's a tiny amount of people that are making... But it has... we've been talking about it. It has an outsize influence. Well, it has people reacting to it. They're bending towards it, but I think it's... it's temporary. Do you? Yes! Look, it just... You're optimistic. Yes. You think it's going to like eat its own tail like the aurora aurora. Yeah, that's the way it is doing it. You can never be woke enough. They go out for each other. Yeah, yeah. They turn on each other. This... I don't think it's real. I don't think it's real. Yeah. Look, there's certain things that people always are going to like, and there's certain things that men are going to like, there's certain things that women are going to like. It's just the way it is. I do think it gets sorted pretty quickly like in natural disasters. You know what I always say this? Yes, yes. I'm like, you can call yourself whatever you want. And the other interesting thing is, you know, your computer knows better than you... Whatever you're saying online. Your search engine. Yeah, they've done studies and it's like, it doesn't matter what you're saying online. Your search engine knows what gender you are essentially. Yeah. And I generally tell, like probably with a large accuracy... Oh yeah. You look at my search results, it would be fucking super obvious what I am. But I think that we just live in this really confusing moment in history. So, I guess my fear is that the youth are ingesting all this kind of... It's confusing for them. Yeah, it is. It is, but it's also... Look, as much as I like to make fun of woke culture, the good thing about it is making people more sensitive. I agree. It's making people nicer. Yeah. But not necessarily nicer because some of the people that are woke are using that as an excuse to be a fucking asshole to people. To force compliance and be an asshole. But because of that, because of that, it's again, it's like the tide that's going in and out and it's going to find its healthy level.