Joe Rogan on Female Hunters

And my daughter just isn't demonstrating the same enthusiasm That her older brother does and you and you try to suss out like the nature nurture Question because I feel like I'm doing the same inputs, right? But I'm getting different results And it leads you to wonder um You know, it's a very small sample size But when I talk to other parents like you know parents who are parenting right now young kids I just keep encountering other Dads who are having the same experience. Mmm, and you it really leaves you to wonder Sort of like what sort of like cultural influences are going on there Where it's like the enthusiasm's oftentimes among young girls are not as high as the enthusiasm among boys It's hard to catch girl. I don't know. It's hard to unpack everything. Yeah, that's that's my question is like Age what's how old your kids? Well, the two I'm talking about are eight and five. Yeah, man I don't know how much culture plays a part. I know I really think that it's and It's obviously in my small sample group an eight-year-old and a ten-year-old for the youngest kids the the eight-year-old fucking loves it They're both girls the ten-year-old. She's like whatever, you know If I try to wake her up take her fish and she'd be like leave me alone. Yeah going back to sleep I'm sure there are parents out there who? you know I Haven't met him yet Maybe they're out there where they have like a boy and a girl and the girls and they're fired up and the boys not maybe happy I guarantee it's there's Jamie and I were just talking about this yesterday because I was watching this video of these There's I want to try to put this in a respectful way I Think there in I'm sure you're aware of this There's people that are in the hunting world the outdoor industry that I think are in it Because it's a good avenue to get attention if you're like a hot chick Yeah If you're a hot chick and you know You wear pink and you go out and shoot things you take all these grip and grins with deer and like there's you gonna get A lot of likes. Yeah, because it's like a imagine the the male perspective on it Yeah, it's like here's the woman who has everything exactly and she likes to hunt. Yeah, she's hot and she likes to hunt and There's quite a few of them and it's I was telling Jamie It's a weird world because part of me I don't want to be a sexist I don't want to look at these girls into me I don't I don't look at a guy who hunts and who wants to be a part of the outdoor industry and go oh this guy Is just doing this because he thinks this is his avenue for fame and success I think well, here's a guy who really likes to hunt and he Realizes there's people like Steve Ronella and John Dudley out there and these famous hunters, man I want to be a famous hunter. How do I do it? You know, how do I go? Well, I'm gonna just start taking Instagram pictures and say a lot of the same shit that they say and sort of you know Put myself into the cultural norm. I Don't think like that with girls. You're like you just want to have men like you Not all of them. A lot of them. I think are super legit a lot of them There's unquestionably this added element in that world and it with it Let's be super generous and say it's only 10% of them. Mm-hmm, but that 10% I'm like, hmm I'm not unaware of what you're talking about. I'm sure you're not. No, I notice it. Yeah, it's yeah. I even had like a Yeah, I remember Yeah, it's kind of like a yeah like a like a like like a sex pot kind of yeah huntress scene Yeah, super made up full war paint fake eyelashes hot as fuck skin tight clothes Out there shooting shit taking pictures. Yeah, it's weird And then you go to their Instagram page and it's like there's pictures of that and then there's a lot of pictures with their butt Up in the air where they're doing some strange exercise getting ready for both season. Yeah accentuating their butt like that's weird I don't do those exercises. I would really like to you know, I would really like my to Because I'm gonna continue leaning on my I'm gonna continue leaning on my daughter because I would really like her I'm gonna keep leaning on her until I feel like she's in the at an age or she can legitimately say she doesn't want to Go right because right now if I asked her every day, hey, you want to go to school? She'd be having a real delinquency problem. So you're like, you know, you're really like, yeah You make kids do stuff. I took her duck hunting a couple weekends ago. It was cold morning And we get out there and before it's even legal light She's like felt terrible. She's laying there crying about how cold her feet are if my Boy was doing that I would have a very different attitude about it. Right then when she's crying Her crying cuz she's cold Like made me feel awful right with my boy I've been like Oh But her I'm like, oh man, yeah, she's all cold now Yeah, and then it may it so you really there really is a difference. Yeah, there's that there's a difference there and it's not You know the people that buy hunting license in this country 90% of people by hunting 90% are Males, right, right? So one in ten license holders is a woman But then there's there's more women than men in the you know, slightly more men women than men in the country And there's a ton of ways of explaining it. We talked about earlier with Neanderthals or maybe Neanderthals didn't have these like divided roles But in all the hunter like and hunter-gatherer cultures is very normal To see a division of labor here and to have like that men were out hunting and women were not there's a bunch of Explanations for that like people were tied to being home to care for small children and you know couldn't afford that risk But something they vary there are there some women that go out with the hunting parties You know if it is, you know, the minute you say no someone's gonna point out to some Right variation but in your experience you've done several of these trips to these remote jungles Oh, yeah, but that's just what that's just such a small thing I mean you get a rather than looking at personal experience Just like from kind of exploring the literature and reading about you know Historic accounts and what people found what people do It is very much the norm is very much the norm that hunting was, you know patrilineal descent Activity and all these cultures you go to you like the cult of the hunters like a male sort of cult, but The factors that made it that way Okay, that's sort of the you you have to assume it comes from some kind of practical factor Right the factors that made it that way aren't there anymore and I said the difficult thing to unpack if it winds up being that if I have two boys in one girl if it winds up being that Both boys become avid hunters and fishermen and Somehow my daughter does not I'll probably view it as some bit of a personal failure though I'll never know what really was going on. Like I said, it's hard. It's hard to like unload I wish I could have 100 children like 50 girls and 50 boys and have a bigger sample size