Joe Rogan on Chuck Liddell Being KO'd by Tito Ortiz

He should have thrown a knee. Did you watch the Chocoladel fight? Just the end of it. Yeah. Not good, right? How old is he now? 50. Damn. Yeah. So there's hope for me. Oh, wait, he lost. Well, you've never been knocked out the way he's been knocked out so many times. I don't think I've ever been knocked out. Not in the gym, not ever. Flash. Flash knocked down. That's it. Knocked out. Yeah. I've had concussions and been knocked out from falling in the rain and falling off a second floor landing when I was a kid. But in fighting and never, mm-mm. Chuck's also, I think, there was an issue with his style. Because his style was so aggressive, aggressive, that people could just set, set, set, boom, and counter, like Rashad Evans did with him. And so you're getting his momentum coming forward. And the shot, and he would get flatlined. He doesn't change. No. He doesn't evolve. He had a style that was incredibly effective back in the day. Yeah. I think he became married to that approach, the approach that worked so well on Babalu, so well on Tito in the early fights. He was just a marauder. You could hit him in the face with a fucking crowbar, and he would just spit metal out at you. He didn't give a fuck. He was so bad ass back in the day. He relied on that so much. I remember all the Mohawks. The little kids. They all liked to wear Mohawks back in the day. People were getting Japanese symbols tattooed on their head because of him. Yeah, it's just that style comes at a certain point in time. You just can't do that anymore. I think, I don't know, it's a martial artist. And artists evolve. And they're like, oh, well, let me try this new paint. Oh, let me try this new technique. Let me try this shading. Let me start sculpting. Let me try. And I think with especially MMA, there's so much opportunity to evolve and just add new nuances to you as an artist. I mean, I think that's what I love about it. There certainly is, but one thing that does happen when guys try to add a lot of things, like say, sometimes they'll try to, say, a wrestler will add a bunch of things to his repertoire, but then they stop with their wrestling product. So then their wrestling is not as sharp. And so then when they go up against a really good wrestler, they falter. And then they don't have what brought them to the dance in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's just looking at your opponent what's in front of you and also being honest with yourself. And right now, I'm looking at getting back into fighting. And if I didn't feel the sharpness, I didn't feel the fire, and not just the fire. If I didn't physically feel the sharpness, if I didn't feel the reflexes, I'd have to be honest with myself and say, OK, don't do this. Do you think that you would 100% be capable of being rational and objective about what you can do right now? Yeah. Because I don't fight for participation awards. I'm not like, hey, there's some UFC fighters. They're like, I'm a UFC fighter. Yay, I've made it. That's not really making it. You're just another, say, I'm a world champion. I'm the best in the world. I'm a UFC fighter as a participation medal, basically. Like, level. It shows that you're a very high level fighter. You're a very high level professional fighter. But in your eyes, you as a champion. That is what's important. You want to be the queen. You want to be the top of the hill. We want to be the best of your best self. Yes, your best self. Yeah. Yeah.