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Justin Wren is a professional mixed martial artist, humanitarian aid-worker, and founder of Fight for the Forgotten: a non-profit benefiting the Mbuti Pygmy people of the Congo.
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Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. First of all, congratulations on your Bellator fight, man. You looked outstanding. Thank you. Thanks a lot. It's really like clicking, man. It's really coming together, huh? Yeah, finally the muscle memory is back. And I'm at a new camp that's great for my style. Training with Rafael Lovato Jr., maybe the best American grappler for BJJ. Most accomplished, maybe. He's fantastic. Oh, good. So you're in Oklahoma? Is that where he's at? Yeah, Oklahoma just moved there. And so you moved there to train? Yeah, moved there to train. Interesting. Train alongside him, and that's also where Water 4 is headquartered out of, in Oklahoma City. How fucking convenient. Absolutely. So now I have the best of both worlds, my two passions right there, and together. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. He's really good, man. Rafael Lovato has that pressure style, too, that sallow hibero, smashing style. Very fun to watch that guy. The only guy I've ever felt claustrophobic underneath. Without a doubt, he's just, I can't explain it, he just cannot get away. That smash pass, that pressure pass, he just melts into you, and there's no escape. It's like he's melting, and he's like glue. Yeah, sallow, xanji, the whole, that whole family of that style of jiu-jitsu is so powerful, man. Yeah, I've gotten to meet both of them now, train with sallow, and then xanji was there in our corner. So it was pretty awesome for a Bellator fight. I was kind of bummed out at Rafael Lovato's last fight, because he stopped him with strikes. I was like, god damn it. Yeah, kicked him in the head, 13 seconds. Yeah, it was crazy. It's great to see him succeed and do well, but I wanted to see his jiu-jitsu. Oh yeah, absolutely. I think people will, but he's, man, he's an animal. Honestly, he's one of those guys that is so well-rounded, and you think he's just one-dimensional because of everything he's done in jiu-jitsu, but he grew up kickboxing. Oh, did he really? Yeah, his dad's been a lifelong martial artist, senior. He's an incredible guy, and he's been taking Rafael all around the world since he was a little boy, having him train mixed martial arts, not just jiu-jitsu his whole life. And he's fighting Bellator as well, right? Yeah, that was his first fight, so we fought back to back. He fought right before me, I fought right after him. Oh, that's nice, man. Bellator's making some moves, man. They're doing Mitrion versus Fador, and they're gonna, Lorenz Larkin just signed with them. Roy McDonald signed with them. That's a stable now. They have a legit stable. Especially their 170-pound division, super legit. Oh yeah, Daily MVP. Lima. Lima. Korshkov. That's a serious division, man. And now Fador, very interesting. What did you think about the Fador-Mitrion thing, where they had to pull out, like Mitrion had to pull out because it was kidney stone, and then they're gonna schedule it again, apparently. Mitrion's cleared. Yeah, that's Madison Square Gardens. Yeah, that's a pay-per-view, right? Pay-per-view, first one for Bellator. Pay-per-view's tough, man. It's tough to get people to buy something they've been getting for free. Right. But I think this card, they're stacking it pretty heavily. Chael Sunnen versus Van der La. That's a good fight. That's where Rafael has been going down I forget how to say it, but Curitiba? Curitiba, yeah. Brazil, yeah. Down there and was sparring with Van der La before his fight. Sparring with Van der La is a fight, apparently. Apparently you're fighting. Yes. He sent me a meme of something like, let's train easy. And Van der La is saying, yeah, train easy, but it's that picture of him in Pride or something, or maybe training where he's jumping in the air and he's just coming down with a big hammer fist and gonna land on you with his feet. Yeah. It's like, that's a light day. He's kind of known for that, just being a barbarian 24 seven. But that's why he was so fun to watch. And I think what you said and just asked about what did I think between Fedor and Matt Mitrione when they had to pull out, man, I flashed back right away. Do you remember whenever Stefan Struev had to pull out of his fight with Mitrione backstage? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They were- He was like blacking out or something, right? Yeah, I think he passed out a couple times and he was having that heart problem as well. But Mitrione was back there all gloved up, already taped up, had his gloves on, was hitting mitts. And then there were some of the behind the scenes cameras that caught a moment where I believe it was Dana coming back there telling him the fight was canceled and Mitrione just was cussing up a storm. No way, not at all, no. But then all of a sudden you saw it shift to where all of a sudden he was worried about Stefan and he walked down there, went backstage or to his locker room and then he just hugged him and Stefan was sobbing. And Matt Mitrione was just like, you know, hey, it's all right, bro. I know if you could fight, you would have. And all the other stuff. So I guess he had passed at least one or two kidney stones the fight week, maybe a couple days before weigh-ins. And then the day of the fight, they just started coming back out. I think he had something like 15 or 20 total. So man, I know all the ladies out there, you're a lot tougher than us giving birth, but I hear this is the equivalent for the men is passing a kidney stone. I doubt it. That'd be more like passing a marble through the jiggle. Maybe even a golf ball. Seems like it's not even close. Yeah. It probably hurts. Definitely sucks. Yeah, it does. But that 15 or 20 of them, something like that, they have to be brutal instead of just one or two. Yeah. Yeah.