Joe Rogan - Men's Right Activists Have Some Legitimate Arguments

Well, you're intelligent guy with very reasonable points so you deserve all the credit that you've gotten But you are also honest like you're these are your actual opinions And this is your actual perspective the real problem with someone like an culture or someone like many of these other people that I see Out there that we don't even have to name is that they're hustlers. Yeah, they found an in you know Yes, there's an in for a certain type of conservative person There's an in for a certain type of democratic person. There's an in for a certain I mean, I there's pro women people that don't give a fuck about women. They're bullshit artists You know, they're supposed feminists when they're just narcissist. There's a lot of that out there There's men's rights activists that really only care about Finding this way into a group of people where if you have their support There's just a large conglomeration of them and you can sort of take them in as your fans Do you feel like in it? Do you feel like that died down a little bit the men's rights activist thing? Yeah, yeah, I feel like there were maybe three years ago. It was very big and then I have a bit about it Yeah, you got a lot of shit from them, right? Then they What what shit? You know having them be upset at me I don't give a fuck but my bit was that every men's rights activists ever met I just want to grab and go dude, we got them all Shut the fuck up. We run everything. Well, it's almost everything The whole idea is that not that I don't think men should have rights, but it's just we've got them Yeah, and that my thing in the bit was what if women started paying attention to the things men actually did when they started going Hey, we just realized you guys caused all the war every single war ever And I give you a match of women caused all the war. Yeah, well, we're gonna kill these fucking crazy bitches All they want to do is go to war. This was in your most recent special, right? Yeah, that's great And they were thought out there were some of them that were upset at me But like that's a pretty bulletproof argument like the only men's rights are argument. That's legitimate is divorce laws Sure, I agree with that in when it comes to alimony and when it comes to child support and when it comes to child custody Yeah, they're man. I totally agree with that There are men that get fucked over and I know guys that have gotten fucked over in that regard and you know what? Courts Tendicide towards the mother and even if the mother's deceptive and if the mother is you know They'll say something like he beats the kids or I think he might have done something sexual to the kids Yeah These women have done horrible things like that and they've done that to get more money or they've done that done that to get Custody or they've done that just for spite But this is just this is a matter of the courts being designed to put the situation a system being designed to protect kids And protect the mother who needs to get money to be able to take care of the children because there's a lot of fucking shitty Deadbeat dads now if there were no deadbeat dads if men always paid child support Then this would be far less of an issue Yeah, the issue exists the reason why women can exploit it is because so many men were pieces of shit sure, it created this need for some sort of Some sort of law that set some something that's set to protect children and to protect women with with That get custody Yeah And now it looks like the with the divorce issue and everything the pendulum swung a little too far in the other direction And there's like this default setting which is actually not too good for the guy And I know the guy you're talking about too because I saw that podcast a long time ago I think it was one of the people you work with on news radio or something. That's just one of them That's just one of them. I know many people that have been fucked over by by divorce But you know and look I have a good friend of mine who I've talked about him on the podcast before He has been divorced for 14 years. He has been married to a new woman for 12 years He still pays Alimony not only does he still pay alimony he pays alimony to a tone of more than a hundred thousand dollars a year To a woman that he doesn't have sex with so he can't retire. He cannot retire this woman has a boyfriend She lives in his whole old house my friend's old house. She owns the house. They don't have any children This is the idea that he fucked her so hard. She can't work again like she's not 80 years old man I mean she's now in her 50s. That's almost like indentured servitude It's fucking insane, but you have to give me $100,000 a life. He's giving well It's it's tapered down to like I think it's now like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year But at one point he was paying her a quarter million dollars a year And he's paid her that for 12 fucking or 14 fucking years now 14 years He's been married to a new woman for 12. He has a family He has a family and asked to send money to this lady He doesn't talk to anymore like she can't move on with her life And if he doesn't he gets locked up if he doesn't he goes to jail yeah I mean this is and he's trying to go to court and she fights it and she lives with her boyfriend And when they send people over to check the boyfriend puts his stuff in a fucking new hall drives around the block Waits and then comes back so what if let's say Let's let's say he loses his job, and he can't find another job for whatever reason and he fucked He just owes the money no matter what and there's no like you can't go back in front of a court And they can read you know take it down or whatever no that's good question I mean you'd have to go to court and a judge would have to agree, but he's a successful man That's part of the problem. He's not going to be a loser He's an ambitious guy does really well he works very hard He works 10 12 hours every day, and he has forever and he's good. He's smart He's good at his job and because of this he has to pay this woman that he doesn't fuck anymore forever That's crazy man. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare, but here's the thing. It's like she's not She's not like She's not in a Hospital bed. It's not like she can't work. It's like she's Totally capable of making a living and she now has probably four or five plastic surgeries. She's the person we were talking about earlier I don't know I don't even know me maybe she went she fits the boat route. Maybe she went the opposite I don't know but the idea that my friend has to pay her and every now and then you know we'll Talk about him like you still have to pay her and just go oh My goodness. He's fucking I mean he's got a family He's got a wife and he has children with this new woman, and he's happy and he still has to pay What is that? $2,000 a week 2,000 plus a week. That's just an absolute nightmare Hilarious so here's a check for $2,000 lady. I don't even know anymore