Joe Rogan - Louis CK's Path to Redemption

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Ari Shaffir

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Ari Shaffir is a stand-up comic, writer, and podcaster. Ari is the host of the "You Be Trippin'" podcast. Watch his latest comedy special, "Ari Shaffir: America's Sweetheart," on Netflix. www.arishaffir.com

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Okay, I still don't have to go through it if it's wrong, but like There's levels there's little but also it's like getting back to it It's like you really hear about all the stuff now, and you're like whoa But there's also in terms of someone like Louie There's got to be a road to redemption and this is one of the problems with people that are so fucking angry is that they don't Think there's any road to redemption they Never play again, but the Michael Vick thing is different because Michael Vick tortured and murdered done didn't murder murder But he also went to jail for years. He did the time that the state Said you would need to do this for what I did he'd served his time. He's lost his freedom for four years. Yes Yes, so his job that he had before has nothing to do with it, but it does come down to people going I'm not through with you suffering yet Okay, same thing with Louie still think it's a different. I'm not through with you suffer You represent killing evil to women and torturing courses different. Do you represent evil to women just because you beat off? Representative of that they're not of course you're just a creeper, but like not even that I don't think but like But like pervert I guess what are you? I don't know man actually deviant you hang out with two girls We're like talking dirty for two days you go on drinks with them you start getting like the idea It's like I think I got hookup I think I might have a threesome and they're like that's not enough reason to go for it's like yeah You're right like I need more signs like well. Let me say you want to go out for drinks, and I do it's like still No, it's not enough of a sign. It's like yeah, you're right. You're right. Oh, I know all but I'm up to my hotel room That's usually a pretty universal sign, and they're coming that came to my hotel room. No. That's not enough. You're right You're right. You're right all these signs is not enough tell you what I'll just ask outright Can I fucking jerk off in front of you and they said yes? No, that's still not enough. What are you talking about? Well here's the so no not creeper, but he represents things to people Yes, just like Rosanne represented Trump when she said if she has a character voted for Trump in the next in the show So because they're representative evil against women they go just get rid of that representative right And they're not seeing him as a human being that people actually know right that is a human as a person Not only that if someone says yes If you ask can I beat off in front of you and they say yes, and then never say no no I was just kidding just leave the yes out there is this We're done here. We're done. Did you say yes? Okay, so like if a girl says can I can I play with my pussy in front of you and you go yeah? And then she doesn't go well that was fucking disgusting and I can't even believe this happened, and I'm going right to the press Like wait a minute. Did you say yes? Yeah, like okay? Here's one thing is if this is an aggressive Angry person who traps you to room you catch on the way you can get out the only way you can get out of this room Is you let this guy beat off in front of you and you're fearful of your life people don't really most people don't really care I saw him on stage everyone class like crazy. They were so happy and when he goes I guys I'm just gonna do jokes tonight. Everyone's like fuck. Yes. Yeah, just do jokes jokes We just want to see what we loved about two years ago. Yeah Ten months ago. Yeah, and Michael Vick. We just want you to see you throw we're done with that you did your crime Or we still hate you there's nothing to do with my Richards. How you got your job He just he just yelled out race of shit Like but like nobody nobody saw nobody liked him on stage, but the thing yeah, you're right so it's like Louie is you know You there's got to be some path of redemption for everybody yeah for everybody I mean human beings very wild can Bill Cosby no not go up at a prison talent show No, no, no, it's over pick Can't even go up in prison. No Disagree no I'm kidding until I know until you show me the connection to what he did versus this job You know I mean if you Pete Rose bet on baseball He hurt the job he was doing so that you like you can't be in baseball anymore because you fucked over baseball But did he fuck over baseball by betting on it? Yeah, they show he like probably threw some games through some games Or he like use his relievers and situation He wouldn't have that he can't use them tomorrow because you fucked over baseball that fucked So you baseball has shut its doors to you right if you steal jokes yes Maybe there is a path to redemption maybe but you fucked over jokes. Well you fucked over other comics Yes, so you fucked over the experience you're talking about getting back into but that guy can go to the supermarket Yes, he can work at another job because it has nothing you haven't shown me a connection to another job see the thing about the joke stealing thing and this is where it gets really really weird is There's no real Punishment other than people deciding they don't like you because you're a joke thief that is the real punishment I could talk about can Twitter take you down like no no no what I'm saying is it's different than someone who steals cars Right someone steals cars. There's a punishment setup. Yeah, you go to jail It's illegal if someone steals jokes like you've basically done the same thing you've stolen a thing You know that thing is ethereal the thing sort of yeah You've also a little different because you can still do your jokes If I see their car you can't have your car If somebody goes on in front of you like we know Mancilla did yeah, and does your headlight your clothing bit On purpose on purpose to fuck with you. He would do closing bits best is Freddy fucking with Bobby once and He was like oh you're gonna. Love is a huge fuck with Bobby Bobby Lee Yeah, but it wasn't so yeah, it was to fuck with Bobby. What is it? You're gonna. Love this next guy He's so funny and Bobby all he wanted was Freddy's support He looked up to him so hard and he could never get it you're gonna. Love this next guy He does this joke about selling corn the side of the road. He's like young corny corny yells so good He has this a little bit about about his dad tell his bits He would just tell the ending punch lines of his bit do that just pull his legs out from under him That's a terrible thing I mean he was fucking with him But he wasn't doing to gain himself only to hurt Bobby and only in one moment that I ever saw But it was like fuck you got me bad Mmm. Yeah, I mean they were bitter enemies. It was like something about ratting Routing them out to somebody a long time before The arguments way going it's done, but like they hated each other back then hmm Freddie hated Bobby Bobby hated him back only because the thing about people getting caught It's like the punishments real though. It's almost better than going to jail. Yeah It's like we don't we know about you now not only do we know about you now But the public knows about you now and the disdain is palpable Yeah, it's real and you see it not just with him not just with Mancilla But there's a few of them and you can tell a difference too between somebody going that guy took that guy's joke Versus that guy takes jokes mm-hmm. You know I mean that guy took that guy that's out there That's real right, but doesn't quite stick as much as like we all just know that guy steals jokes right? You know yeah, well, it's not a possible like I'm here It's like over and over again like there's such a clarity to and the difference between the jokes They come up with on their own and the jokes that they steal and sure you can keep going up You can still sell theaters so your punishment is we know about you