Joe Rogan - Liberals vs. Progressives

Hello freak bitches! Night and day, it really drives... The problem with liberals and progressives... Is that real? Well, this is... By definition is that. I've always thought progressive means that you support gay rights, you support women's rights... That's the outcome of gays with non-gays. Gay gays with non-gays? Yeah, they want gays to have the same rights as... I mean don't get me wrong, I want that too, and this is what I was going to say. There's a lot of overlapping magisteria when it comes to these things. Another great word. Magisteria? Yeah, I know, I'm good at that. I've never heard that before. I've never heard of that one. Areas of interest. Things that they want to have. Demes and what have... Magisteria sounds so much better than areas of interest though. Write that down, Jamie. Let's go to start using that one. Magisteria. I'm glad I'm giving you something. So yeah, basically, you know, liberal... There's no real argument against gay rights from a liberal perspective, because liberals want universal rights. Of course. If some people get married, gays should be able to get married. So what's the argument? Oh, I'm Christian, get fucked, I'm an atheist, not an argument. Whereas the progressives, they want it because someone else has it. Someone else has this, therefore they want this because they want it. And then... By whose definition? By theirs or yours? Are you defining them that way? That's what they define it as. You know, they're the ones... Do they? They're the ones saying all this. I mean, like affirmative action is the er example of this. A liberal would never ask for affirmative action, because in the liberal world view, people should be free to pursue their own goals. Now, I mean, you know, liberals are usually very anti-racist. That's not a category in which you would judge someone. Same with sex, you know. I would never turn around and say, right, okay, well, your CV is really good. I mean, you know, you clearly know what you're doing, but you've got some tits, so get out. You know, that would be ridiculous. You know, that's not a reason to do that. But the progressive will do that if you're a man. The progressive will say, well, I'm sorry, we've got, you know, we want equality. And this is what we define equality differently as. I call it equality of opportunity, they call it equality of outcome. Because they'll turn around and say, well, you know what, we've already got like 70% men. So, I mean, your CV might be great, but you've got a dick, so we can't take you. We're going to take that unqualified woman instead because we need to get to parity. Because they want equality of outcome. They want 50% men, 50% women. I have a friend who was a big wig at a big internet company, and they had to deal with that shit all the time, where they would have men who were far more qualified who they were getting pressured to push out to make room for, like they were specifically looking for a qualified black woman. They were going out of their way because they wanted to give out the appearance of diversity. But that's because they're also scared of criticism, right? So they're scared of being attacked by these... And progressive activists. And by race pimps. I mean, there are a lot of race pimps, which is like... I like race pimps. Yeah, it's not mine. They used it for Jesse Jackson back in the day. But it's a good time. And he's been outed as a race pimp. I mean, they've talked to people who've like, yeah, famously come to organizations and said, I'm going to give you diversity courses, and you're going to pay me a certain amount of money, or we're going to protest you. It's like a secular religion, isn't it? And they're a new priesthood. Well, it's people don't like being criticized, and they don't want it to hurt their business. And when you... Oh, it doesn't get fucked. Especially if you're dealing with an internet business, internet-based businesses, like Google, for example, Apple, classically liberal, right? You would say progressive. Well, progressive, yeah, they're not liberal. Yeah, very left. In England, liberal actually means liberal. In the United States, liberal means progressive. I hate all these fucking terms. Yeah, I know. It really is a nightmare. It's taken me a long time to really be able to hammer out the ins and outs ideologically of it. And so I can explain it quite efficiently now.