Joe Rogan - Holloway vs. Khabib is CRAZY!

Yeah, I'm always trying to come up with the name of those guys. They're all the same, but all access embedded 24-7. Embedded's very good. I should remember the name. It's very good. They're all, yeah, they're all good. And this new one is really good, because it's got Max Holloway running on a treadmill, two treadmills over from Nurmagomedov, who's also running on a treadmill. And they're fucking very cool to each other. It's very interesting. Khabib thanked him for taking the fight, which he should. Thanks for taking the fight. And then they have the same weight coach. Yeah, that's crazy. Lockhart, right? Yeah, it's Lockhart. Does Lockhart work with Nurmagomedov as well? Yes, both of them. So Lockhart is legit. He goes over calculations of how much you weigh, how much water you're going to take, and he's weighing things out. Took him an hour and a half to do the calculations. He wasn't like, hey, we're going to weigh this. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to do this weight cut correctly, and he's got it down to the day. You know, like, it's six days to lose. I think he was 171. I was wondering, what did he start at? Is it 171? Yeah, so I think he's got to lose 16 pounds. What's crazy is when Max is on my show, I was talking a little bit off air, and this is on record, I'm not spilling anything that he didn't say, but he just goes, you know, with the injury, Jesus Christ. Embedded, I think, is better than that UFC, not UFC, the HBO ones. I think it's better than all of them. The 24-7? How dare you. I think it's better than all of them. The 24-7 when there's a big fight? Yeah, you know, I think in general they're better. Well, I think in general they're better because they do more of it, but a 24-7, they're very good. They're fucking good. They're very good. A leaf shriver. Oh, I love that guy. Bro, watch your words, son. I love that guy. I love that guy. Yeah, I like these better. Remember when they had the Ollie Cat leaf shriver? Yeah. He's like, tonight, here we go. But it was nowhere near the same. Yeah, it was horrible. I'd like this because there's almost no narration, right? Yeah. It's almost just all the story. It tells the story. I want to see the footage. I would have liked the video of when they called Max with the fight because from what I heard, he goes, Khabib, that stuff's got in the world. Fuck, yeah, let's go. Wow. Which is insane. Why don't they have a video of that? No one knew. I don't think they knew, you know, to turn the video on. I don't think Max knew why they were calling him. That would be an amazing video. Of him being like... Especially if he wins. This is my thing with Max is I think Khabib is the toughest fight in the world on Six Days Notice. I'd rather fight anybody else in the world than Khabib on Six Days because his style and just his tenacity. But for Max, win, lose or draw, whatever happens Saturday night, if you don't respect and like him even more after this, you're a moron. You're a fucking moron. There's very few champions on a run like Max Holloway's on that would be willing to take this fight on Six Days Notice. And also, I should say, coming off of a broken foot. Correct. So he had to pull out of a fight with a broken foot with Frankie Edgar, which just happened. So, I mean, how healed is he? And like I said, on my show, he was saying, you know, I've been doing some jujitsu, but in the swing of things, for me, it's good because I haven't been balls deep into training. I've just been a little jujitsu, you know, getting a light workout, but it gives me time with my family because which he goes, you know, this in camp, you're present, but you're not, which is true. And he goes, you know, so I'm going through it. I'm with my son and the family, but I'm thinking about something else. So this has been good for me to really focus on my family. That was what, two weeks ago, three weeks ago? Wow. So then, bam, you're fighting Khabib. And the reason why he wants to fight Khabib is because he thinks Khabib's the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Yeah. And which is nuts because, you know, when you look at Khabib's resume, it's good. It doesn't blow your hair back. He's 25 and 0, for God's sake. It's good. But it's not like all this crazy, you know, big names on his record. Right. But you talked, I was just in San Jose. John Fitch goes, dude, and this is John Fitch. Yeah. You know, could be, you know, welterweight goat. He's fucking not goat, but he's goddamn good. He goes, I've never seen anyone in my lifetime like Khabib. He goes, I fought GSP in his prime. He would beat him. That's how good he is. DC said he's the pound for pound greatest fighter he's ever seen. DC said that he hand fights with him. Like DC's, well, the heavyweight strike force champion. He said, he goes, dude, we go to war. War. We go to war. War. Like imagine that. DC's a gorilla. He's jacked. I mean, DC's got some body fat on him. He's strong as a fucking ox. DC's so goddamn talented. He's so good. It's not even funny. Watch when DC throws Josh Barnett through the air. When they fought strike force, you just go, Jesus. Remember when he did the Hendo? Dude, the Hendo fight was offensive. He's a goddamn American. He was offensive. He wagged all the Hendo. And couldn't be a cooler guy. Like DC. The nicest guy ever. DC might be the nicest fighter of all time. One of my favorite people. Him or Max? They're up there. I love them. The nicest fighter. I don't know Max as well as I know DC because I've done so many shows with him. But for DC, as good as he is to say that him and Khabib go to war, I'm like, that's crazy. Dude, Josh Thompson, who's the captain of the AK said, you know, Ed Ruth, Penn State, three time national champion, freak, just started doing MMA and Bellator. Complete freak wrestling. I was in San Jose and he did a show with him and I go, what were you doing? He goes, I just came from practice. Khabib's second class practice. I go, what was he doing? He goes, just straight wrestling. I said, who was he wrestling with? He goes, Ed Ruth. I go, oh my God, the Penn State, like legend. He goes, yeah, man. I go, how's that go down? He's like, the only one of them is going down. And then Khabib, I'm like, what? Ed Ruth? And he goes, oh, he goes, bro. I've never seen anything like it. So there's just this legend of why they skip when they tell me that it scares me like, geez, well, what are you going to do? You see it in action when you saw the Barbosa fight, he's walking towards him like a zombie, gets ahold of them and just rag dolls. I'm just rag dolls. But this is what's great about this fight. And this is what makes our sport so special is, yeah, I'm super bummed. I've been in deep depression because Ferguson fell out and we've talked about this off here. But our sport's so special because what Max Holloway has the chance to do Saturday night, if he can beat him, if he can somehow pull that out, there's nothing like in professional sports. There's nothing like it. If LeBron goes out, the team still goes on. It's whatever. If Tom Brady gets hurt, it sucks, but they still play here. You know, man, Max has a huge chance. Now, are the odds stacked against him? Good God, are they ever. They're going to be a worse matchup for him. But what's the one Achilles heel if there is one for a could be a guy who can strike going backwards. Max Halloway is pretty fucking good at going backwards. Yeah, it's a fascinating fight if there was no controversy, if it wasn't like six day time period for him. But that's what's so great. I know it's kind of cool. The only other fight that's been like that was Nate when Nate took on Connor in the first. Here's the difference, though. Nate's the bigger guy, right? Nate's the bigger guy, the more seasoned guy there. So for Nate, it's like, yeah, it was short notice, but that's a rough matchup for Connor. You know, Connor should be an underdog in that fight. They only fight at the same weight class. So that makes a little more sense. But wait a minute. They do Nate. Nate fights at fifty five before that, though. He's fighting at seventy. Oh, no, no, no. He only fought three times at seventy. But he's fought at seventy. He's the point. He fought at seventy. He's never fought at seventy. Right. But if when Connor fought him at seventy, that was seventy. Yeah, Connor's never fought. He's not seventy pounder. Right. But I mean, Nate, when he fought seventy, it didn't go well. I mean, who did he fight? He fought Rory McDonald at seventy. Tough matchup. Who else did he fight? Who else did he fight at seventy? He lost his fights at seventy, I think. He wasn't great at, no, he didn't lose all of them. Wasn't great at seventy. But the thing is, he's the bigger man. He's a much bigger guy. But if they agreed to fight at one fifty five, he would make the one fifty five weight level. One hundred percent. Yes. Like, there was all this talk about him being so much bigger than Connor. Oh, he's bigger for sure, Joe. He's taller. He's taller. He's a bigger guy. He walked around heavier. Well, when he gets heavier, but when they fight at fifty five, he makes that weight, and Connor makes that weight tough, too. They both struggled to make one fifty five. It's a much easier cut for Connor at fifty five. It's not the hardest cut. But when you look at the difference between how he looks physically when he fought Nate at one seventy, and how he looks when he's, you know, one forty five, he was awful. I was going to say, Connor can make one forty five. Nate could never, I mean, there's no chance. He probably could have made it when he was an ultimate fighter. Cut a leg off. You know, like, real Liski's not making forty five. Well, he was very thin during the ultimate fighter days. Remember? Well, you have to be because you're an ultimate fighter, right? So you have to make weight basically three times in a row. Well, I just think he filled in, too. I mean, he was really young back then, too. Hundred percent. But you have to maintain a lower weight. Yeah. That's the closest fight to it, though. I agree. That fight's the closest. No, I agree with you. And the same kind of balls that Nate has is like what... But Max, the difference is that like Max has taken on a guy that everybody's avoiding. No one's been able to solve the riddle of Khabib. No one's even ever even put him in jeopardy. Michael Johnson hit him, but that really wasn't a little bit. We were talking about that the other day. Who knows what was going on in that fight? Because that was a fight where he had the same issue cutting weight that he did when he had to pull out of the Ferguson fight, where his body shut down. Correct. So who knows? He had that same issue with the Michael. He might have been severely compromised in that fight, even though he beat the fuck out of it. I agree. The difference between McGregor and Diaz is they both keep it on the feet, really, right? Yeah. Diaz is a phenomenal boxer, comes phenomenal striker. Max Holloway, phenomenal striker, Khabib, phenomenal grappler. So it's even more of a task because Khabib's not going to sit there and strike. That's your one way to win? Cool. I'm the best grappler on earth. Yeah. He'll entertain it for a little bit. But if you want you down, there's literally no one in the world from, I'll say, 155 to 170, he's not going to take down. I want to see, I really want to see him in some straight grappling competition. Do you hear in this? Yeah. Hear in that, about how amazing he is in the training room. I'll tell you. You're from a guy like DC. I know. And Fitch. And Thompson. I mean, you're talking about the whole pioneers of the sport. Yeah, animals. I want to see him against Woodley at 70. I think 70 is his natural weight class. Yeah. I think he'd probably be a lot healthier. Imagine that. Imagine him being stronger and healthier. Woodley and Khabib? Jesus. What? But Woodley's a different thing, man. You miss. You fuck up and you leave yourself in a position to get hit with one of those nuclear bombs. I'll knock you out. Woodley could put people to sleep. And he can grapple his ass off. Grapple his ass off, hard to take down, and puts people to sleep with one shot. I don't think Woodley gets his due. And I think the best evidence is the two fights that people point to where they say that Woodley should have done better. Those are the Thompson fights. And the Maya fight. The Maya fight, but Maya never got hurt. Like, he hit Maya a bunch of times, but it was uneventful because he was hurt. Woodley was hurt early in the first round with his shoulder. He fucked his shoulder up. But obviously, Maya the way she'd fight. Maya, if you don't want to go to the ground. 100%. But my point is, in those two fights with Thompson, Woodley was the one who hurt Thompson. He hurt him bad. Bad in both fights. Almost stopped him in both fights. Yeah, I don't want to see him ever fight again, but I hear you. Great fight. Yeah, I can't believe he's got a good fight. Yeah, I'll pass. Hard pass. If it was a crazy UFC 200 card that was on it, I wouldn't be mad. Me neither. But as a main event, I get it. I get it. I get what people have said twice. Wow, cool. Yeah, no, that's a super complicated equation to solve. I'm set. I'm set, though. They're just not good dance partners. If it was the same thing, if they just said, no, this time's going to be different. I'm going to war. I'm going to war. Fuck you. And then two rounds in, you're like, no. You bastards. They just circling each other. That's like Dana on Ferguson and Khabib. He's like, that fight's never happened. A fifth time, not happening. I'm like, I get it. I get it, man. It's such a bummer, though. Let's talk business. Like, I don't know how many pay-per-views this was going to do, but for the hardcore fans, this was a big one. This was a big one, because this is the first time Khabib is fighting a guy that's super versatile, that can fight standing up, can knock you out with one shot, tough as fuck, has incredible endurance, and can grab off his back. And the most dangerous guy Khabib will ever face. Yeah. Tony Ferguson has the perfect style to test, so we could really find out where Khabib's at, because we know where Tony's at. And we kind of know where Khabib's at.