Joe Rogan Explains Eddie Bravo's Flat Earth Beliefs

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Pat Miletich is a former UFC Welterweight Champion and current commentator.

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Yeah, I find Eddie. I've always found Eddie really interesting. He's a trip. He's definitely a trip. And you can tell he's a thinker, you know what I mean? He's a very analytical guy, a very analytical grappler with great flexibility. I just always would watch him go, this guy's fucking slick, man. He knows a lot of shit, especially when he comes to jiu-jitsu. And I'm talking, you know, I'm going to see him tomorrow morning. Oh, really? What are you doing? You know, Sam Tripoli? Sure, I know Sam very well. Yeah, so I'm doing that show, and Eddie's going to be there. I want him to explain flat earth to me. He's not going to be able to. I want to know, man. This is what it is. Eddie thinks that everybody's lying. That everybody, and NASA, and the government, and because of that, I believe he has a blind spot. And that he, if they're telling you the world's round, he's saying, well, it can't be round. Right. And it's not a good way to think. No. But it's the same reason why he's so good at jiu-jitsu. Because he sees an idea, and he just pursues it, and chases after it. And he turns it around. But jiu-jitsu is like, it's all, you know, it's all quantified. It's all right there. Two bodies, it's all very simple. There's no mystery. Right. You know, it's just a figure, it's just figuring out a puzzle. Yeah. But I can see how people get that way, because I was a guy who, you know, not to go off on a tangent, but I think it's fun to think about, in 1971, when I was, you know, a young boy standing in line in Albia, Iowa, with my grandma and my mom, when the farm collapse was happening, when Nixon took us off the gold standard, right, shit fell apart for the farmers right away. And my grandma was one of the first people in line to get her money out of the farmer's national bank in Albia, Iowa. And she got it out. And I remember, still to this day, standing there and asking my mom and my grandma, what the hell is going on? Why is this happening? What's going on? You can see the panic. The farmers went for blocks, right, from all around that part of Iowa. And it just, I think that's what started the wheels turning in my head about being a contrarian thinker. You know what I mean? Well, there's real conspiracies and there's real things where people misunderstand the actual facts. Right. Flatter is not one of them. No. It's just not. It's just not. I mean, there's so many stuff. I mean, look, snipers use the curvature of the earth to calculate ballistics. Yeah. It's just, it's just, it's a real thing. Right. I mean, there's plenty of shit that's not real. But I want Eddie to tell me. That's a real thing. I want him to explain it to me. It's going to be frustrating. I don't know if he believes it anymore. He might have let it go by now. I'm hoping he did. Right. I don't talk to him about it anymore. I just, we had a few conversations about it on the podcast and initially he thought it was stupid. He thought the flat earth concept was stupid. And then all of a sudden he started being open minded to him like, what the fuck are you saying? Like, what in the fuck are you saying? This is crazy. And he's like, and he kept going to the, they faked the moon landing. They're like, it's not even the same people. Right. Like if they did, that was a long fucking time ago. You're talking about people right now. There's satellites all over the world. There's a lot of people that think satellites are fake. I think Eddie thinks dinosaurs aren't real. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. You know, it's interesting and I never, and the first time I fought in the UFC, I went into things, dinosaurs. Yeah, it hurts. It hurts my head. I went into the production trailer at my first UFC. I wanted to see what was going on in there. Right. That was, that always intrigued me how TV was put together. Right. And I was lucky enough to bring my daughter to one of our broadcasts with access TV and Lonnie, who's, he's the expert to find the satellites. He's got an app on his phone. Have you ever seen guys do that? No. He has an app on his phone where he can punch it in and do this across the sky and spot all the, the satellites. Right. Oh, interesting. So he knows how to dial into them, call up, know the, the coordinates to turn the, the dish towards and lock onto a percentage of the satellite, you know, receptor to get it beamed back down, all that sort of stuff. So he was teaching my daughter how all that stuff was done. And it was the first time I'd ever seen it. I was like, this was pretty, pretty amazing stuff. But yeah, you can see the curvature of the earth and how the satellites are set across the horizon. Right. Well, you could track satellites. The thing is these guys don't even believe in satellites. Here's what the problem is. If someone has no interruption and they put together a video and that video, they're articulate and they sound calm, they use big words and they show you images that they're claiming show that the earth is flat, that there's an ice wall outside of Antarctica and that the government won't let you go there. They start saying all these things. If there's no one there, you know, like Neil deGrasse Tyson type guy there is go, Hey, hey, hey, no, that's not true. And here's why. And here's how we know. And here's what we found out. And here's a test you can do yourself and here's how you can figure it out. And here's what you could find online. And here, and like for the longest time, they were trying to say that there was no full pictures of the earth, that the, uh, the, the earth, like every photo you see of the earth is a composite. No, there's a fucking Japanese satellite called the Himawari 8. It takes full, full images of the earth, high resolution, every 10 minutes. You can go Google it. You can watch them. There's the NASA has one too. There's giant photos of the fucking earth from 22,000 miles out or whatever the hell it is. I mean, it's really, it's fucking real. There's a lot of shit to think about that's fascinating. That's not one of them.