Joe Rogan Experience #717 - Steve-O

Gentlemen we're live Yeah, dude Steve Oh ladies and gentlemen Brian Red band in the house Steve Oh preparing himself for his long stretch in the pokey from mocking SeaWorld openly On top of a very dangerous sign dude. There's a video of you you were streaming live while you you fucked with the SeaWorld sign Would you write what I had two different ones? I had the highway sign where I changed it to say SeaWorld sucks And then there's the the one where I climbed up the hundred and fifty foot tall crane Okay, I think both of them made me shit my pants One of them we were watching it Brian and I were watching it and my toes were curling I know you're watching it live lifting up. Yeah, we were watching No, it was when we were in SeaWorld when you are I mean San Diego and you were doing the sign one Climbing up the sign and you kept on the head. Yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah, how did you live? Man that was seemed that one made sense I fall that was like appropriate it was right there down in San Diego near SeaWorld The highway sign said SeaWorld Drive and I changed it to say SeaWorld sucks I guess it was appropriate my crane one was completely fucking idiotic. There's a Okay, let me protest SeaWorld at some random construction site nowhere fucking near SeaWorld You know, let me fucking bring an inflatable killer whale like a toy whale Climb up 150 foot crane when you're 150 feet up in the air Nobody no one's gonna be able to see your fucking toy whale, you know, it's so dumb. What's that dot? Right? Yeah, it's Steve. I want a dot. I know be they nobody could even tell it's right by the time I get up there I got 80 firefighters 18 cops a helicopter and a SWAT team I'm like the problem with that stuff is if something real was going down and they had put all the resources Trust me. I get it. Yeah, that's why I'm going to jail How long you go to jail I have a 30-day sentence But I don't think I like I don't that I think they automatically cut it in half and then maybe even get out quicker How does that work I Have to go to jail at all Like I asked my lawyer to get me jail time specifically because my fucking crane stunt was so idiotic Ah, I was like man. I gotta go to jail. That would be the only one tiny little part of it that makes any sense at all Because like if you're trying to make a statement about captivity, right, you know, right put yourself in captivity Right, it's the whole deal. So I asked for it and and so you asked for jail Well, you could have gotten out of jail. I'm sure I could I could have done like community service like Whatever like I was like now do you because I'm a fucking intention whore So like I'm like dude like like scrubbing graffiti. That's not a cool story like going to jail That's a headline, you know, like I'm gonna get fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna I mean You know Steve was going to jail That's a fucking that's newsworthy. It's so ridiculous Yeah, welcome to my world did you see that Did you say that to the to the judge? Well, no, I never even had to go to court because you know like they all worked it out so but they kept postponing my my arraignment and when The way you know by the time that like the prosecutor and my lawyer finally worked out a deal Then when the arraignment was back on they said hey we reached the deal and they closed it all down Have you been to jail before sure Hilarious criminal record ever dude was the first time the first time I Was like 16 or 17 like going to high school in England and just got nailed with some weed You ever jail in another country. Oh, I've been in jail in like five countries What's the scary five but I've been see Canada England America Sweden and I'm not counting Mexico because that was more of a catch and release Right what would it happen in Mexico, ah It was like I was You know like blacking out on special k you know like ketamine and I was like climbing on this roof and like I kind of like fell off of it and Not on it. They just grabbed me and like detained me. Oh, so was yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I wasn't like Yeah, but it was pretty scary. It was legit when you're in when you're in Mexico like that's fun You know fucked up you can vanish. Yeah Yeah, like a lot of people vanished right? I find that el Chapo guy They're not gonna find a fair. No apparently they were closing in on him and he fell and broke his leg And he was carried off by his guards. Yeah, apparently they were they're close. They keep closing in on right But that's like a good disappear for that guy. He's psyched to disappear most people disappear in Mexico That's a very good point yeah people vanish in Mexico like those students like the 43 students that were murdered It's just scary shit right so when you were in Mexico when you would you sober up in jail? Did you like realize what had happened now like? Yeah, I don't know I mean I guess like it all just like kind of worked out It wasn't it wasn't a big deal. You know um they let me go but uh They just kicked out yeah in Sweden I was in like properly in jail for fucking five days like for international drug smuggling Which did you bring in well what I did. I was videotaping it and uh I was in Norway, and I put a bunch of weed into a condom I tied it in a knot and swallowed it choked on it. I was like peeking up blood trying to get it out So then I flew from Norway to Sweden so that it would you know You put it on video. Yeah, yeah, totally and I put it on the internet. Well. Yeah, I mean later You know later, but um so how big I swallowed it in Norway and got in an airplane to Sweden so that so that way I'm crossing international lines. You know to qualify as an international drug smuggler then when I got to Sweden You know I had my I was promoting my tour Every interview like they say like oh yeah, how you doing? I said mom man I think I might dive intestinal strangulation because I swallowed this big package of drugs And it won't come out you know cuz it took days It didn't come out for like six and a half days So this says so every like like a reporter like wrote their article or whatever it was and the cops are at the newspaper and so then they like they arrested me like after I shitted out and and they took me to the jail and You know like they brought me into the from the jail to the hospital Put me in this like cat scan machine which revealed they said a foreign object in my body I still don't know what what that was and they kept me in a cell for five days shitting into plastic bags They're fucking digging through my shit Yeah, and like and then and then after five days in there They brought me back to the hospital for another like scan And it showed that like the foreign object had only moved like three centimeters like my body And so like they were like oh fuck it, and they just have me pay fine and go you don't even know what it is I don't know. I don't know they said it was like Key Sharp and I don't know it was sharp. Yeah, I really don't know what it was Maybe they're even bullshitting but it might be still in there ten years. Did you ever get yourself looked at again? No? Update my friend yeah, I see I didn't I didn't even really care that much But yeah, Sweden that was wild man And again I was super psyched because I knew I was on that little scrolling fucking thing on CNN at the bottom So you were psyched for that well Yeah, I mean I thought I might because what came out that when they brought me to the station initially Like they put my backpack on the table and they reach into it like the first pocket They reach into the first thing they pulled out was a fucking ecstasy pill Like with a fucking Print like an imprint of a smiley face on it. You know oh And I didn't even remember it being in there. I'm like fuck I didn't know that was in there, and then I thought man Maybe I'll be in Sweden for a while, but it turns out this the ecstasy wasn't even like that You know they weren't even that bent out of shape over ecstasy. They're more pissed about weed over there really yeah I don't know why just like I think it's because we're country things well because weed like they think it makes you lazy I think and they're not cool. That's how it is in Asia. Why I think I think you know they're like you know this That makes you lazy, and and and we're not fucking lazy people and so they want to really punish you that really frustrates me That that stereotype with weed making you lazy That drives me crazy. That is the one that drives me the most nuts. You're lazy. You're lazy We does not make you fucking lazy. It just doesn't I'm not lazy Drives me not I was never lazy man when I was loaded no my longest time in jail Well you know I got I was I was in LA County jail for five days one time. I got arrested for felony obscenity and Principal to second-degree battery in Louisiana whoa yeah because it was like I was doing my own show What does that mean principal to it means that I? arranged like an assault what the fuck happened well what happened was like I was doing my old show and You know part of it was I was chugging out of a tequila bottle like throughout the whole thing And I'd like you know whatever like I had the tequila bottle at the edge of the stage And you know some kid like climbed on the stage and grabbed the bottle and I see these bouncers come over and just neutralize it You know I'm like damn these guys are good these fucking bouncers are pro So as I said who wants to get on this stage and try to run from one side of the stage to the other Past the bouncers you know it's a British Bulldog will play British Bulldog, and these guys are gonna fuck you up So this like one kid who's like this bony little skinny little 19 year old kid was like jumping up and down like Pointing at himself like he was just so he wanted it so bad And I couldn't like I had to pick him so I picked this kid and he ran He just ran. I you know I'm videoing at myself. I said one two three go The kid like runs halfway across the stage, and they just grabbed me It was totally anticlimactic and these three like football player the college football player bouncers Like they just lifted him up like in unison like over their heads and legs just spiked the kid on his head on this Oh, no, and he was like twitching and and like you know I don't think there are the police reports said he was bleeding out of an ear or something like and And it was really fucked up You know they do that when they knew that he was gonna run across I don't know I never said slam him on his head. You know I said that maybe fuck But but yeah, and so like you know in my mind I'm thinking aw dude. This is such a lawsuit like this is this is bad. You know so you know funny You're not thinking oh my god. This poor kids Legal fees right that too, but like what it whatever was it was just all bad You know it was all bad in my head like the mantra the show must go on like pretend It's not bad and just continue, so I'm like I was Fuck on the video and somebody in the crowd was was Had a home video camera rolling on and this was like what was it? 2002 so like I mean this is before they had cameras on cell phones and someone's got like a fucking like VHS home video camera and On on the tape which they turned over they were like that's a crime So they turned it over to the cops or they escaped the newspaper and the newspaper gave it to the cops so On the thing I'm like that kids being loaded into an ambulance fucking who wants to play another round of British? No, I know it was bad did anybody sign up for round two I can't remember I can't remember if we did or not but but uh That it was assault though honestly well you're the as it was principled to second-degree battery So or whatever I think that's how I think I have it right and like they you know that that was a crime But but the people like you know they watch this video They really were upset with with Steve-o and so there was another point in the video Where I stay I use an industrial staple gun to staple my ball sack to my leg Oh, you know normal shit right and So I've gotten I'm covered in blood to like because like Part of the other part of the show I break a light bulb over my head and like pick up like a piece of broken glass Literally slash my tongue Because the tongue like bleed so much and it heals really fast So I just bleed all over myself a smear of blood everywhere and so I'm covered in blood And I've got my dick and balls just blatantly out And I'm holding the industrial staple gun getting ready to staple my ball sack to my leg And I say this is not art. This is just to be offensive I Staple my balls to my leg and so like you know being that it was Louisiana and one of these parishes they deemed that felony obscenity Mmm, which was a saving grace man because like because the story on that one was like Steve-o got arrested for Stapling his balls to his leg. You know like the thing with the kid didn't really play that much You Did sue me for like brain damage people I don't think he even had brain damage well, I'll tell you right now he had brain damage 100% you get spiked on your head some cells die. I mean maybe percent right But yeah, like I got I got properly sued So did you go to did you lose or did you go to court? I mean it was dead settled Settled it. Yeah, you say how much um he got 50 grand that's it's not that good, but you know like you Think that that's what it was Did you talk to me 50 grand was my legal fees? I can't remember. Did you talk to the bouncers? He goes why did you spike him on his head? Why don't you just grab him? They just grabbed him I know Grabbing him would have been funny You know right just grab and take him out of their help You know to hold them over throw them into the audience like a stage diver. Yeah, yeah They really really it was upsetting they shouldn't have done that see the problem is you give people a green light like that Okay, you've seen some shit the bouncers have done to people when people climb onto that stage. There's a green light I mean right it's like it's sort of like the cop thing You know like when when cops like did you see that video recent video of the cop grabbing the schoolgirl? She's in her desk. She won't get out of her desk, and he just fucking rag dolls her and slams her in the desk on the ground It's when cops have the green light when they can do whatever they want to do then you're leaving it up to the discretion Of this guy that's probably not thinking that straight right a little stressed out Yeah, I got beat up by a few bouncers one guy Grabbed me took me out back and just like pushed me against the wall Just kept on slapping him in the face, and wouldn't let me go and he like sat there for like 10 I was like 18, and he's just like wailing on my face Then you'll be like you gonna do that again motherfucker, and then just like punch me in I felt like I was captured like yeah It's kind of kind of having an assault really cuz I was outside of the club He was just ramming me against the wall and shit like they're not supposed to do that right but we left that club in Louisiana that I knew I was gonna hear about it again and As sure enough like it took a couple weeks, but you know I was like sleeping off a cocaine bender And my roommate says hey, man You really got to get up for this and there's like the LA the LA fugitive division they had it like they they had a Fugitive warrant out of Louisiana with For you yeah, yeah There's a there are two two charges the felony obscenity and then the second degree battery thing LA should just let that felony upset I slide, but they should be like you keep that yourself you fucking redneck douchebag You know that I love that charge But the thing was that like they gave me a $120,000 bail Like our warrant for for the the battery and then for the felony obscenity they gave me a million Oh my god So I showed up on the the like the fugitive list like and like pole position number one with 1.12 million dollar bail oh my god And And so like they they brought me in they're like what'd you do and I'm like I stapled my balls to my leg You know like that nobody could understand it And I was in LA County Jail in the protective custody where I'll be starting on December 9th They're gonna put you in protective custody. Well. Yeah, I mean like I'm like a high-profile dude and he'd like you you would be in protective custody too and You know that I mean at the time it was 2002 I just got my back tattoo, but the movie wasn't out yet So nobody knew about it and the cops like were pretty psyched to have me in there And they they brought me into like their their office whatever like they're giving me like boxes and boxes of cookies I'm sure it's my back tats here. I remember there. They were like ah dude. You'll be fine in here, man What is the back tattoo that they were taking picture that my self-portrait? Oh? Yeah? Yeah, I've seen it. That's right Yeah, and they were like oh you'll be fine in here man This is Robert Downey jr.. Block you know like we've had they're listing off all the celebrities that have been in there Yeah, Tommy Lee like everybody in here. They're like and and o DB is always in here. You're actually in his cell Fuck yeah, this is a good one the longest I was in jail was ten days in Orlando For that was for drunk driving now. That's fucked up. Yeah, yeah like that that was fucked up and I remember like that was in 1996 and I mean I hadn't really broken out yet. You know so Like I couldn't really like afford. I mean I barely could afford to get to Orlando I think I lived in South Florida like near West Palm Beach, and so I could I just scrape money together for a for a Greyhound bus to get to Orlando, and I was like I can't afford I can afford to get there once for my arraignment I can't afford to like go get arraigned and then set a date and then come back and then come back again and my I had a public defender the public defender had said yeah, I saw the video We're not gonna be able to do much about this. You know that was the one where my arrest report said defendant declined roadside sobriety tests stating he would prefer to take a nap I Was trying to argue that I wasn't actually drunk. I was just really tired And So I just told the Public defender guy was like man. I can't afford to like go home and come back again So I got the arraignment can we just like plead guilty and like asked that I go to jail like right away I Said so that's what we did and I actually did the whole ten days So what is a what's worse Mexico or Orlando as far as jail? well the The Mexico was just like holding you know like Orlando was like proper like proper jail like like processed and it was pretty mellow because like in Orlando They said like you know as you get like you know Process you get like orientation, you know, they kind of break down what it's gonna be like they give you a tub of like like a Tupperware tub of like your belongings where you've got like whatever like your Blanket like a soap like you know, they won't let you have a razor but like a toothbrush And they're like these are this is your belongings. Okay, like you're gonna have it at the foot of your bed You're gonna keep it like this and like fucking don't piss us off. Don't do anything wrong because if you hear Pack up your belongings, you know, then what that means is Then you're gonna pack all your shit into your tub and you're going into the fucking dungeon, you know And what that means like is that like if you're in the dungeon then down there They're like and there's just not there's you're just not on camera down there like anything can happen to you like and like You know that was like sort of the the incentive to like be on your best behavior You know because up here like everything's on camera like you can you know It was just like you don't want to go to the they're just letting you know that if you Fuck up if you fuck up you're going down and bad shit's gonna happen to you because you're gonna be because only people go down to the dungeon are like like dangerous people that you don't want to be Like fucking with you know, so they're gonna be with you in That's the that yeah, yeah basically like basically like the the Worst people who are more inclined to hurt you are in the dungeon and no cameras Yeah, if I remember cuz I remember like being like always on camera no matter what happened I don't know if it was no cameras, but they're just like we're not gonna like down there Nothing can nothing's gonna be nothing. Nothing gets stopped like you're gonna get fucked You're gonna be fucked and then it worked it kept like everything pretty like civil, you know, like so I was I was Very well behaved now when you're in jail for ten days, is it easy like in ten days? Can you get drugs in ten days? Or do you have to like get to know the system? I don't think that you're gonna have as much luck in County Jail like like County Jail by definition means that you have a sentence of Less than one year and then at the point of it being one year then it's called prison and in prison I think it's like that's where you can get whatever you want and all that like really? Yeah, I don't think I like I don't think Like jail is is as you know, probably make hooch is probably the big thing Right, I mean and maybe like like I even I don't have that much experience. I don't know but like I couldn't get You know, I was doing like back flips for extra food and shit Like people give you food like the people that work there or the people that other inmates the people that work there, you know when they had the cart that came by and And I remember too like there was like in Orlando Like the jails a big business in Orlando because it's kind of like Mecca, you know Like maybe even more than Mecca like more families like travel from all over the world to It's like the biggest like tourist thing So like the business is like they say like you come to Orlando on vacation You leave on probation and you return on violation And They have all the theme parks there, right? They have Disneyland. They fucking see what's your bum? See world there too And see it Tony. I'm where they closed in SeaWorld down because you know in California They just made it illegal for them to breathe in captivity. They fucking made they banned captive breeding In California banned captive breeding, which means that it only applies to the San Diego Sea world, but that fucking Came down whatever that decision was and it was made official Like within two days of me getting my jail sentence. That's amazing And I like to think that maybe it's such a coincidence But I like to think that I got people sort of talking about it, you know, like like, you know Thinking about it and then they're like, you know what fuck those people Well, you definitely did you definitely put some attention on it But there's been some attention on it for quite a while and then we'll be blackfish was the big ones That was the big one that woke up a lot of people when they did just realize like whoa Well, what it what it what is this place killed SeaWorld for me forever? I used to love it going as a kid. I was always telling you like you're you're going to watch prisoners You're going to watch slaves It's super fucked dude. It's super fucked. They're like water people I mean, they really are like as smart as human beings Harder too because like this they're they're loyalty and shit like that like humans aren't that loyal Well, you could say that but some humans are and dolphins kill a lot of babies, right? I know like they're they kill baby dolphins. They rape a lot. This they're not the best Not well, so even killer whales killer whales kill dolphins. Oh, yeah, and whales they eat whales alive like it's a hard fucking world in the ocean the world the oceans a doggy dog world or Dolphin eat baby world or a whale killer whale Well, sure There has never been an instance of a killer whale You know I did people would like to come orcas that an orcas never attacked a human in the wild That's true. We were filming wild boys. We went to Alaska and we like ran across a pod of Orcas and We had Manny the crazy shark guy, you know Like the Tarzan looking dude that rides sharks everywhere and he was so jazzed He sees killing these fucking killer whales in the wild He's like like just dives in to go swim with them, you know And like and we had we had an inflatable killer whale there too and like we towed Pontius like on it, you know, like try to like right through it But you couldn't you swim towards these orcas and and they're out man. They don't want to hang with you Yeah, they but they have saved people they've saved drowning people. Oh, yeah You know that people capsized boats. They've actually lifted them up and helped them. They're very smart They say that they have dialects they have like you can tell they're different accents. They they recognize each other They stay with the same family for life That's why it's so fucked up when they take them away like you're stealing someone away like a child away from their mother Yeah, it's so fucking dark and when you see those SeaWorld commercials They're like we haven't taken orcas from the wild in over 34 years like that's imagine if there was a commercial for like Nabisco and Nabisco was like we haven't stolen slaves in over 34 years the slides that we have We have had them for a long time. Right? That's basically what they're saying Go ahead I grew up with a sea-rode in Ohio and it's really weird how you know growing up They don't teach you that like hey we captured these guys It you always kind of thought like oh they're injured and we helped them and that's why they're here It was always kind of like oh I like sea-rode because I like I want to see these dolphins do good and be better But you know after but after watching that movie you realize you know, it's the exact opposite. They just kind of right Slavery. Yeah, they say a dolphin has a cerebral cortex. It's 40% larger than a human beings They don't mean they don't have the ability to alter their environment They can't pick things up and move them around they can't send emails But they don't have to they live in a 3d world like they can fly around in their world I mean they come up for air but in their world they can go left right up down They don't need fingers like it's not necessary So our idea like what's intelligence like if you can't type something or if you can't build a house you're a fucking idiot You know, that's how we look at it I just but but those things that we define as intelligent when it comes to human beings are completely unnecessary They go where the water is warm the fish are everywhere fish are stupid as fuck. They swim up to him I jack them dolphins probably never starve to death. I mean they're faster than fish I mean, I guess they die of old age, but you gotta think like if unless they run out of fish Fish are probably easy as fuck for them to catch. They just swim up and jack them It's like food is floating around the sky Imagine if everywhere you went like there's sandwiches just floating around in front of you I'm just hanging out with your homies and grab a sandwich. Yeah, I mean that's Yeah, that's dolphin world, but they do do some dark shit, but they usually do it in the name of breeding It's why female dolphins are like super slutty They're super slutty because they want to have because the male they can't recognize lines of paternity So they they don't necessarily know whether or not the baby's theirs So if they go up to a chick and she's got babies and they have never had sex with her the women The female dolphins won't have sex until their baby has reached like maturity until their baby can swim away It's like a few years I believe so when the males come up to females and they have babies and they haven't had sex with the male with the female They'll sometimes kill the babies so that she'll have sex with them again. Ah, it's pretty fucked up lines Do shit like that bears do shit like that, too. Yeah, that's the other thing that video with you in the line Yeah, but any case I'm going to jail for fucking good cause man, I used to get arrested for fucked up shit, man you know like drugs and Violence like in Canada. I got arrested for violence. What kind of yeah it was it was a salt like The and I actually ran away from cops and got away. It was on New Year's Eve of when 2003 I want to say it was it was 2003 turning into 2004 did this big show and Some fucking asshole got on stage and like snuck up like whatever and like sucker punched me while I was on stage you know like He fucking punched me and and so of course everybody grabs him and starts beating the shit out of him And and and I'm like and I'm like, you know on the microphone saying fucking kick his ass You know like, you know, I'm trying to like tell me it started out as an assault on me But by the time I was like now kick his ass and and they're beating him just all bloody like He impressed and lazy the big guy on jackass had his microphone. He was just like grading the dude's forehead off Like so it's kind of bloody from that and then they like they carried him You know the cat then they were carrying away and I like hauled off and kicked the guy, you know And so like you got in trouble for that. I did. Yeah, the cops were called and We just I think maybe like ran off the stage and just dipped, you know, like and got away, but then I was back You know, I'm you know my new tour in Fuck and I was in is in Calgary and I'm on the I'm on the The morning news promoting my shows they said have you ever been to Calgary before I said, oh, yeah Like I was I was here and we really beat the crap out of this guy and then we ran from cops and got away It's gonna let you in Canada. Well, I'm Canadian. I have a Canadian passport Yeah, I'm also American and I'm also British but what I am. My mom was born in Canada. My dad was born in America I was born in England. So I'm all three So all you have to do is be born in a country like that and you get a sense or your citizen Yeah, but then they allow you to be a citizen of America, too, correct? Yeah, you can't be you can't be deal You can't be a resident of more than one place, right? But you can be a citizen and all I gotta do is marry like a Australian chick I'm stoked you New Zealand would be even better. And so then you're like quadra, right? Citizen I'm triple national the thing was though Like I'm some bragging about like, yeah We beat up this guy and fucking ran from the cops and then when I left from that trip Hand over the passport like to the immigration guy like, you know going through the airport. He's like, yeah Go ahead and wait in this room And so the flag yes said the cops Came and arrested me and and they can I was in I mean they held me for like 12 hours or 10 hours or something And what they say when they arrested you They said there's a you have an outstanding warrant, which I think it's pretty funny It's like an outstanding warrant So why'd they let you go after 12 hours Because I paid bail like $10,000 bail. That's it. Yeah, you have to go back and go to court I mean it was a misdemeanor, you know, whatever like I got it sorted out from You know like whatever Canada doesn't play when it comes to assault though Like if you can't even play when it comes to anything man Like Canada is the fucking toughest country to get into I mean like everybody gets held up If you got a drunk driving arrest and you're not allowed in Yeah, I saw it. I don't know if there was that big of a deal But but whatever, you know, it was great because I was able to sort of you know Like clear away the wreckage in my past like for all the fucked up shit. I've done like I like to think I've made it All right, you know How about the dude that got spiked on his fucking head? Ah He's fine Special K through that 50 grand the first day that's a It's it's a weird thing like the Canadian thing like they live right next door to us So they gotta be real careful about like fugitives sneaking across the border. So they're super strict about any weirdness like Eddie Bravo a Long time ago got pulled over not even arrested for having a legal he used to work for a check cashing company So he used to take these bags of cash around with them and he had a concealed weapons permit And so he gets pulled over by the cops and he tells the cops officer. I work for a check cashing company I have a large sum of cash and I also have a concealed weapon and here's here's my permits here my paperwork And so they take him out of the car the handcuff him check his paperwork They go everything seems in order you're free to go and they let him go So every time he goes to Canada they bring up that every time still on his records I'm still on his record still on his record and wasn't even an arrest he put they pulled him over They checked but when involves a gun if it involves anything where you large amounts of cash Everybody's pretty uptight about but it was it was all legit. It was he worked for a check cashing company So he had a total 100% iron cloud excuse they let him out I mean he never brought him to jail. They let him go yeah, but still every time he goes to Canada They check on Kevin James had a real hard time because Kevin James got in a street fight Like in like high school or college or something like that and got arrested no conviction not nothing But every time he would go to Canada like when before your famous We do the Montreal Comedy Festival together every time we go to Canada. They'd fuck with him You know Australia is the same way man Australia is Like maybe even harder to get into than Canada and like man And I'm not Australian so when I when I go to Australia I have to Like fill like a with my visa application. I have to submit My entire criminal record like my whole history, and it's like so long. It's hilarious like You know I mean there's even a bunch of stuff I didn't even mention like you know like being arrested all over the states and stuff nothing was really How many times you've been arrested ah There's one in in Philadelphia like public urination was like I mean kind of mellows more like funny than anything and Yeah, there's my first drunk driving. You should have like those like four lines and a stripe for five Like counting off the days in prison wait Like that last year Like you know like a year and a half ago or something. I did a whole Australia tour and you know I was I was like Putting it all together And I made like a YouTube video like like actually going through my whole like official thing like with all the paperwork You know my criminal like my criminal past or whatever and at the same time to the The Australian tour promoter wanted Need to have a name for my tour You know like oh, we like to have you know a name for the tour and so I'm going through my whole Arrest history and so I told him yeah, man. It's steve-o guilty as charged You know and so that's been the name of my tour for like a year and a half You know like if anybody wants to know the name of it That's what it is every time and now and then why I'm so excited to be here today is because In like less than three weeks in Austin, Texas I'm taping my first comedy special for Showtime, and it's of course called Steve-o guilty as charged Where are you taping it at the Paramount Theatre in Austin, Texas? It's a good spot. I've been there. I do it So it's so fucking I mean I just love Texas I love Texas I love Texas so much, and it's the one place that I haven't been to with it with this tour So it's like a fresh fresh crowd. You know and What are you doing on tour? Are you doing straight stand-up? Are you doing? It's it's like a one-man show or like It's totally stand-up. It's totally stories and like on story points throughout the show like I do like Super fucked up stunts. You know like what like I mean when I come in like I'm gonna like Blast fucking like a 12-pack of soda cans on my head. You know like until they're all like busted open what yeah I'll break up like you just take the can and it's not open and you just fucking keep smashing in your head And it's gonna be so dope with all the lights You know like all the lights and when once it breaks It's like spraying like super fucking a lot. You know and so like it looked out man I'll break like at least six of them and And then whatever like you know look so healthy for someone who's done so much Your body like you walk normal yeah, you seem to be your voice a little raspy, but everything's coming out good Well, thanks. Come out smooth. I appreciate it, dude But yeah, then like whatever you know at the top of my show I'm like you know I got some crowd work and stuff like and I don't even waste any time before I start fucking bagging on Carlos Mencia In your crowd work well yeah because like all I pulled out like I'm one of my Bits is that you know like I'll pull the the crowd about You know ladies clap if you've ever received a dick pic from someone you know It's like really like you know it just it's like one of my like you know best like Crowdwork bits and you know after I get done like with all like the back and forth with you know It's just really fucking funny to pull like you know now like what kind of dick pics did you get like from guys? That you weren't hooking up with you know like now clap if you got a dick pic from a guy That you were not hooking up with at all and like less But still a ton of chicks clapping came now I had to clap really loud if you went on to have sex with that guy. It's just crickets you know I like so it doesn't work You know and then I have to tell him like you know and I just saw this thing recently and so I just started doing It like um I say uh you know I saw this funny thing online about dick pics, and it was so funny I stole it you know it was one of these memes where a girl saying Receiving a dick pic from a guy is just like her cat bringing her a dead mouse She says she says I can see that you are very proud But I'm not touching it That's fucking fun and people will like actually clap you know and I say and I said every time I'm like oh my god. I can't fucking like this floors me getting applause for a joke I told you I stole I said I fucking love this so much I decided I'm gonna do a whole fucking bit just out of jokes. I stole I call it the Carlos Mency a bit And so that I just said really quick because I don't like to fuck in I don't even I'm not even comfortable doing this But I'm like I'll tell you two jokes when you've heard of when you haven't but I stole them both Did you hear what Greg Fitzsimmons is doing? Yeah, I don't want to ruin it I want people to come to Austin so much because like normally I do comedy clubs You know and I sell the lines sharing my tickets like once I get there You know I don't do a lot of advanced tickets So I show up and I get on the radio and people are like always here And then I do great you know like I do really well But in this case for and it's November 21st this month at the Paramount Theatre in Austin Like I don't have the luxury of waiting to get there to fucking sell tickets because it's a fucking Showtime comedy special You have that place sold the fuck out. What's the date? November 21st dude. We'll tweet the shit out of it. Oh, dude. I'm so stoked man. Thank you Yeah, November 21st Paramount Theatre. You can like find it at steve-o.com. We'll tweet it. We'll tweet it We'll tweet it after the show is over yeah And I know like a million people are listening we put in the YouTube notes that he'll be there, okay? We'll put in the YouTube notes I appreciate it Yeah, and It's gonna be a bunch of people want to see you smash soda can on your head Oh, dude, you better I used to do it like if I used to do it like on comedy clubs like six times a week Oh, you know I would break like you know like like one two or three and But the thing is I would fucking wake up in the morning, and I'd fucking like get a guy to bed I'm walking like fucking diagonally I'm like my whole fucking equilibrium was off And I was like I've got to stop hitting myself in the fucking head But yet you're gonna do it again. I'm gonna do it. Yeah, that's only two shows I Was doing it like all the time, so you're doing it like Wednesday Thursday Right right right right exactly by time Sunday Totally yeah, but yeah, so in any case. I'll be smashing the cans I do like that you know I've got like a couple bits like with the crowd work And then the fucking you know by the time I'll even tell you the jokes I fucking think they're funny the ones I stole for the Carlos Menci a bit, but if you do that then the people you're right You're right. Yeah, there's a lot of you're listening. Thank you Joe. They listen they remember they write shit down Yeah, thank you Joe, but um but then like you know after after that then let's say okay now I'm gonna really get into it, and so it's sort of like I start off You know addressing like how people have asked me for so long like how did I get into it? How did the jackass shit start and you know I give like a super condensed like super hilarious? like sort of fucking Genesis story of like you know starting with like me in high school and getting caught in dealing drugs and like and You know like going to college and just fucking up royally I mean I've fucked up royally at in college and You have to do in college. It was so bad well within two weeks of class starting my freshman year I was I was on final disciplinary probation which is fucking impressive two weeks Yeah, I got my room rated like yeah, they found on Alcohol and weed and shit and so like you know so they they'd be located me to another fucking dorm You know they're like you were on final disciplinary probation and like I Climbed up like that broke out a window and climbed onto the roof And you know client there's a radio tower on top of the roof And I climbed up that and someone spotted me from the ground and and so the cops came on the roof and they kicked me out of the dorms and I was failing the fuck out of my classes and And then I just got in a van with this dude and just took off without even withdrawing so I got So I got gotten a van with this dude Yes, I got I got I failed out I got kicked out and I dropped out oh my god, which I call overachieving Mouthful I know and like that's the thing it's like you know people are like when I was leaving the University of Miami It's like well What are you gonna do now, and I'm like I'm gonna fucking videotape fucked up shit I'm gonna I'm gonna be when you was this 93 so you had this idea in 93 Yeah, I was and even then I was like man like I had like special fucking skills You know like I had I could like I was really fucking good at drinking bong water I didn't care how murky it was If you live a whole life that never comes out of your mouth you live a good life right and like I was like You know it was Miami So I was like super Like I was like blow off class and I'd be like practicing jumping on the diving boards at the at the pool And I'm like I'm never gonna be a diver But if I jump strictly off of like roofs of like apartment buildings and shit into shallow pools Then it's badass, so I was like I'm pretty good at that Oh my god, and then like my specialty was like setting myself on fire with like hairspray and rubbing alcohol And so at the point where I'm not even like fucking Five minutes into the show at this point and then I had to say my specialty was setting myself on fire with hairspray And rubbing alcohol so I'm gonna at that point demonstrate Like it's gonna do like that at a in the theater They let you do I used to do in comedy clubs all the time I kept getting so hurt like I just fucking stop you know like like cuz cuz what I do is like I'm gonna do like kind of deluxe version for this one like I'm gonna start with like a can of hairspray I'm gonna like spray my like all the hair on my head like heavily with the hairspray I'm gonna climb on top of a table on the stage and Douse my arm with rubbing alcohol fill my mouth with lamp oil I'm gonna click I'm gonna click a lighter and light my arm on fire like just the rubbing alcohol on my skin So my trail all the way up to your hair well like a drop Well like from when I pour it like on the table there'll be a puddle and so like a drop will stay on fire Probably and then so the table will be on fire my arms on fire and then like so I'm gonna use my arm as a torch when I do a front flip standing on top of the table and Simultaneously as I do the front flip blow a fireball like off of my arm Like which is a huge lamp lamp oil goes crazy So like the lamp oil and as I'm flipping for like the front flip my head like everything just goes right through the fire So when I crash on the table on my back now my heads on fire And so then I get get up and like kind of like like flail around the stage with my head on fire and my buddy comes Running out with a mouthful of lamp oil and he comes around to me and he uses my head as a torch and just You know blows a fucking huge fireball off of my head and and then like we'll figure out how to put me out You know then we'll figure it out right right I mean, maybe he'll have like a towel or something because I've gotten like a towel. Yeah No, I mean like I wouldn't do that I'll go like my goal will be to use my bare hands, but the thing is like I don't know where I know that you're gonna Do this. Oh, no. Oh fuck dude. Don't Don't tell them yeah, oh my god, I didn't think about Think about it. Well, I mean it's a fucking just theater Like I thought it didn't occur to me that they wouldn't find out that I was gonna do it until I already did it A million plus people didn't hear this Someone's gonna tell them. All right. Well, then fucking I better figure it out I've done I've done in the fucking thousand places. Have you ever let anybody know beforehand on a podcast? Yes, I feel like a fucking flashback from Calgary It's like all the times you've hit yourself in the head with sodas you've knocked out they use a Segment of your brain that's just like a bad fuse not people figure it out Worries like maybe we'll have like a bunch of people with fire extinguisher Yes, you would definitely have a bunch of people Will let the fucking fire marshal know or whatever do it like this is so important man I have to do it. Aren't you scared that like maybe you get really injured and you can't finish? I mean like One time I burned my neck really bad and It hurts but it's not gonna like stop me, you know Wow, like half the rest of your show could be you looking, you know, like a steam coming off your face That'll be a real problem It's like that's part of the fun. Yeah, right I'm being all fucked up. Yeah. I mean, I think it's whatever. I mean the Crazy the better, you know, like I'm in this to fucking really make an impression Whatever like it's it it's gonna it's gonna go on and there's just gonna be like it's sort of this kind of a one-man show But the thing is like I it's also like fully stand-up man. I've been on tour doing stand-up for five years now Yeah, I remember when you first started doing I was like that's it Cuz you first started doing it like right around the time we were getting sober, right? I had been sober for like two years when I really dove into it and That was I wasn't sober yet when I first started. Oh you weren't yeah first time I tried it was 2006 Oh, okay. So you took a break and then came back. Yeah, I just dabbled in it Heavy until I'd been sober for a couple years, but that's pretty much what you do now pretty much Yeah, now is being sober does that fuck with your ability to do a lot of these crazy stunts? well, obviously not, you know, I would say that I Mean if you're like sober like, you know like Deliberately hurting yourself isn't necessarily easier But it's like I never did that because you know Because I was wasted and did it because I'm an attention whore and sober or not take away the drugs and alcohol I'm still an attention whore You know, but you embrace that fuck. Yeah, do you why do you think I have a fucking tattoo of myself on my back? You know, like everybody's favorite topic of conversation is themselves I'm just like I think that's hilarious and I'm cool admitting it But it just seems like if you were fucked up on drugs and you made this career of like getting hammered and and going out And doing wild crazy stunts that got you injured and then you cut out the getting fucked up part, right? But you're still injuring yourself. Well, I mean injuring myself isn't as like Isn't as much of it, you know, I mean sure I'll still do it. I don't care You know, what's the most injured you've ever gotten? I Threw myself off of a balcony at the University of Miami After I dropped out and then I came back and just lived there even though I wasn't allowed to and there's like a keg party and I was trying to like Impress this fat chick and I was on the balcony But I had taken too many pills and drank too much booze and I'm telling this girl this was in I think it was January of 1995 and I'm telling this girl I said I'm gonna be like a fucking super rad stuntman and we're on the second floor balcony I tell her like, you know, like okay, like I'm gonna be like this fucking gnarly stuntman like picture this like imagine like Like there's like a fight on the balcony You're right and like I get punched and I'm like pretending I get punched and I just throw myself off the balcony Now I used to throw myself off of balconies all the time But not when I was that fucked up and not when I was trying to pretend that I had been punched And so I'm like holding my whole game plan where like the way I would do it. I did did it different I didn't catch the bottom With my hand and then let myself go I just spun over the railing and so I spun over the railing and landed on my fucking face On the bottom and I broke I burn I have the cat scans. They're so gnarly like I broke my my cheekbone I broke 17th. I had ten stitches in my chin a concussion and a broken wrist and And that's actually pretty good Considering you fell onto one concrete and I was landing that landed there and I was fucking face down From where I from where I needed the ten stitches. I had like a pool of blood like growing. I was faced down in it I'm not even fucking twitching a finger at all I'm just like there's just blood pooling, you know, and and I'm not moving and everyone's like thinks I'm probably dead But my buddies were like they're like man if he's not dead he's gonna need that weed in his pocket Had likes I had like kind weed, you know They'd like fucking proper good weed in one pocket and like swag weed in the other and and they uh, You know pulled it all pulled it out and and and in the morning I knew my mom was like I didn't remember landing like I don't remember anything, you know, and they called the ambulance whatever that came and And And then in the morning like I woke up and I was so fucked up It was unbelievable, but I knew my mom was on a cruise ship in like the Caribbean But I but I told him I said ah, I need to call my mom and they said of course But what I did is I called my buddies down at the University of Miami I said hey, I'm gonna fucking leave out the fucking emergency room Entrance right now come scoop me up. I broke out of the hospital in my in my gown And they came and picked me up and I went back to the spot and I stood Like right over like the pool of blood and I tried to pound a beer But I couldn't because it hurt too bad And I couldn't eat or anything and I was like like my sinuses would like fill with blood and then I would like Hock it, you know Like you hawk a loogie and I and then spit it out and it was just blood loogies for like two weeks I tried to eat applesauce and I couldn't even fucking eat applesauce because I was so busted up And so the applesauce a bowl of applesauce sat next to my bed just with blood loogies in it I just used it as a spitter Yeah, and I had like I had I broke my wrist too and so I had The cast on my wrist for like whatever you have it on for six weeks And my mom like sort of felt bad for me because my I broke seven teeth and so my fucking all my front teeth are All busted out and she knew I was a fuckup, you know, which teeth like I was like my Front one of my front ones and then there was one that didn't break One on the other side of that one did break so it looked extra bad right and And my mom like felt bad for me She like sort of had like, you know, she felt bad for me, you know, she's sort of an enabler too So she said a dentist appointment for me to get my teeth fixed You know like and she's gonna pay for it and I still got the cast on my wrist and and the night before the fucking dentist appointment where I'm gonna get my teeth fixed is when I get fucking arrested for my first drunk driving you know and like and so they fucking take me into Miami-Dade fucking County Jail and I'm in the holding cell there and and one of the fucking Like correctional officers in the jail except my fucking cast and says that cast is a potential Weapon, you know like say like god like if I get into a fight in the holding cell now I'm gonna have an unfair advantage because I've got this cast on my arm So they're like you can't be in this fucking holding cell. You have to go in to this gnarly fucking like Crazy fucking you know and sell with like all the people are in here for the longest stretch of time Oh God, you know and then this is the first thing I had to do Was go and take a foot get naked and take a fucking shower in the back of this big cell with all these bunk beds And all these fucking creepy assholes and I'm like this sucks man I called my mom and I was like mom, you know like, you know, I'm in jail, you know, and she's like she's like What you know, like she says I'm not bailing you out unless you go door to door straight to rehab and I'm like, okay so I went to rehab like in 1995 and and I remember these fucking guys like that one of the counselors says like yeah, you know like 95% of all alcoholics like die drunk of causes related directly to alcohol is I mean Oh like most people like they don't get sober, you know Like and I'm sitting there thinking man this guy's telling me like if I'd like really wanted to get sober I got a 5% chance. I'm like fuck that, you know So I stayed loaded I just resigned myself to being loaded forever and and it wasn't until like 13 years later I've suddenly got so him saying that so to me fucking wasted But what it did really what it what it did was it just made me not like Get sober until I was really ready, you know, I think what made you really ready Well, I mean fuck I got like Knoxville pulled an intervention on me and like that's when you know, you fucked up I know Yeah, you know you got a problem when that's your interventionist What was going on that he had a step in well I had this like fucking massive mass email thing and I was like broadcasting my downward spiral and like fucking Real time to like, you know 200 the most like, you know influential fucking people in the entertainment industry who's who had the misfortunate of giving me their info, you know and it was just like more fucked up and it's kept getting worse and worse and and And I got arrested for like, you know felony cocaine possession. There was another one fucking arrests What's felony cocaine possession? You have a well, there's no such thing as misdemeanor cocaine Not even like a little bit. No, you got a little it's a felony. Yeah But I got a victim I got you know arrested, you know This is when I had like my neighbor in this apartment building I lived in was always calling the cops because I deserved it Like he was a lawyer and I'm like an asshole and I'm always making all this noise So the cops are always coming but typically they would get to my apartment and they'd be stoked They'd be like, oh, no way Steve. Oh cool, man. Have a good night. And so like they would so they would take off, you know they would Play nights me to go. Yeah, but this guy's just fucking his life was was misery Because me but the thing was that like because I was such a fucking You know loaded asshole. I'm sorry fucking drugs and fucking being wasted I was just became particularly mad at him for always calling the cops on me So like I'd like fucking take like a baseball bat like pound his door or whatever like fuck you call the cops, you know Like I know and and I was like I was in pound I was like, you know, I was like pounding on the wall that separated our apartments likes all the time It's like how do you like that fucker? You know, how do you like that and I pounded on the wall so hard that I fucking actually pounded a hole through The wall where I'm looking into his apartment, you know, and see his apartment you Well, the thing was that I pounded enough and then I took a broomstick and fucking Pounding down until I got through you know, so now he calls the the cops and they actually have to arrest me for for For whatever fucking vandalism, you know, like it was a misdemeanor But I've now vandalized his property by pounding through the wall So they come to arrest me and this time it doesn't matter if they're stoked or whatever like, you know And I'm so blown out on fucking ketamine and I don't know what's going on and I got fucking Bag of cocaine in my pocket and like and I'm and I open up the door like I've got I'm shirtless I have no shoes on and a bag of cocaine in my pocket and I'm out of my mind and they're like, hey we're taking me into jail because we have to arrest you for for vandalism and Like it's gonna be cold and so I like as a courtesy like you can go in there and put on a shirt and put on Some shoes and I'm like fucking shirt and fuck sir. She's Meanwhile that would have been like the perfect opportunity for me to go in take the bag of cocaine out of my pocket And I put on you know, like it was a perfect opportunity, but I'm like fuck that Yeah, so they take me to jail with no shirt no shoes and a fucking and I get rear They go through your property, you know that when they process you into jail And so they pull out a bag of cocaine and they they re arrest me at the jail. Oh my god So I'm in there for like three days or something and it's on the news and then the apartment buildings fucking over me Even though I rented four apartments in the building. Why did you rent one was a skate park? One was a skate park one was like sort of like my my my buddies I don't when my one guy edited my videos and stuff. It was kind of an office I had this like assistant chick. It was such a fucking joke I mean her job was just to tell people that she couldn't find me and And constantly change my flights because I always miss my flights, you know She was like travel agent at best but I buy had an apartment for and then I had my bachelor pad So it was four and still the fucking apartments like get the fuck out When you're renting four apartments and then you still get evicted like that's when you know, you fucked up Well, especially when one of them was a skate park, right? I know but it was it was like it was like neck then the next to it on one side Was a fucking? Like Russian hooker operation. Oh, so they weren't complaining, you know, they're dudes coming in to fuck these hookers all day long Where did you live? I'm specific right across the street Long time ago, but it was right across the street from rock and roll Ralph's Oh right in the midst Yeah, I mean right on the part of Sunset Boulevard To live in the lawyers living there. I mean shady I don't know that I ever actually met him like probably I mean yelling like through the door and like whatever maybe like a Something I wouldn't have recognized. Do you feel like you want to go back and apologize to him? I tried did I try I actually had his email and You know, I reached out to him and I said hey like it would mean a lot to me if like we could meet up and you Know and he just declined so I had to respect that, you know, but yeah that he declined in an email He declined he declined to meet me Yeah So I just sort of like when you're in that situation you want to go through and make things right, right? You had to respect that, you know, you can't like be persistent so then so to make it right to that guy Like, you know, it's called a living amends where I sort of I'm not gonna do that to anybody else And this is a part of thing about rehab is just like yeah Of course, you know like I mean it's basically a thing about life, you know but um But something that they ask you to do like when you're you you're going to rehab there Right, it would be considered step 9 of the 12 steps, you know, we made direct amends Wherever possible except when to do so would enter them or others So yeah So that's part of the deal and now I get finally get out of jail and I come back and there's a fucking eviction Notice on my on my door, you know, like get the fuck out within three days. Oh, actually that there was that Yeah, I got an end like I had all drugs in my apartment So like I get back and like there's the eviction notice But like I just go straight for like the vials of ketamine I had like two or three more vials of ketamine. I cooked them up in the microwave, you know, I Went digging through cook them up in the mic. How do you how do you handle ketamine? Well, I mean it's best I never just like injected shit I just never got that far but you just cook it in the microwave and it evaporates like the maybe water I don't know and you're left with like the the plate It's like crusted to the plate and then you scrape it up with like a card and then what you do with that Snored it snored it. Yeah. No, how did you how'd you get started on ketamine? Cuz ketamine is like I love that shit, dude I love dude like that was my favorite man. You know, I mean first time I tried it I don't think so Neil Brennan. He's a co-creator of the Sproul show stand-up comic funny guy He's been taking ketamine treatments for depression. Oh my god. It's one of the more recent one of the more Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's one of the more recent treatments for depression That they've been well because it resets the way you any intense psychedelic experience and ketamine You know, even though it's a tranquilizer is thought of as a pretty intense It's basically a pharmaceutical PCP Really? That's how you look at it. Yeah But did you have like out about experiences or any experiences where you felt like you went into another dimension and trip You know the K hole experience some of the experiences I had with ketamine like I per se I got We depth perception like way fucking distillates like some fear and loathing shit, you know Like you're not like, you know about like I've been I remember like Like my fucking feet are like 30 feet away Remember one time I was in a in a hotel room in London This was like with just way too much of the shit and like and at one point the whole hotel room just started free-falling I mean well, nothing like looking up like rather than like I could actually see like a Like kind of an elevator shaft type deal that it was falling through You know, like it was just the hotel room started free-falling I'm like just thinking whoa, and I remember being so stoked. I was thinking I remember thinking Jim Morrison doesn't have shit on me Like I'm so good at being a drug addict like Whatever, you know, but um, so yeah, I'm cooking up the ketamine and whatever and I packed is it come But is it coming a liquid form? So it's initially a while where you would stick a needle and shoot a cat usually sure I think horse as much. Yeah horse. Uh-huh. I mean PCB started out as an anesthetic That was the idea for it. But yeah within like two hours of being of walking out of jail. I Have my buddy videotaping me. I'm jumping up and down on the roof of a parked car Screaming God is the Sun And like and like this And and like this squad of like security guards that comes over and like, you know, what's going on, you know Like I mean, it's amazing that I didn't go right back into jail for another Pockets full of drugs, you know and so then but I mean and I did that bender lasted for I don't know like maybe 24 hours And now I've got you know, my three days is is like I've got one more day I got to be out of the apartment. So I send to the mass email list I'm trying to say hey, you know like and with all the jackass guys on it, but of course 200 like high-power people in Hollywood need to know this that like hey Knox on guys, you know, I've I gotta be out of my apartment tomorrow and I'm not fucking leaving my apartment I don't want to fucking leave here until I jump out of my bedroom window, you know, which would be like a 25 foot Drop onto the sidewalk and I need you guys to bring something for me to land on preferably a hot tub I would like put a hot tub like and and cannonball into it out of my bedroom window and and In my sliding glass door in the living room I could pull it open and I wanted to put it like a ramp in the living room and ride a motorcycle Like often ramp through the sliding glass door and jump onto the roof of the imagine if you own the department Makes fun of me about the what the sliding glass door then because he's like just like a three-foot gap to the building Next door like that part was a gimme. Yeah, but uh, so I said like not I see you guys come over bring the fucking camera This is we're gonna fucking start filming like jackass three and like, you know, get over here come on man before I leave we're gonna do my eviction party stunts and And so basically I scheduled my own intervention Knox I'll reach out to dr. Drew who was on the list the email list He's like his even Steve was like about to die and dr. Drew said yeah, you're right You know, he said get over there and fucking if you got a time up put him in the trunk like Take him to the hospital Oh, I know the other part I said if you don't bring anything for me to land on I'm fucking jumping anyway I promise I'm ready to die. So they printed that up It was like I'm me threatening my own life Which qualified me for the 5150 law where you can lock someone into a psychiatric ward Wow, so they came over to for my intervention and and like they're like We're it wasn't like the kind of intervention where like where they ask if you're willing to accept help, you know It's like like we're taking you to the psych ward This is what's gonna happen if you don't like it We're gonna kick your ass and take you anyway So they take me to the psych ward for the 72 hour hold which is like, you know, everybody's been on that You know Britney Spears are like, you know the whole deal but the thing was when we got there I was like spitting on people I was just like not fucking cool and like I was trying to like throw shit around and you know Like I'm like when I remember cuz what I thought I was gonna like calmly explain that it was misunderstanding and be out of there but like what happened was I They had the emails printed out where I'm like saying I'm ready to die You know and so like they had me I wasn't talking my way out of it once I realized I wasn't getting out of it, then I I'm like fuck, you know Like I would go to take a chair and throw it and like I get fucking tackled by like these orderly dudes you know and they slammed me onto this fucking like stretch her like bed thing with straps on it and Like someone jabs a needle in my butt cheek and then I just straight took a nap Like that Thor is eating shit man, like it's gnarly man. I just held you down and whacked you with that Yeah, they just held me down and fucking jammed my butt cheek and I was out dude And then I woke up from my nap and and I'm in it was so funny to tie down It was at Cedar Sinai the Thallians, you know, like I what's that mean Thallians was just the mental health God didn't like an invasion or whatever. So like they have They've got they had two wings of the of the psych ward there like one like they've got the standard issue harmful to yourself Or others, you know like committed for the involuntary psychiatric hold then they've got the something else like the extraordinarily you know like The extraordinarily qualifying individuals, you know, and that's you the something else wing Yeah, so so they had me on the something else wing and like whoa Yeah, and like my roommate was like fucking like like hiding in the closet from like fucking demons Oh, dude, it was I mean, I I was been hearing voices for like a couple years, you know But nothing like this guy Oh, dude, you're the best Angels and demons, you know, like some of them would tell me like you're worthless He needed to die and I would be like trying to suffocate myself to death, you know, really? Well, yeah I mean not like with anything. I'm just holding my breath That was that like I Woke right, right? But that was the whole thing was I was hearing voices because I was huffing so much nitrous oxide and while while While you're doing ketamine while I was doing cocaine I never smoked this joint just fucking relax You make me feel so much better about myself I used to watch I used to watch interventions that I could feel better Yeah, I'm worried about your health more than I'm worried about like you overdosing. I'm worried you're over. It's a slow Deterioration of your fiber. Yeah, like the stuff that keeps you together. You're talking to me or I'm fine now I Great now. I feel like I just worked out Yeah, I mean like they said it's not I'm in there something else word like people are like that not people one guy I remember one guy like a shit on the fucking ground and was like breakdancing in it like trying to like I Mean it sounds like I'm making it up. I swear I'm not dude. He was his goal was to like smeared around As much as he could this is in the room with you. No, no that was in the hallway In the hall, it was another dude his breakdancing on his own shit I mean it looked like his breakdancing, but he was like he took a shit and he was trying to smear it around as much as he Could it just looked like it was breakdancing And because I was so Because I was so belligerent I Was so belligerent they changed my status from 5150 to 5250 Which meant they like like 5150 is three days 5250 is two weeks So they had me for two weeks and like after like four days then they moved me over to the to the regular psych ward and like I was in there and This guy who is like a fucking he says he's a heroin addict and he's a patient and Like he's got this book about alcoholism And he's like dude I you have you really like this book can really help you like you need this book and I'm like Why is a fucking heroin addict giving me a book about alcoholism? When we're both like on suicide watching a psych ward Like what's the deal and I was like at the point I was like I'm like dude I can't I can't get sober. I couldn't you know I was I honestly felt like Like neither felt like I mean like just core belief You know that like if I could have ever gotten sober like I was past that point I was too far down the line I was right off a lost cause and like so I just you know like from when the fucking first time I was in rehab You know like there's like there's no chance And so like one night like I couldn't sleep and I like some just open this fucking stupid book like not to find a solution But straight up to kill time you know that's all I'm trying to do and I'm reading it and talking about like You know like hopeless alcoholics determined to die and this and that and then like they They become like you know they get better or whatever you know they become like the finest men You could meet and I'm like just remember reading and thinking like dude What it's saying is like that the more hopeless the more fucked up you are the better the chances for recovery Which is actually really fully why is that because if you have like any inkling like that like you can manage it that you could Get better that you could stop on your own, and you're just straight up. Not a candidate That's the rock-bottom theory pretty much And it's it's it's true like if if you feel like you got it or it's not that big of a deal Because like you're fine Right right that's right. He's fun. He likes step one We admitted we were powerless over alcohol You know or drugs or whatever the case may be like like like and that like that I successfully did you know like I can't do it I'm fucking powerless and so that's like the first step that's like the prerequisite And so it's like I don't know and then these guys come in and talk about alcoholism And I wouldn't have fucking ever listen to a word They said but they like you know, but I was locked up in a psych ward And so I did and I'm like you know thinking there's nothing I could do about it But they told their stories and how they lived and I'm like oh well these guys Can do it you know and and so I was just like my life is a fucking mess I was in the psych ward long enough to be like okay my life's a fucking mess I like it's time and I went to rehab and you know like and so you've been clean from Seven and a half years just from that moment on from the Wow and there's been any moments where you're tempted to go off the wagon Yeah, I mean sure but like not like I went from there like door-to-door into like a rehab You know and I remember like because I knew from the fucking back in the day like the whole 95 Percent of alcoholics don't get sober Like the guy who is in charge of the rehab and back then it was dr. Drew Like he was the the chemical dependency director of this hospital in Pasadena And and I was nice place to go prosthena. Yeah, and I I told you I said I said hey man You know I'm like right out fresh out of the psych ward like you know and I was such a fucking character I was like and I'm like dude. I know that like I know that You know the odds are not in my fucking favor I know like I don't want to waste my time if I'm gonna do this I want to get it right So I told you however long you recommend that I? Know that I stay here. I want to stay significantly longer Cuz I want to give myself like you know I want to give myself an advantage He said that's great You know but like don't stay here more than 30 days if you're really serious go into like a sober living You know like a halfway house kind of a deal and and so I did man I did everything those fucking people told me I did like All the fucking recovery shit that they talk about I did it all And I went that fucking sober living and I stayed there until I had to two full years of sobriety I was filming where you stayed in sober living for two years Well, I was bouncing around treatment Like for six months You know because I cuz I was having a tough time with it I just stayed in fucking treatment when you say bouncing around treatment Well, I did 30 days there Then I went into like a sober living that doubled it was like it was like sort of mid-level care So like I was free to go at night as long as I was home by curfew But all day long like we had all of our little groups and like like you know Structured rehab activities how much is all this shit cost? It's gonna be expensive It was stupid like the 30 days was like a hundred grand. Oh my god, what the fuck? So pay for all this I paid for it with my money Oh my god, so just burning through your savings while you're in there God so six months it's better than the fucking three hundred three hundred thousand dollars. I spent on fucking suing like my People I knew I was gonna get nothing out of 300 grand suing people that you knew you were gonna get nothing out of I got like my back catalog these guys Oh, I had a like distribution deal with I got my back catalog of DVDs, but whatever that's not worth anything It was just a straight resentment fuck. Oh, I see I just went through I just wanted to fuck their lives up Yeah, I know that and I did it Rehab was a better investment. Yeah So so while you're in there are you working hell no I'm not fucking burned off my bridges man, you know I mean we weren't doing anything with jackass and like anything else I had going on like I had a TV show that which was really Like did well in the ratings But I was such a fucking nightmare that they canceled it just on the grounds that they did not want to fuck with me Wow, I had the spot right after Monday Night Raw the wrestling on the USA Network Wow I came on immediately after and I kept like a fucking whopping percentage of their viewers name is show dr. Steve. Oh I went around in a fucking modified ambulance with a hot chick and a fucking 365 pound black like football player driver, dude Just trying to dewisify America one was he at a time? You know, are you trying to get them to do I would accept like its submissions where people would be like dr. Steve I need your help like I you know, I'm a wussy like this is my unique case and I would prescribe for them some kind of like outrageous like Jackass bullshit to make them come out of their shell or like it was good man Like I did a great job problem was as soon as the camera stopped rolling. I fell off of the radar except for my Like It was with Buna memory the production company like I'd be started like openly attacking like John Murray why on my for 200 people Because he wasn't even like pay somebody's one of my buddies something I wanted them to get paid for which they didn't warn obligated to fucking pay in the first place But I'm trying to ruin his Reputation with like all these, you know on my fucking crazy email list And that was what killed that was what killed the show despite the fact that it was like number one in its fucking time slot Oh my god So I didn't have that fucking to get to distract me from my recovery So you are doing you're just doing nothing recovery. I was doing nothing. So how do you spend your days like when you're doing that? Well, I mean when you're in rehab rehab, like you got like fucking structured shit all day long What was I mean? What do you do? I mean like different kind of groups like they take you out to various kinds of meetings, you know, like You got like fucking like little therapy bits like You know whatever it's basically like summer camp. It's just everything is geared towards teaching how to stay sober All day long. Yeah. Well, how much can they teach you about staying? So I'm confused It is like there's there's a lot and I mean a lot of it's redundant. Yeah, but it means going on for two years Oh, no, no This is the first 30 days. I'm talking about the first 30. So the first 30 days is like teaching you like coping mechanisms Yeah, and mostly just sort of keeping you like in a safe environment Keeping you occupied and drilling into your head that you can do this and right and like 30 days isn't gonna do shit for anybody because it's such a slow process, you know, but uh Like it was great for me to stay and sort of in that environment for two years Because because you know, then I'm like undisciplined motherfucker, you know by the end of it I was so like used to like being up by 9 a.m With my bed made like pissing into fucking plastic cups like at random, you know Twice a week like scrubbing the toilet when it's my turn to scrub the toilet, you know, like keeping everything You know and and and I did that when I'm filming jackass 3d I'm like, oh, yeah Like I gotta go fucking get launched into the fucking sky and a porta-potty full of dog shit You know, I might be a little bit late for curfew tonight, you know, like whatever, you know, like What's curfew with time? The weekdays it was 10 and then on the weekends it was 11 or 12 What or maybe no, I think it was 11 on the weekdays and 12 on the weekend I think it's hilarious that after a certain time of night like they think you're just gonna get wacky Well, I mean whatever can't stay up. You can't go to a diner. You know what dude? It saved my life, man It's like I can save my life big time and I'm so fucking stoked about it. So just the the the Schedule the rigid schedule the routine. Yeah the structure man the structure and I enjoyed in there. Did you have fun? Did you meet nice people? I mean I Remember it pretty well My roommate was cool and like he snored which was like the fucking greatest thing ever because I knew when it was cool to jack off You know You know, it's like the sweet sounds of snoring But if he's snoring it's totally cool Right. Yeah, and while he's fake snoring with one eye open watching you beat up and he's joining him Like I mean that helped a lot if he if he didn't snore I would have had a tougher time So are you allowed to have relationships were in there? Are you supposed to like stare clear anything that can sort of any distract you? I mean, there's no like hard and fast rule about that Like they say like avoid getting in a relationship in your first year. I got it first year. Yeah, I got into a relationship I mean, I like what if you find like the perfect girl? Yeah, I mean it happens. Sorry bitch Working on my sobriety, right it happens, you know, but like there's just not like, you know Like relationships gone sideways is like the number one fucking thing that makes people get loaded. Oh Right that makes sense. Yeah, so it's good that like kind of like, you know, just worry about You know your sobriety But I had seven months and I got in a relationship with the chick who had like one year and it was cool You know, like we were like last for like 10 months So when you're in there you're in there for 30 days This is the hardcore version and then you go from the 30 days to like a living situation Situation and now how is that? Is that like a house? Like how's that work? It was like an apartment complex that point so it's an apart. You got your own apartment then Yeah, but I have a park no skate park. Yeah That was my thing. I was a man. I used to have fucking four apartments in one building now. I got four dudes and one apartment So you had to live with other people? You know, there's two two-bedroom apartment guys in each room what yeah, and that was the deal Why is that the deal because they want to make sure you're not alone by yourself? Do deviation? Yes. I mean like perhaps, you know, I guess that's kind of the deal But like now what happened there like and and we would have groups from like, you know Eight or nine in the morning until two in the afternoon and then you're free to go and I would be like Skateboarding or whatever like trying to film this Wacky shit or whatever, you know, like I didn't do like much like like in a professional sense And I was working with you know, I was working on all this like 12-step shit, you know so like I get like, you know, we do like the Searching and fearless moral inventory where like we go through like, you know Basically, like what have we done that like that we feel like we make a list of resentments We make a list of fears and we make a list of shit. We feel guilty about it's basically how it works And like, you know, I started off with just the shit I felt guilty about and I'm like, oh like I was fine I just basically wrote a list of like the shit that I felt like, you know the most terrible about and when when I went through it like and this is like Totally if anyone's in recovery like avoid like making them a system this mistake I treated it like I was just like You know putting myself on trial for being a bad person and like, you know The whole point is just to figure out like what ever you're and you take an inventory and like you discard What's not helpful and you can keep what is you know, you just discontinue shit that doesn't serve you But I'm like, no, I'm a terrible person. I did this and this and this and this and then I'm like, oh fuck you know and and like I was just god like winning like a gnarly depression and felt like I'd fucking I Don't deserve to live you know, like whatever and like I fucking checked myself into psych ward number two, you know While you were in recovery. Yeah, I had you were going over I had like three months of sobriety and I went to one of my meetings and I was like I was like all the work I'm putting into my fucking recovery On all I feel like I'm getting out of it is self-hatred I feel like I just can't forgive myself for the shit I've done I fucking hate myself, you know, and this all came about from just doing an inventory on your past pretty much Yeah, I just had like and it says, you know and some of the literature man. It says it like, you know The inventory process will like, you know Bring about like self loathing for a lot of people when we take an honest look at like the fucking pieces of shit that we became Like that's like a not an uncommon side effect, you know, like but so what sort of tools they give you to Look at your past but not not be angry at yourself not judge yourself. Well, I mean I Don't know like when I'm helping guys get sober. I try and tell them look man This isn't a process of putting you on trial man. This is just fucking figuring out what to stop doing You know and that's the best thing I can say about it but when I was in that second psych ward like You know I was like like I wrote I wrote some letters to people who have felt the most fucked up about what I'd done you know and like and it actually kind of turned around where I was like, you know, I was like Today I'm fucking so thankful for the shit that I did that I felt that bad about because like no longer is it like Oh, I don't deserve to live because I did that like for me today It's like I'm fucking desperate to not be that fucking asshole anymore, you know And so I turned into you know, and like when I first went in I was like the kind of thought like man This is gonna be my new thing I'm gonna get sober and like, you know I'm gonna be like, you know, the world's gonna kind of owe me I'm gonna revive my career a little bit but once I got through that point of like, you know, like sort of Fucking You know the dust settling and me being able to me being confronted with what I had turned into Then it wasn't even about what can I get out of it? You know, it was just about I don't want to be that fucking guy anymore And so I came out of that second rehab that second psych ward and I was so desperate to not be that fucking piece of shit Anymore and I was like, dude I'm starting over and I went into the fucking like I went into another rehab like the fucking Like the hardcore, you know, and I was just like I'm doing this To be and I like had my priorities straight, you know And then I was there for 60 days and I said by the time I finished that it was six months And then I went into like the regular sober living and so that there's a lot of fucking money you're spending here Yeah, the last rehab was seven 7500 per month at least I But yeah, fucking it was like 30 grand that second rehab. I heard that the second psych ward I spent a lot of money on it man fucking what are the guys that you were in the apartment with? What do those guys do for a living that they could afford to live in this? Share I paid the rent and I paid him each like a thousand bucks a month to do nothing Why'd you pay him money for what? Well one guy was just said that like he was on call to edit whatever footage like that you know that That I wanted edited, you know like to help me broadcast my downward spiral basically You know like I put some really upsetting video so the people that you were living in the assisted Situation like this is post the the major rehab right you're in the major rehab for 30 days and then the apartment I mean, it was different levels of rehab, but yeah like Yeah, and I wound up like back and yeah I mean I was in the whole deal at one point I was in the house for a while and sharing a bedroom with the guy Who snored and you know and and and you know at the end I was in the apartment But it was all the same deal What did these guys do for a living that they could afford to like take all this time off of life? Yeah, the sober living situation was like You know like that was like 1,000 bucks a month and that you know covers like your meals as well Okay So it's kind of more cost effective than if you're gonna try and find an apartment or anything like that and in the sober living Situation it's like these guys work during the day and they would come there and stay with you if you don't work You have to do a certain number of hours of Service work, so I would volunteer at a nursing home. Whoa. Yeah there's dope man like I Would just go fucking hang out with old people and play I'd call the bingo numbers Yeah, and then and then I would like go and fucking Movie for Paramount like it'd be like hey guys I'm not gonna be able to call bingo tomorrow because I'm gonna be like drinking a fat guy's sweat So when did it feel like you were free of the monkey, you know Never never right now you're not free. I mean whatever like I Just have like a way that I live my life, you know that I still stay connected It's like a fridge man, you know, like if you unplugged the fridge and then everything and it's gonna go rotten You know Like you got to fucking stay plugged in which means that like these things that that we do to stay sober Like you just fucking keep like what kind of things well, like helping other people stay sober is like the biggest thing You know, yeah, like, you know You help you take people through their 12 steps and who are these people that you take through and you know them? I mean whatever like you meet them sort of in the community You know like they'll ask you like will you be my sponsor? And so when you have a sponsor they call you up in the middle of the night Hey, I'm thinking about doing heroin like that kind of thing talk about that That is the idea it's better to call before you do it than after Cuz there's no point in talking to a loaded dude and how often do you do this? Like how often you work with people? Yeah, I mean depends like most guys like aren't like that active where they actually really call a lot but like you know, I I'm always starting a guy, you know, there's always guys like I'm starting off Really and and just very few of them stick with it where they get like the guys I've taken all the way through the steps There's been two two out of how many oh my god Well over a hundred so out of a hundred people two of them have become totally sober um I mean they've been like to say totally sober. I mean you're totally sober as long as you know, you're not loaded Right, maybe totally so like you are right now like you're But then You know, I got one I got one guy that's been all the way through the steps That's still in do you think are you one of those people who thinks that if you were a junkie? That you have to be sober forever Like you can't you can't go back to like you say if you had a heroin problem You can't drink they say once you become a pickle you never go back to being a cucumber So, yeah, like like there's no if I pick up a drink or a drug I'm fucked If I decide I'll pick up exactly where I left off But I know and then all I want is like to make sure I'm doing enough drugs that people are walking around my fucking Apartment in my house the shoe are not actually there But I know people that used to be like heroin addicts that can have beer they could smoke a little They didn't get away with it, man, then then power to them. It's dangerous Why is it dangerous though, I mean if they're if they're free of it like okay, here's a perfect example Anthony Bourdain He was a heroin addict. He was a junkie full-on. You still like to have a beer. He likes to drink doesn't drink at home Perry Farrell, I think is like that. You know, you can't have heroin. I do any drinks wine or whatever Hey, man power to him, but but for you it's not Alcoholics man, like the way that my family is structured there my lineage like dad was like a broke the mold of his family dad comes from a line of like academics like PhDs scholars theologians Zoologists like and he broke the mold of his family by becoming a businessman and a super successful one at that mom's side of the family everybody is Alcoholic drug addict gambler suicide. How'd your mom and dad meet? Ah partying she was super hot, you know But yeah, so like everybody everybody my mom's side of the family is either dead or dying from alcoholism I would say I mean my cousins I guess my one cousin's a mortician Yeah, I went to cloud color of itself I went to clown college he went to mortician school At the same time what's clown college Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey clown college for real. What do you do? This is an exploding shoe Well, like when I'm like, you know, I said I left the University of Miami I wanted to become a crazy stuntman right and all I really accomplished like with that, you know Even with all my crazy skills with drinking bong water like I couldn't get a job like and And so I was just like homeless for three years just getting arrested and fucking hospitalized you homeless for three years Well, I was couch surfing for three years I had the government test money or to try to test drugs on me for money. What? Yeah, like and I mean every day they do medical studies for like They'd be medical studies for whatever, you know Like if it's gonna come in contact with the human body like if it's a toothpaste or something They got to do a medical study But if it's a toothpaste then you're not gonna get paid shit if it's fucking drugs for pigs and cows Then then you're gonna get it like based on how dangerous the study is the more money you get and so I signed up for To have drugs for pigs and cows testing on me Which which I which I recently found out the drug is was banned Jesus fucking Christ, it's like this was in like 19 in January of 94 You're like a house that you like you get to the back like well, this is the last door. Hold on Oh, jeez, there's a whole nother house Yeah, it was like they they want like, you know 1994 like whatever the January of 94 and they wanted to pass this drug through the FDA Called rectopamine hydrochloride and the goal of that they didn't know much about it except they knew they would make the cattle like more lean like it would like increase the muscle mass decrease the fat so and but it would work the opposite way of Steroids somehow and like it was so that they could appeal to a more kind of health conscious market They could sell like leaner meat, you know less fat But the thing is that if it's gonna become legal then like by the virtue of the fact that when people eat the meat They're gonna get like a minute trace of this drug and then in you know The meat now they have to not only test the drug on people but they have to test like how much can the people withstand? drug so like They knew that it was gonna like increase our heart rates like You know and so what they the target for the study was to give it to us until somebody in the study Had their resting heart rate like laying down resting like 150 beats a minute like And it turned out that I had like the fucking most badass heart in the study Like like the only time I went over a hundred Was when the guy like monitoring my heart with like the ultrasound thing, you know They show the baby on the screen like he was like telling me stories about like killing people in Vietnam or some shit Yeah, it was like telling me like war stories and that got my heart like Normally like like what kind of stories was he telling I can't remember It was just like he was in the war and he killed people and I was telling you while he's doing a ultrasound your heart Yeah The same guy when he was looking at it showed like your blood like going in your heart like Red and coming out of your heart blue like on the screen. It was really fucking cool and And I just had like a strong heart, you know, he's like me said man. What a squeeze, you know, like Like what a squeeze what a serious Yeah, I was I was homeless anyway, so like Did that in Austin, Texas to oh, yeah. Yeah, that was in Austin, Texas at this place called pharmacol S.R Yes, I told you I got in the van with that guy. We drove out to Northern, California To Lake Tahoe to try and get jobs washing dishes at Squaw Valley to get free snowboard passes but it wasn't snowing so then we went to Fucking Colorado and I got a job like cleaning a meat room at a supermarket and that sucked So I'll go one with the other didn't drove to Austin, Texas and slept on a roof Until we got into the medical study and then we left with two grand and we were stoked and then like you know wound up like getting a car and following the Grateful Dead and selling drugs and and I was homeless for like three years and And like periodically I get my hands on cameras and do really fucked up shit, but you know, I was getting video footage But like ultimately like, you know, I just fucking was really bomb dude It wasn't it didn't like after three years. I couldn't take anymore and I reached out to my sister and she let me move in with her in Albuquerque and I was like I would eat all her food and I wouldn't fucking work and no money and if I did have money I was loaded and I was loud and you know So when my sister found out about Ringling Brothers in Barnum and Billy Clown College She's like dude, this could be the way to get my brother the fuck out of my house Like so like she told me about it like I got home and she's like, how are you getting to Denver by Monday? And I I hitchhiked from Albuquerque to Denver and I got there in two rides and just fucking went ape shit Have you written a book? Uh-huh. Okay. Is this all the book? Totally dude My book at my books like it barely made the New York Times bestseller list But that's because you didn't come on here first Probably yeah, like dude if people had heard these fucking stories and knew that they were in the Oh my god, barely made the best New York Times bestseller list but the like my number one I'm most proud of my book is my masterpiece man like On Amazon it's got like the key middle of average rating is a full five out of five stars There's no fucking partial stars Even people who hate me and want to hate my book give it a fucking five. Did you write it yourself? I worked with a writer on it But but I don't think anybody has like been more involved in the collaboration like that's awesome We bounced we bounced out of shit back and forth. I'm like dude, I would never use that word I don't you know, like I worked my dick off on that Your story is fucking insane. It's like it just has layers upon layers upon layers You know that's and that's kind of like what's dope about the fucking like the the comedy show man I'm like really bummed like to retire like my shit, you know, how you're retiring it What do you know, you know, like you retire material once the fucking special comes. Yeah, we make new stuff. Of course Yeah, please. It's a good opportunity for growth. Right? You want to be a comedy factory not a comedy warehouse One way to look at it. Yeah Your comedy should kind of represent who you are right now Well, yeah 20 years ago, it doesn't really represent who you write of course and like the whole like I don't fucking like I told You it's like the history is like super condensed, you know, like, you know, so that's like funny And with the story points I like on story points I have like when I say like about how I graduated from Ringling Brothers in Barnaby Lee clown college But like I wasn't one of the clowns who got fucking Contract with the circus so I had to like borrow money to get a fucking Greyhound bus back to Albuquerque, New Mexico where I hung my fancy clown costume in the fucking closet and Sold shitty weed and the bags of fucking weed I sold did not weigh anywhere near what they were supposed to weigh But in my life fucking sucked really bad. But after I got done Ripping you off like at least I would show you like a fucking epic Unbelievable cool trick like this one and then like on that point like we'll fucking bring Then bring thing like the table out and I'm gonna fucking show you the most incredible bar trick ever So when did you when did you put this book out? 2011 and did you go on the full tour do all these radio shows and I mean I did like radio tour like Well see that must have helped right I didn't do like terrible, you know It's just like you need like a platform where you could just talk for hours and hours and hours, right? It'd be cool if I had like a podcast to I just like that's what I'm saying Right. I'm everybody's tired of me going dude. You should have a podcast T-shirt that says dude you should have a podcast right? So I've said it to so many people but Fortunately like a lot of those fucking people took you up on it Not every podcast is the Joe Rogan experience, dude You know like it's the most fucking annoying question ever like hey, will you do my podcast? You know when you get cornered by your buddy and like yeah Something or yeah, they did not but it's it's one of those things we got to kind of work at it It doesn't seem like you have to work on it like stand up stand up sort of the same way Like we're doing kill Tony last night. It's one of the things I wanted to tell people like It seems like it's just you talking but you have to figure out how people are perceiving you And you're sure and that's that's a big part of doing a podcast too, but you would be really good at it You really what I think it would be good man It's you just did like one a week you'd probably it would take you a year or two to run out of stories But oh, I mean not even necessarily like who knows if like we're gonna tell stories about shit that happened or what's going on Yeah, man, dude Do you have like a guy that you could do it with we could bounce shit off him You have a good buddy that you thought about like I bled with I've thought about doing it You know, there's this fucking platform this this um, which I'm gonna call it It's called you now one of these streaming things like periscope or your cat but like but the fucking this is so crazy like you now and like Everybody who is a user of this platform Like like it has an account that they like put money into and so the way it works is like while you're streaming Like you like their questions show up and they want you to answer their questions So they'll like they have like different denominations of like money that they like Give you like a cam girl now. I swear Agents my agents like like bullied me into doing it. I tried it right now I just sat there like just telling stories to like the fans that were fucking watching and like by the end of I was on there for like 39 minutes and then I fucking Ended the stream and it's like you just made $1,000 I felt like a fucking panhandler. It is very cam girl esque Yeah But if you did that all the time it would probably at least pay for a studio if you set up a studio So I mean for sure but you don't want see you don't want two people to have to pay to ask you questions I don't yeah, like I said, I felt like a fucking panhandler and I hate it and I haven't done since Yeah, I did this show and the guy who promoted the show I didn't know about it something to Brian Callen set up this guy. I love that guy But these this guy had set it up and I love Brian too, but he doesn't pay attention to shit It's not like real good with details. I had asked him a bunch of questions about the show like hey, man There's a guy who's a DJ who's saying that he's spinning records in between us a week Is there a fucking break in between us? Where's a DJ? Come on? I'll check. I'll check. It's just you and I I get there It's not just me and him. It's me him. There's a fucking MC Three local comics a girl's doing 20 minutes and it was a disaster. We had to clean up this giant mess No, no, no, it's a comedy show But anyway, the guy had made people pay extra to take pictures to meet us and take pictures Exactly. And I said dude, you can't do that. I would never I would never do that and you can't do that You can't do that. It's fuck. I take pictures with everybody I'll do a theater now wait for hours and I'll take pictures with a thousand fucking people If you can't charge people an extra 20 bucks take pictures of me So this is his own he did it on his own as a promoter And this is all shit that Callan just didn't pay attention to the way the way I do that And Brian's cool about taking pictures. Oh, yeah. No, he is totally cool. He didn't pay attention He just let this guy handle everything who we didn't need in the first place. You know, what do you what do you need? He's you know, we don't need a promoter. This is Twitter. That's the promoter, you know, let people know you're there. They show up It's not that hard like what is this promoter in quotes doing? What is he doing? He's just trying to get his friends on the show and trying to charge extra to take pictures It was stupid but right but that's a gross model like the model of like people having the one thing is VIP You know all that gross shit meet and greet the the one thing though Is it the cell phone pictures like take fucking forever? Yeah, you know So what I do is I have my my website Where like I take the pictures myself and like when the fucking I'm so good at it. I stole your idea Nice. Oh that Jamie comes with me to some shows and takes pictures and it's better. It's better. Yeah, it's way quicker It's like one-third the time it's better to if you take them yourself because that way when the flash goes off you turn the camera Around you can show the people their pictures so they can see it for like quality control. Don't let them see it Oh, yeah, cuz then they go. Oh my god. Take it again. Oh My god, I do it. Oh my god I do because girls who like look at photos of themselves and everything's great like oh my god. I hate that picture do it again Yeah, no, no. No, this is what you look like. Yeah, but that's the thing is that like for me like I My camera so fast. Oh I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. So I'll take another one. I like it whatever I don't like the way my teeth look So So the fucking like and I just want the people to be really like happy I'll get like a bunch of cheese from man Like I want them to be super happy with it because I know that when they fucking go to my website and pull it that They're gonna post it on their fucking all their social media and I know that they're gonna post it Yes, and then that's that's sort of my grassroots way of letting people know what the fuck I'm doing Yeah, no, it's smart move and I started doing it right after I heard you did I think Brian told me about it Yeah, and a bunch of people do that now Gabriel does that too, right? Doesn't Gabriel go see something like that similar at the smart move right at the end of every show I say okay now I'm gonna like before I do my last fucking amazing stunt. I'm gonna do I'm gonna thank you guys for coming out and giving me a shot at stand-up And you know, I'm gonna fucking when I walk off the stage, I'm not going anywhere I'm so I take a photo with every single one of you guys and here's how you get him You go to my fucking website and I explain it really easy And I say and one last thing if you want to get out of here a little quicker The good news is I'm a New York Times best-selling author and I've got my fucking my book and I've got my fucking like my hats My shirts and if you guys want to get any of this shit Then that puts you to the front of the line type like a merch line and then a photo. Oh, I see Merch line first to get to the photo. Yeah through the gift shop. It's like and it's fucking Disneyland, dude I'm gonna take a picture with every single fucking person, right? I know you're taking picture of the people who buy merch first, you know And so like a lot of people would would be like, oh well fuck man Like I don't want to you know, I've told him like if you don't want to get anything That's great But please just like me hang out like have a drink whatever like and just fucking stick around and get that picture So I can thank you in person and a lot of people will think like man like, you know I want to get a picture, you know I don't really want to buy anything but like fuck I'll just buy something to get the fuck out of here So you end up selling like way more merch You know and nobody feels like you're a dick You know you still stick around and take a photo with every every one of the fuckers The only problem with selling things is you got a deal with people like $20 dude like those people like Just right. How many don't buy it? How many people are out there by selling fucking a one fucking side one color fucking shirt for? 35 40 bucks like Andrew DICE Clay. So it sounds like a fucking one color screen brings five shirts Yeah, he actually brings like five shirts and auctions them off Shirts like $500 Yeah, I charge I charge 20 bucks for for whatever but I sign every last fucking this I say like hey You know you can have a five-star New York Times bestseller. That's autographed by the author and a picture and 20 bucks No, it's great for a book. You know book for 20 bucks is a great deal you think about the amount of time It's it costs. You know yeah book amount of time that you spend being entertained by that book Looks like the greatest bargain ever yeah, I love it takes days to read you know yeah I love that shit man, but in any case no I'm so excited man that you have like as much of a reach as you did man because I really We gotta fucking get this paramount theater in Austin fucking packed man I'm gonna like that show is gonna be like that's my that's my showtime Well you're gonna leave here and your phone is gonna be buzzing off the hook with your manager going Did you say you're gonna light the Paramount on fire? Like dude it's only one time to get out of the room don't worry There was like 23 people that just died recently Fire on stage. Oh, yeah, it just happened again where two people in the band even died where White yeah Was it Sweden or is something happened it sparked on the side stage immediately the whole place Technics Pyrotechnics dude is not worth it. We used to have those in the UFC. We still these fucking giant like opening shows actually I don't think we had yeah, we did have fire belief, but in Joel de Oliveira was like this famous fighter from Brazil and he was fighting in pride and they accidentally lit him on fire And he was on his way to the to the ring and you know They do the boom when you're walking through like this gateway They like the fire and they they fucked up the timing They lit this fucking dude on fire as he's on his way into the ring and burnt him And then they said you'll be back We give you money and so you know it took like a year off healed up his fucking 18 degree burns and Came back a year later and fought again Do you have anything like when you go to the doctor? Do you have anything that that bothers you still to this day from? stunt That's my choice I Have you know I mean Choice Like the fake teeth and shitty tattoos is most of it, but I'm like a my esophagus is fucked. What's wrong? You're talking Like a Barrett's esophagus, it's like you know like warning signs for esophageal cancer From just like like acid reflux and I don't know drugs and shitty living and vomiting Do you take care of yourself now? Cigarettes I haven't smoked and you're a vegetarian now, right? Yeah vegan you haven't smoked in seven years Wow So right when you start getting sober this yeah, well, I was five months sober when I gave up cigarettes Oh, and I haven't smoked weed since March 9th of 2008 So no coffee and thanks for not smoking weed for this one. Oh, no, I appreciate it No worries. I wouldn't wouldn't want to get you secondhand lambasted, but although some people keep telling me that's bullshit But I know it's not a pot. I just like I like I Don't really give a fuck of people drink around me But like the week's I'm like breathing it in and I guess like the problem is it fucking smells great And who doesn't love the smell of weed it smells great in it. I do believe secondhand smoke gets you high I don't think it gets you as high smoking pot, but I think secondhand smoke still affects you I don't want to fuck with it. Yeah, I like sense super grateful. So Vegan yeah, dude like don't there's a whole other fucking like There's a major other door but which other door like And this this I mean I'm gonna fucking let people didn't see this In Austin or at the Showtime, but it's like, you know, so I did fucking go to rehab and like get sober in the whole deal And then it's like all right. Well It's great that I've learned how to live without fucking drugs and alcohol. But like now I'm gonna have to address my sex addiction You step a guy that you followed her. Oh, yeah, I still travel with a professional cock blocker Yeah, I got I mean that was my deal dude like I was like, you know, this is it's a mean joke I tell but you know, I say I'm like I'm fucking 41 now. I'm looking at like my future and You know, like I don't want to be 51 and falling apart and trying to hump everything that moves I don't want to turn into Polly Shore How dare you I mean if there's a guy But I'm sure there's a few other guys Just fucking ride that boat right into the rocks I'll go with Lemmy before I go Let me from motorheads like but the thing is I think right right. I just like honestly man. I'm like fuck dude, like I Believe you're married right? It's like I really believe that like to be like happy You know like it's it's important to fucking have a life partner and not run around trying to fuck everybody and screw them over You know, like that's the deal Like I like how can I give so much of a fuck about animals that I won't fucking eat an animal But I have no respect for women at all You know like doesn't add up like so it like on my fucking path and once I got into the the meditation like I've been doing Transcendental meditation for two and a half years now and like I couldn't you know Once I got into that like it was just like glaring like a fucking flashing red light like stop fucking screwing over chicks You know and and fucking using him up and throwing him away and just like, you know Like and whatever if I'm on the road like fucking hooking up with all the chicks It's just like it just became clear like that's pretty much like a path to being fucking miserable and it's a type of addiction Yeah, for sure because I guess I get anything out So I like, you know, I've made myself like a promise and like okay If now I'm like I want to fucking learn how to be in a healthy relationship Because I feel like that time I'm gonna be happy and so I'm gonna fuck them from here on out I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fuck random chicks on that. I'm gonna stop trying to get my dick sucked everywhere You know, I'd like But I can do it man Lines of women at your show The rehabs are 30 days like I could do it, you know one step at a time Well, I told you like I'm gonna walk off the fucking stage I'm not gonna go anywhere inside take a picture with everybody So the whole fucking audience basically gets in a line and it's an audition to see who gets to suck my dick Oh my goodness That's hilarious So you have a guy there? I fucking do the whole thing. I remember like that guy gets his dick sucked No, cuz he's in the fucking sex program too. Oh, wait, there's a sex program There's a whole program? If you need somebody to oversee both of you guys Right, I mean whatever like I'm stoked on it man Because now I'm like fucking yeah, I'm like I've gotten therapy like the whole deal and which is hilarious because like, you know My whole story arc, you know is like it's pretty epic, you know to Go from where I was at to where I'm at now You know at the end I think at the end of the show I'm gonna have to fucking break out my old light bulb trick and fucking slash my shit and bleed everywhere Just because like to fucking to try to fucking like by the end of like my fucking show It's like okay It's now I'm like a fucking vegan and you know, like trying not to get my dick So I'm like cleaning sober like fucking healthy eater, you know meditating like the least I can do is fucking Bleed all over myself after I get you're you're a vegan because you love animals. That's how I got into it Yeah, okay, but you feed your animals animals. I Do feed my dogs dog food that has fish in it and I just I just adopted a cat So I'm in the same thing, right? Don't fucking like vegan dog food. I do it's terrible. I did it for a while They have to be like Like at the point of hunger where like you're willing to eat your own fucking foot Isn't that kind of fucked up? You know, it's like you're choosing the animals that you love you're feeding these animals other animals that were captive I mean if you want to be like super black and white like Peter Then I guess like PETA, I mean this that's the reality of animals, right? I mean, I just like that like I don't know I mean I share that like the even in my fucking canvas, you know slip on vans That there's some kind of animal products and then in the rubber, right? Yeah a lot of rubber I'm not gonna not get photographed because there's animal products in the film You know, you just can't you can't do everything a hundred fucking percent, you know Like I just do the best I can and I feel better and I feel better for doing it Yeah, no, it's just think the animal thing is weird when people are super self-righteous about killing animals and yet they have pets For sure. I've had a real issue with that with people. Okay, I get it man. That's why that's why I like I'm like really fucking Committed to not trying to tell other people what to do, you know, I don't like you have your whopper man Like eat all I mean you want I don't give a fuck I'm just happier myself like trying to And why why vegan what about like farm fresh eggs or things along those lines? I was fucking with I was fucking with with fish and eggs and like a while I only I only recently went back to being fully vegan. Mm-hmm, but You know, it was cuz I'm fucking feel tired all the time. I'm like man What is it? I think it's my diet and I think if I eat fish and eggs then all of a sudden I'll have more energy But it didn't happen. No, I fucking had a sleep study. It turns out I got sleep apnea Okay, I do so it's never my do use a CPAP machine. No, I use a mouthpiece Try the CPAP and I can't fucking do it. I gotta get the mouthpiece. I'll turn you on to a doctor That's please do local that makes a really good one a lot of people that have it. It's your tongue fall I have a fat tongue. Yeah, I have a neck. Yeah, and and I was I went to this Physician like to get cleared for a TV show and she was shining the light in the back Mature she said do you feel like you sleep a whole night and wake up and you're still tired? I'm like, yes She says well then the back of your throat's really narrow and she I think that's gonna cause it sleep apnea Yeah, the holes narrow. Yeah, I have that too and also like I they've talked to me about getting an operation when they take out your adenoids and your tonsils and It's pretty intense and it's it's it sucks for like a week But then after it's over you have a larger hole and that larger holes better for sleeping But I wonder how many serves me well, do you still get up to piss as much? Oh, yeah, if I have to piss if I try not to drink before I go to bed like right right a bit But if I do, yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, do you drink a lot? Lately we've been trying I got a fucking big fucking water pitcher next to my bed on the floor Just picked up a piss in there and put it back My friend Matt Sarah who is a former UFC welterweight champion when I first met him He had this gym in Long Island and he used to sleep in the basement of his gym he's just teach and then go downstairs and sleep and He had this jug right next to bed because fighters will drink like gallons of water that day They drink water all the time flush your system out and you just whip his dick out I Didn't even get out of bed. I would turn sideways put my dick in the hole piss Pull it out put the jug down right back to say dude. So great man This one like water pitcher like I don't have a very big dick or anything But like I don't even really have to tip over man because like it's got like a little spout thing It's like one of those classic Kool-Aid fucking Kool-Aid breaks through the wall. Yeah, the fucking it's the Kool-Aid kind. So I just flop my dick Good to go. So when you got a sleep study, they put all the electrodes on you know that jazz How many times did you wake up in an hour? They said that it was actually like mild to moderate Mm-hmm, but but still man, I noticed it. I'm fucking I gotta get that fucking mouth. Yeah, it's not well You should lose weight. I needed in weight is the big one I think it's like with Joey Diaz Joey Diaz uses the CPAP machine, but he didn't used to have to have that It's like when he got really big that's when he really developed because the more fat you have It's all closes everything off. You know, right when you see people with giant jowls. Well, guess what that fats everywhere It's inside your face It's inside your neck and all that fat will close off the hole and when you lay back and your tongue falls over that hole There's no air and right. I had to wake a guy up man. I was on a plane This fucking guy was not breathing for like minutes at a time and then then gacking and coughing and then I didn't wake him up But I talked to him when he woke up and I said hey man Have you ever gotten check for sleep apnea because he was it was snoring the most ungodly snow I'm thinking you're saying motherfucker wake up It's like when he said like I'm thinking like man, I'm gonna get sued like you're not worried about the kid There's got spiked on his head I try to be this poor guy was freaking me out because he was making these noises And Then he would go back to like And then it would be nothing no sound and I'm awake because I was writing and it was on a long flight And I looked over at this guy and I'm noticing that he's very overweight and it's just lying there like this No movement. No breathing. No, no movement at all in his chest and also Like I mean he would go I mean I'm exaggerating over saying minutes, but he would definitely go 40-seconds like I timed it I forget what the time was but I remember being alarmed and I remember sitting up going Okay, I got to talk to this guy and I had my mouthpiece with me cuz I bring it in my It moves your lower jaw forward. No, no, no mine doesn't mine actually just depresses my tongue down And it keeps my tongue from falling back over my air hole It depends on what kind of sleep apnea have Central one I think they said hmm. I don't know what's the difference. I don't know Joey would know more than anyone cuz Joey's got it real bad Joey needs the CPAP like he has to have air below in I love him too. It's probably smoking weed right now in Paris go but anyway, so I The guy was like kind of stirring and moving and when he finally was like opening his eyes and looking around I talked to him and I had like a long sit-down with him I showed him the mouthpiece and I go dude you could die I go you you hold your I was gonna film it but I thought that would be rude Just film you but I mean you're holding your breath for a long time. Have you ever talked to anyone about it? He's like no, you know, my wife tells me I snore I go dude. You don't just snore you like choking You know and there's a lot of people that you don't know what happens when you go to sleep you're out and you sleep you're out and When you're out like that, you're not getting any oxygen when you sleep You don't get into heavy REM sleep You go and get into those deep cycles You just skirt the edges and then you wake up because your body's gasping in panic mode And so you wake up after like eight hours of sleep me still fucking exhausted Every day I feel like I could go back to bed right when I wake up You really could lose weight. I mean, you know, that's a big that's a social Joey Joey I mean, that's a big thing with Joey's way way way overweight Yeah, and he got down a while just like you did. I mean Joey lost like 80 fucking pounds at one point But um, he's he gets the energy from that CPAP like he feels way better like he travels with one He has this machine that he travels with that he has to check I mean, so he always has to check his luggage because his carry-on is his CPAP machine So he doesn't go anywhere without checking his luggage every flight he takes Joey brings that machine with him That is his fucking that's his security system. You brought up earlier. You brought up Greg Fitzsimmons What do you think about because I it makes me feel weird I don't like it it's misguided I love Greg, but I think it's misguided and for folks who don't know what we're talking about Greg has decided to start stealing Bill Cosby's material and doing it openly so he does these classic Bill Cosby bits and then he Lets everybody know in the middle of it that he's stealing Bill Cosby's bits to take away from him What is most precious? But he doesn't really work because it doesn't you don't like if someone tries to steal some shit off of like shiny happy Jihad or something like that like it's already out. It's already on CD I did it and you know fucking 2006 like if you're stealing you're not taking anything away from me You're just you're just you know, you're just selling yourself short by stealing So like if Greg does Bill Cosby's material you don't ever take it away from him It's already recorded these are like he doesn't even do that material anymore. So I don't know I don't think it's really effective It seems like you're taking something negative and being negative about it It just doesn't seem it and I also think it just opens the door to people go Well, Greg stole Bill Cosby's jokes, you know, and but he says it on stage. Yeah stealing it He lets people know in the middle of it that he's stealing Bill Cosby's big break fits him steals Bill Cosby's bits now He does he's doing it on purpose to try to take something from Bill Cosby like this is the idea behind it I think it sounds like Bill Cosby would be super psyched on that because it's like wow I'm getting credit for being funny and it's distracting people from True that's completely defeating. Yeah, I think it's a gimmick I mean, I I see what he's like he's genuinely thinks the guy's disgusting right? It's just let me like glorify his comedy, but Yeah, I mean I don't get it either I don't I don't I just I don't know maybe if I had him on and Greg I'll have monsoon and he's gonna be on soon I guess we're talking about doing something with the next couple weeks. So maybe he'll explain it better I just I wouldn't want to have anything to do with it, you know, I'd say his up fascinating There's a some lady that was on who was a legal expert who was discussing it And she said he might be the most prolific serial rapist in history, which is fucking insane It's insane to look at it that way that this guy mr. Hux to bull You know the fucking guy from the TV show the guy who had the squeaky clean comedy The guy who did the bit about you know, the football players saying hi mom to his son on TV This guy was like wholesome. Mr. America in a sweater But did none of these girls like the next morning? Well, God what the fuck happened? He raped me I am going to to the police This is all you know, kind of like wishy washy like yeah I kind of felt weird that night, but no one really went right to the police though. Did they um, I don't know I don't know seems weird. It seems like if it doesn't seem weird to me It seems like a lot of people just kind of I don't know. Well, listen man if you're a girl, okay Look at it this way. You're some young girl who's trying to make it in show business and you're you know You get brought into his office because you know his you know He knows your parents or something that that was a lot of the situation like he there was one of one Situation was there was like a modeling company and he would contact the modeling company to get people on his show Like you're looking to cast Roles that didn't even exist and he'd have them in his office drug him and Yeah, I mean he would bring them into his office and drug him like would you like a cappuccino? Would you like to do the cappuccino and give him a cappuccino and fuck them? I mean just drug them. I don't know it seems like if that were to happen though like four hours later This girl's like I just went there for an interview had a cappuccino and he fucked me like you would go right to know This is why this is why no because I think for what I was gonna say is like these these are young girls that are probably Completely overwhelmed that they're even in his presence Like they can't even believe that they're meeting Bill Cosby So you're insanely starstruck and the fact that he's touching you puts you into a state of shock like you're fucked up And then you're confused because you wake up and you're you were drugged You don't know what happened and then you're embarrassed and horrified of it. I mean, there's so many Mr. Huxtable exactly it's like he's this is before the internet man You know for girl like that if that happened today a girl could go on our Facebook page and say today I went on an audition with Bill Cosby and he drugged me and raped me and like whoa Like bam that takes off and it goes viral But back then man if you go to the fucking police they might not say shit or my they might go to Cosby and Cosby Might sue you but you got to realize some women did and in 2005 He actually paid off women and he that's why this all got more serious lately Is because they released the transcripts and the transcripts said that he admitted that he had drugged these girls He admitted it. So this this did go to cops and it didn't go out to the public So it's like it's not kind of weird. It's just the amount of power and money this guy I mean Bill Cosby is like a billionaire I mean the amount of money that guy has is insane and the amount of power that kind of money has Where you're talking about just teams of lawyers that just try to figure out any sort of attack that they could do To try to mitigate any of the issues that are going on with people accusing him of all this crazy you know rape shit, it's like He he he fought it for a long time as he hasn't really publicly denied any of it, right? No, he hasn't denied it at all. He hasn't denied it all. He just doesn't talk about it, you know right he one of the weirdest things that he said he did this one interview and he said in all my Years of show business. I've never seen anything like this Yeah, well that's called free speech. This is what's going on now Like you you everyone can talk now like now people can get online and talk about Crimes that you committed it's like you can't hide behind lawyers anymore You can't threaten them, you know, you can't you you and you're a girl you're barely paying your bills You know, you're barely getting by and he offers you $20,000 or $100,000 to shut the fuck up and you have to sign some Written agreement it says you never speak about this again. You take that money That's what they do and that's what they did in 2005 And I don't know how much they got paid but it's probably even more than that probably a million I mean when you when you're worth what that guy's made in his career I'm who knows what he's got left But when someone a hundred thousand here a hundred thousand there for a guy like that is nothing He could silence a lot of shit, but just keeping people quiet with money, you know And that's probably what happened when things came up I mean, I don't know and then there's also people feet with fear of being blackballed You know being blackballed from show business when you're a struggling actress and you're barely getting by the difference between Bill Cosby Talking badly about you and accusing you of being a liar Like who's gonna listen to you and who's gonna listen to him? They gotta think that most people are gonna listen to Bill Cosby and that could wreck your career before it ever gets started Just sink your ship and it seems like a lot of these girls that he prayed on We're trying to make it in show business. That was a big part of like what he would attack He would go after these girls that were trying to become actresses and he was like a mentor figure That was like the angle that he was presenting Stark shit, man Yeah, how'd we get on that? I take one piss We're talking about Greg Fitzsimmons Greg Fitzsimmons in his Bill Cosby strategy. Yeah, I don't know weird It's a little misguided. I think I don't know. I mean, maybe Greg's got a better point. Maybe we need to let him articulate it It's the darkest thing in all of the history of stand-up comedy, I think I mean or close to it You know, I mean what else there was that Vince champ guy that was raping college girls and he got caught He would say like horrible shit to them like pray for me and stuff like while he's fucking them That guy's in jail for the rest of his life Cosby's just out running around I mean, it doesn't seem like there's any charges that are being put up against him And as far as I know there's only one woman that the the rape happened inside the statute of limitations I don't know what the statute of limitations is, but I think it's like That's it that seems fucked. I think a rape I think it's seven years But that's kind of like well, you know, it's a little wishy-washy Meaning like if you've if you've raped somebody and you have great proof eight years later. I'm sure they're still gonna I Don't know I don't think that's the case. I think a statute of limitations. It's pretty rock-solid like once. Yeah Yeah, like double jeopardy and shit. Yeah, it's it's it's law, you know, I don't know it's fucked up We've talked about that so many times. It's a it's a subject that's been beaten to death But if it seems like it's so significant that you kind of have to beat it to death It's hard to believe Imagine if that was like your dad or something like that Imagine, you know if you found out your dad was a fucking serial rapist or your mom even your mom's drug and dude that sucking their dicks taking pictures About if your son came home from school and told told you that his teacher sucked his dick how pissed you Would be Don't you ever ruin that? No, it's that he called the cops My son called the police cuz uh How does someone ever find out that a female teacher molested kid one of those pussies has to open his mouth My son did that I would be pissed you're fine Yeah, okay It's just there's a giant difference between a woman molesting a boy and a man molesting a girl I mean, I don't think it should be encouraged, but it's certainly not the same, right? Did you hear about anonymous releasing all the KKK members? Information. Yeah, supposedly there's a lot of US senators Good. I applaud you anonymous. I feel like anonymous overall across the board does more good shit I don't I hear very very few bad accusations on their part almost everything they do. I agree with I love it Like it good. Fuck the KKK fuck all those crazy fucking Stone Age assholes We give a shit about the origin of birth of your great great great grandparents, you know, you're not pure You're not of the pure race It's gonna be interesting though cuz supposedly there's some Ferguson police that are involved in this and it the whole list Officially gets released and I think next week or this good meanwhile Brian's on it Well, they could just put your name on it man, it's so many what to fuck with you Steve O's in the KKK what Yeah, you've you've kind of morphed it's really fascinating I mean seeing you go from being this wild crazy Ketamine Snorton psychopath jumping off roofs and shit and damaging body to being this vegan who's trying to live a kind life and trying to be nice to people and you don't want to Randomly hook up with girls because you want to have a meaningful relationship And taking care of animals and fuck SeaWorld. It's really amazing to see you Become this yeah, you know, I mean every once in a while I gotta do something pretty fucked up just to make sure that I'm Well, I didn't meet you until you were sober right, you know, I missed the crazy train I've kept it pretty crazy sober to you though. Yeah. No, no doubt. Yeah I mean just explaining what you're planning on doing at the Paramount before they found out about it Do you think there's gonna be a jackass jackass 4k or something like that? I don't think so, man, but I'm getting old and fucking injuries last one was so great I'm working. I'm working my dick off to get my own movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like It's sort of sort of like the bad grandpa format, but it's all my god was bad grandpa good Oh, yeah, that was a funny funny fucking move. I cried when he got his dick stuck in that machine Oh my god, it was one of the funny. That was a funny fucking movie that I really good I don't think got enough credit. I really don't think you've got as much credit as it deserved I think it did Well, it was number one But it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life and when you talk about like funny all-time movies very few People bring up bad grandpa. I think they should I think it's a goddamn epic movie There's some kids shitting on the wall and when he's dancing to the funny that kids awesome I love the kid in there when he goes to the the black club and he's with all the ladies and he's dancing. Come on Okay, dude, it's fucking epic movie. Yeah, so do you have a movie that worked out or do you have an idea much? Yeah, I'm gonna like keep the cards close to your chest Yeah, dude, but um, but I gotta deal with you know, big-time movie producer guys Yes, so now we're like Taking it like getting it written and get the director and then take it to the studio is kind of a deal So we were talking about this the damage that you've done We're talking about the damage you've done to your body before you went off the P and you said esophage Okay, you like this. Yeah, what's called? Barrett's esophagus side. That's it. Other than that like pretty much owns and joints and back and joints are all good That's crazy. What about Knoxville? Is he okay? he's Got some back issues, I think is that from that bull which When he went blindfold and the bull right that wasn't a bull it was a yak but oh That was a I don't think that he got particularly hurt on that. I think that one thing One thing that did a lot of damage to him was early early on Dropping in on the skateboard halfpipe like the one of the big vert ramps. Mm-hmm. And he just like I mean just fell straight to the flat bottom and Like I remember like hearing that like, you know, he turns his like turning the car like hurts His shoulders fuck he definitely did more damage because like he didn't have like the benefit of growing up like falling off a skateboard Sort of learning how to fall down, you know, like when he'd like You know a lot of us are like sort of you know, I mean I'm like, you know sort of circus clown acrobat You know lifelong fuck by trade. So yeah So yeah, so I'm kind of more like like I'm better at falling down without getting hurt Knoxville like falls down. It's just me hitting the ground in the worst way, which is why it's shit's always the best, you know Oh, yeah, that makes sense because you can do flips and all that shit, right? You know how to fall with your body yeah, I'm more like a cat when it gets down to it and Knoxville is just You know, so I think that he's probably in worse shape. But then again the same time I think that uh You know how he he takes good care of himself, you know You know, I think maybe he's done some mending. I get some disc issues. I don't know. Mmm Yeah, I've had a gang of those I did my own stunts for this accidentally did my own stunts this Kevin James movie I was in excited. I suck at riding bikes. I had to ride a bike and I had hit him with a flag Which Kevin James was a zookeeper and I was okay The guy that I'm telling about is the one who did that movie which guy Todd Garner Oh the guy who the produce I know Todd. Yeah, that's a good dude. I love Todd So I had to hit the brake while I was like riding a bike and I was hitting him with this flag But I'm hitting the front brake and when you you know You hit the front brake if it locks you go flying over the top and I did it like three times I'm just kidding. We wind up using that in the movie instead of the stuntman because I just want to go fucking flying But I'm pretty good at falling. It was a lifelong, you know, martial artists So all the like that I knew when I hit the ground that you can't just hit the ground You got to kind of like roll with it But you really have a real strong Appreciation for stunt people when you do something like that because I go well I got through this luckily without getting hurt But if I had to do this every fucking day or you know every week Some new thing where you've fallen off of a building or jumping off of a fucking moving car That potential for damaging yourself is super high and you hear about those people dying It's always like some movie that no one's gonna give a fuck about some Racing motorcycle scene a Steven Seagal movie and someone dies, you know I mean you gotta when you watch those crazy action movies think about that appreciate the fact that those people They literally put their physical health and their life on the line for your entertainment you know, I didn't think about it too much until I just Fucked up and fell a few times on a bike in a movie, you know It's like those guys do it on purpose all the time. Yep. That's right, man. It's fucking hard gig man That's a hard purpose at the fucking Paramount See this now I want to be there. Yeah, why don't you go? I mean, yeah, yeah No one's holding you back All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's wrap this bitch up Steve Oh Steve Oh on Twitter Paramount Theatre November 21st Austin Austin, Texas. I will be in Denver at that time. I'm at the Belco Theatre on November 21st with the great Ian Edwards and then 20th Edwards epic. I'm in Madison, Wisconsin on the 20th All that shit is on my website Joe Rogan net and the tour section Brian. What you got going on Wednesday? We're at the commie store me and you Krista Leah Secret show and also me and him secret secret guests. Yeah some secret guys. I'll be really cool with Bosch. Yeah, hopefully And also me and Tony are bringing Kill Tony to Pittsburgh in Ohio Thanksgiving week It's November 27th will be in Pittsburgh in November 29th in Ohio go to desk squad TV click on tour Alright you fucks. I got a podcast in one hour with Chris Ryan, so I'll see you then. Bye. Bye big kiss. Yeah, dude. Thanks Joe