Joe Rogan Experience #1567 - Donnell Rawlings & Dave Chappelle

Joe Rogan Podcast, Check it out! The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! John, now. What's going on, bro? Good to see you, my friend. Take me to the river, I wanna go I'll go Take me to your river, I wanna go I don't even know who sings that. You don't know who sings that song? No. Leon Bridges. Leon Bridges. Yeah, he's like a folk country singer, black dude. I think he's Louisiana's where he's from. But about five years ago he had a very popular song. That was like a song that really charted well. It was called The River. That was that. That was that song. And then what he does is... You were? You know that dude? I've seen him before, I don't know that I know that song. But this song is like, he's had other songs, but for some reason this song resonated with a lot of people in the country, man. It was like him reminiscing with going to a place that made him feel good in the river. I hope when we go over to Spotify we can play it. I go, I can take me to your river I wanna go I'll go That's pretty much it. That's the one part everybody knows. It's acceptable now for people to wear like neck scarfs. Are you being insulting? No, not at all. What do you say though? It's normal. If you'd wore that on any other time, I'd be like, what is on your neck? And I would explain it to be a gator. Right. A gator. I know what it is. I know what a gator is. Yeah, this is what it is. It's my gator. You're wearing when you're sneaking up on animals. Or people. Well that color's not, you can't sneak up on anybody. Gay pride. Gay pride. There's a lot of colors in that. Yeah, I guess that's a rainbow. Yeah. Not a traditional rainbow. It's a liberal, liberal gator. Liberal gator? Yep. It's accepted by anything. Gay people, black people, Hispanic people. I'm sorry. No worries. My baby mother asking me about weed. Jesus. Don't you don't like me? Don't you like me? Why you keep pouring me up about weed? You said you don't like me. She likes your weed. I mean, they like something, man. What happened to your thumb? I got shot. Who shot you? That's a question I haven't found the answer to. Really? It was, this shit happened so quick, Joe. I didn't really get a good look at the person, the person that shot me. Not to many people around her witness it. But I have the wound to show that I got shot. What was the situation? I was my dog. I got a little, I got a new dog. She's adorable. Listen. That says adorable as a dog gets, ladies and gentlemen. Look at that. Look at that little cutie. Can you see her on camera? This is my emotional support. That's Maggie. Yeah, that's Maggie. Maggie. Come here, sweetie. Come here, Maggie. Come here, honey. She doesn't know what coffee is. She's like, I'm not trying to. She doesn't know what weed is, but she doesn't know what coffee is. But I was protecting her. Some people were trying. Joe, you want to hear the story about how I got shot or what? Yeah. I was protecting her honor. Right? I was protecting her from a hell of bullets. It was a gang. It was a lot of people. I don't remember all of that, but I got shot in my motherfucking thumb. Where were you? In the streets. Oh, just regular. Yeah, I was. I was in the street. No, not just the streets. No, it was just in the streets. No town. No, just the streets. And that happens sometimes, Joe. You put yourself hanging in the streets. You put yourself in some unforgiving situations and that's what happened to me. And that's what happened to me. And that's what happened to me. And that's what happened to me. And that's what happened to me. And that's what happened to me. And that's how I got my motherfucker thumb shot the fuck off. And that's the story I'm talking. That's the story that I'm sticking to. So you got caught in crossfire. A hell of bullets. Jesus Christ. Forty-five shots rang out. Really? Legitimately? Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Wow. And this is the only injury I sustained. I'm very happy that that's the only injury you sustained. You're not happy about it, Joe, because when I- I love you. I know you love me, but when I told you I got shot, you continued to question me about- Well, Donnell, that's because you're Donnell. Right. But you continued to- I didn't question you like I didn't believe you. You did. 100% you didn't believe me. But you said it so casually. That's what you- I said, do you want a drink? He said, I can't. I'm on antibiotics. I said, what happened to you? I got shot. That's it. Usually, any of my other friends who've been shot, if I said, hey, man, what happened? And they said, I got shot. If I can just end right there, they would say, it's the craziest story ever, man. Yeah, but you don't- I was on my way to the car, and I had my little dog. Right. I was protecting her and shot her. And that's the story that I told, but the thing that you didn't believe me, if someone said they got shot- I didn't believe you. You can't say I didn't believe you. That's not true. The look at your face is like- Well, it's unusual the way you were describing it. I got shot, and then you wouldn't say anything more. Just like, what happened? How'd you get shot? Well, remember I had a disagreement with so and so? Well, we finally had an opportunity out of paths cross. We found a situation where those energies came together. We was like, how are we going to settle this? It wasn't like that. I understand. It wasn't like that. Okay, so you don't want to get specific about details. No, I don't want it to get specific. I just want you to respect the fact that I got shot. I believe that you got shot. I do respect it. I'm sad that you got shot, but I'm glad you're okay. I'm better. I'm good. So how is your thought doing? Is it going to be all right? Yep. It's going to be good. You know, we got all the bullet fragments out of it. You know, we avoided the surgery, so I'm going to be good. Just got to get the range of motion back. Oh, that's real good. They didn't have to do any surgery and tendons or anything like that. Nope. I got lucky. I have a friend who cut his finger on a window, man, and he never got his fingers back again. His fingers are like this, curled. I know everybody knows a motherfucker like that, and we've all made fun of that motherfucker. We've made fun of the person that you know that don't have a thumb, but I'm telling you, doing this after me surviving this gunshot shit, just buttoning my pants become a task that I took for granted. The point I'm making is that you're lucky to have all of your limbs, all of your shit on your body. Yep. And you don't appreciate it until one of them motherfucker gone. Well, I think that's the case with everything, right? Like we didn't appreciate how good we had it before the lockdown, before COVID came around. Nobody appreciated how good we really had it. We was living in the moment. We were also spoiled. We were spoiled by how good everything was. But we didn't think it was spoiled because that was what was going on until shit shifted and then same thing like you lose your thumb. You're like, oh shit, you know, I really do appreciate doing those three spots that night. You know what I mean? I appreciate the fact that I could just walk with my family anywhere and I wouldn't be judged. I wouldn't be discriminated against or whatever. It just be like, there goes Joe and his family, not just like, do you have a mask or not? Right. You know? But I do believe that it took a pandemic for people to really realize what the most important things in life are. I think so for sure. I think at the beginning people were nicer because they were scared and they were like, it was almost like post 9-11 feeling. Right. Like we're all in this together. Right. That didn't last very long. It was unrealistic to think that everybody's going to be that way. People don't get frustrated. Also, resources started getting low and people started realizing they're not going to be able to work for a long fucking time. Did you see the governor got busted? Did you see the photos? Which governor? Governor of California. He got busted for what? Got busted going to a restaurant with 12 people, no social distancing, no masks, all the shit that he's been preaching for, he didn't do. They were saying that he was in outdoors, like his people said it was outdoors, but now they have photos of it, 100 percent indoors. Right. They're all indoors, talking, sitting. But the thing is, the unrealistic part about that, you know people got to push their place and push their platform. This mask has been crazy. But me, I know it shouldn't be like this. And I know it's like, but what does it? The gushy girls up in you. But what does it represent? He's so adorable. When I see motherfuckers like that in a situation like no mask, not social distancing, I just assume that they all been tested and they all have been in a bubble situation. That's because you've been in a bunch of bubble situations. Right. Like when Dave did the shows down in Yellow Springs. Like you, you bubbled me first. I bubble you here. You're the first person. You're the first person. You didn't rape my nose. You raped my finger. I didn't do it. Yes, you did. You hired a nurse. You made somebody do it. You could call it whatever the fuck you want to do, but she worked for you. That's true. And you forced that that she had to do it. Well, I just suggested it probably a good idea for everybody. Yeah, but it was good for everybody. And you knew that. So we know like that's a bubble world. Yeah. But it's not surprising that you see the governor in a situation like that, because I'm pretty sure it doesn't send out the right message. But I'm pretty sure that the motherfuckers was tested. Well, that's what he should have said. They can't say that because they're a politician and everybody would go, wait a minute. If I just test people, can I go to work? Like what Dave's doing with all his shows. Yeah. Test people in the audience. You can have a full audience. You know, you have a bunch of people that are healthy. You know, you, you, you're taking the measures to create that safety. It's a bubble. Here's the thing that a lot of people understand is that like you could literally create your own bubble. Yes. Like I know people that were in certain states, you have to meet a certain requirement to be tested. You can't be a test unless you have she starts showing symptoms, but you can create your bubble. There's testing almost everywhere. There's an opportunity for people to get tested. It's a little harder than that for most people because the most rapid state, most people in terms of like just people's of just your access to it. It's not that common where you can go to a place and get a quick test yet. Okay. And what's the difference? And I may be wrong that this may be my ignorance like California. Like I know the situation like a Dodger stadium, you know what I'm saying? Like for the most part, anybody with, I guess, a California idea, whatever they can get tested. No, but hold on. You know, that takes hours. You know, those people have to wait in line for hours. There was a line to get it done. Yeah. Yeah. But what does that mean? If you have a job, man, if you have a job and you're, you're supposed to be at work at 9am and you, you get to the COVID thing at 730 and they tell you it's a two and a half hour line, that's what it is. That's the reality. And most of those aren't giving you the results immediately. Not immediately, but enough where you could, if you got those results to say, you get those results in 18 hours, say you were going to plan a family function or something. You don't do shit for 18 hours. What I'm saying is like when the bubble, the idea of the bubble first started started with the NBA, you kind of contributed to that. Dave did it. Well, UFC did it first. Yeah. They did it and UFC did it first. But it always thought like, oh my God, you don't have to be a millionaire to create a safe bubble for you and your family, your friends. Right. No, you can do it now easier than ever before. But the problem with the governor saying it is other people will let us make a bubble and go to work because that's what they should do. What they could do is what we're doing here. We're just lucky that podcasting is an essential business. I think she's trying to jump down. She's not trying to kill herself. No, I mean, she's just looking over the edge. No, she's my emotional dog. I understand. Listen, if anybody gonna jump, it's going to be me. I'm in tune with her. She's the most adorable little dog I've ever seen. I've never seen a little dog as a puppy. Maggie River, she's five months old. She knows her biological dad and I'm her new dad. It was important for me for her to know her biological dad because I didn't want her to come from a place with like mental issues and shit. I understand. She's in tune with her mother. She knows her two brothers and sisters. They have play dates. She's a little cutie. She knows she's my little bitch right now. What kind of dog is she? A chihuahua pit bull. No. She's a far pit bull. That dog don't look like a far pit bull. What kind of pit bull fuck the chihuahua? A toy pit bull. Oh, really? Yes, she's a toy. How in the little ones? She's a chihuahua, a toy. Toy pit bulls are cute little dogs. Yeah, she's ferocious. Don't let that fucker sad ass fool you. Have you ever seen a toy pit bull, Jamie? I don't think so. They're really tiny. We know real pit bulls like the fighting pit bulls. They were like 30 pounds. They weren't big dogs. The ones that they bred for fighting. The smaller ones are the little demons. I don't even know if I can remember ever seeing a small pit bull. Yeah. Brian Cowan used to have a small pit bull. It was a tiny one and it was ferocious. That's where he gets his personality from. It's not him. No, he bought animals. We went to a guy who raised them for fighting. Oh, shit. Yeah. We were like in our 20s. Those are mostly puppies, but... Oh my God. Look how tiny. Damn, that little motherfucker looked tough as shit. The black one. The black lives matter one side. His face. Oh my God. That's ridiculous. See, that's the thing that they do. They take these dogs and they turn them into... But they break their legs and shit like that, right? Well, no. They just breed them. They do what's called... They select, right? So like a dog with shorter legs will breed with another dog with shorter legs and they'll try to select for certain traits. Like I used to have a dog that was from Hawaii and they used him for hog hunting. That's what they use his family for. So he had long ears. It was a dog's pit bull. Is that a thing? To Hawaii? Yes. Yeah. They breed a lot of pit bulls in Hawaii for hog hunting. And one of the jobs, because most dogs have... Do they go get birds? What the fuck does it do? Hog hunting. Okay. See, what they do is in the real thick brush, you can't really get to the hogs. Like it's hard to shoot them even with a gun. Like you're shooting through hundreds of yards of brush. But the dogs can go in there and get them and they'll hold them. They'll hold the pig. So there's a style of pig hunting. That makes the hunting easy though, right? It does. And then you shoot them. Well, they usually stab them. Hand... Like up? Yeah, it's kind of fucked. So they're going to shoot them. 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Like, they were brought over to why. And they're wild. And they have no predators. So they have to kill them. They have to control their population. So did they bring them over to kill a species or something? Like, I know that... No, no. They brought them over for food. Oh, OK. Like, Captain Cook and those dudes used to do that shit. They used to release goats on islands. I don't know Captain Cook. I know Captain Crunch. I know Captain Crunch as well. Yeah, that's the... I don't know Captain... Delicious stuff. Yeah. Captain Hook was an old pirate, right? Wasn't he? Cook. Don't say Hook. Hook was a pirate too. He was too. Yeah, that sounds pretty... He was a Disney pirate. Captain Cook, he used to go to islands and they would drop off animals so that the next time they came around, they'd have something to eat. That's smart. Yeah, so they'd leave goats on an island. I think that's how the goats got on Galapagos. I think that's how they got on a lot of islands. These pirates or sailors would drop these animals off. But meanwhile, these animals would destroy ecosystems. Yeah, but you had some fresh goat when you came back. Yeah, some fresh goat. Yeah, fuck the rivers. They had a lot of turtles too. They killed off a lot of sea turtles because they would take sea turtles and they would flip them over and put them on their back and they'd be good for weeks. And they would eat them. Yep, they would eat them because you don't need any... They don't need anything. Like they can survive just on their back for weeks and weeks and weeks and you don't have to worry about refrigeration or them. Yeah, but you can't tell somebody you're hunting turtles. You're not trying to do it for sure. That's slow as a motherfucker. If you're like, I fucking stalked this fucking turtle for three days. I think they probably get them on the beach, but if you got them in the water, they'd be quick. Sea turtles. When I was going out, we'd catch a motherfucker turtle on the road. And it was always one country motherfucker. He usually was a mechanic in a neighborhood and he had oil up under his hand. He always helped people's baby mothers with changing their brake pads and shit. This is one of those grimy, dirty motherfuckers that eat any type of roadkill. And whenever we saw fucking a dead turtle or something, we knew that nigga was going to be yelling out, turtle soup. Yeah, people like turtle soup. I'm not a big fan of it, but... I've never had it. Yeah. It seems like it would probably be an alligator, meaty type of family. Alligator tastes good. It is. Yeah. Everything tastes good when it tastes like chicken. That's the reference for anything it tastes like chicken. Yeah. I have frog legs recently. They were good. I've had frog legs before, but trying to convince a black person to eat frog legs is a tough sell. To order? Yeah. To get a black person to order frog legs off of a menu is like getting them to say, I want my steak rare. It's always got to be well done. You eat well done? No, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. Oh, but how do you eat your steak? Medium. Yeah. What, medium rare? I don't... There's a lot of black people that watch this show. They're going to be like, I'm going to tell you when he changed, when they start talking about blood. Medium rare. Yeah, when they start talking about blood, that's when he lost the streets. I could do medium, medium rare. I can't do it. I understand. I've had it like that, but my preference would be medium. I do average, you know, circle that I grew up around. My jujitsu instructor eats it well done, and when he orders it, I cringe like, John Czachmachado. Well done. I go, whoa. Do you know what that feeling is? Imagine a chef that gets to order and says, two well done steaks at table 49. They're calling them every fucking racial thing today. I'm thinking, oh, that's the quickest way to fucking... Makes my order a fucking well done steak. The chefs do not enjoy it. Not at all. They're not cooking it like that. That's a weird thing, like a preference thing. If you ask people's preference, it's not like you just cook it. If you order chicken, they just cook your chicken. They don't ask you what temperature you'd like your chicken breast. But they know. Yeah, well, they just cook it. But even pork chops, same thing, right? They don't ask you, but with steak, they'll give you options. Well, why the fuck are you giving me an option if I can't have well done? You should just have it your way, but it's just insulting. It is, but... It's insulting. It's an opportunity to insult, because they do have that as an option. Have you ever been a certain way, like, judged somebody by the way they order their steak? Yeah, I do, honestly. But again, John John Machado, like I said, I have nothing but respect for him. It makes me sad that he likes well done meat. I know this is going to be bad. People are like, what type of brother am I? But I took my sister out to eat once. She ordered the steak, and she ordered it well done. I said, I think you should order something else. I said, I'm not paying for a leather belt. Wow. And I didn't even have to eat the shit. I wasn't going to do it. I just felt fucked up. Well, you felt judgy. I didn't feel... I was judgy. A little judgy. Yep. I was like, let that fucking hood shit go. But isn't that the only food that we have that with? Like cheeseburgers, nobody gives a fuck. If somebody says, how do you want your cheeseburger? Well, in the black community... Well done. In the black community, when you say cheeseburger, for the most part, that's going to be well done. Yeah, it's just cheeseburgers. Black people don't want to see the pink in it. That's right. They'll tell you all the pink out. Well, you really should with ground beef. See, the thing with ground beef is you don't know what the surface area is. When you're eating ground beef, right, they take a cow's whatever and they grind it up. The stuff in the middle, like that could have been on the outside, right? So you don't know, like when you get a steak, you sear the outside, you cook the outside. There's no room for bacteria. Anything that could have grown on the outside is dead. On the inside, you don't have to worry about it unless it's rotten. That's why black people get their fucking hamburgers well done, Joe. That's wise. I'm saying it for hamburgers. We didn't know it. That's just what it was for hamburgers. You don't want to get food poisoning. Right. Yeah, hamburgers, unless you are right there when they grind it or you go to a top shelf restaurant where they literally, they'll take a piece of chuck roast or even for a mignon. Some of them do it with a lean cut. If you get a burger that's ground out of Philly, you're in the right neighborhood. You're in the right neighborhood. They usually add fat to it, believe it or not. To make it juicier. Yeah, to make it juicier. What is it with white people with blood though? I don't know. I mean, like, like I know this is a, but white people get a kick out of like the rarest they can order a steak, like the blood part of it. Like, yeah. What? Rare is weird. When somebody orders rare, or you know what blue is? Wait, you proud of the blood, Joe? No. Every time you post the elk picture, it's like you, you can't just show the meat. You want motherfuckers to see the knife and you do your picture, Joe. It's like you waited for the blood to sweat at a certain temperature. You know when it looks the bloodiest and that's the shot you always get. That's not what I'm trying to do. What I'm trying to do is show that it's cooked perfectly. That's medium rare with respect for the meat. When I do it, I use a thermometer. I mean, I do it nice and slow and I know you know how to cook. Don't get crazy. Wait a minute. Don't get crazy. Just try and explain something. Wait a minute, Joe. What? You're a man of wilderness. Yes. Right. And all that. You're well respected, right? Look at that, though. Yeah, look at that. Joe, look at that. It's perfect. Look at that. That's perfect. It doesn't get better than that. But you're proud of the color of it. Because it's perfect. It's perfectly cooked. But it looks, it's like, what is it? It's elk. That's elk. That's super athlete. I argued with someone because I told them that you like elk and I can make elk. And they were like this. You can make it. And Papa makes it. The last time I spoke to you about me cooking, you were very condescending. That's not true. Yes, you were. You were making fun of me. No, I said it the same way I said you got shot. No, okay. I said, you can cook? Yeah. And you're right. That's not condescending. It is. But the way you looked at me, you looked me up and down. You judged me. That's the difference, Joe. That's the difference. When I said I could cook elk, you looked at me like, what the fuck I got here. Let me tell you whatever. I heard you cook really well. I heard you have amazing barbecue skills. That could be borderline racist. Quite a few people. That could be borderline racist. That could be borderline. Isn't that like shit? What is your shit? Yeah, but you said barbecue. Listen, barbecue is one of the most complex forms of cooking. I know, but listen, when I hear barbecue, I hear barbecue. You've got to be really careful. You're doing it slow. Too much, you fuck it up. Too little, you don't do it right. And then it's hard to put it back on because it hasn't been sitting at the same temperature the entire time. That's the art of barbecue. When I hear barbecue, I think about the barbecue. I understand. Like Frankie Beverly and the whole thing. It's a whole production, not just one piece of barbecue. That's what I was saying. Barbecue in Texas is mostly white people, I think. And I, yo, I will say this. As far as my own personal experiences. I will say this. White people can fucking smoke some meat. They know how to do it here. I'll tell you that. When I first got it, I think it's a place called Blacks. I don't know if you found a favorite. Terry Blacks. Phenomenal. Didn't that franchise, didn't they break up like? Yes. They broke up. They used to be with the family. Then the sons started on their own. They started beefing with each other. That's the place I've been in. Literally, they had some issues. I don't want to air their dirty laundry on the podcast. Right. But the sons opened up a spot. Somebody stole the barbecue six results. Something happened. Something happened. Somebody gave up the six results. Terry Blacks in town has only been open since 2014, I believe. And it feels like a place that's been around 100 years. I mean, they got to dial in. That barbecue's off the hook. Think about it. They have to have it dialed in. If they came up generations and generations, they're just putting whatever recipe is, whatever the love is. No, they make their own smokers. They use giant propane tanks and they make their own smokers. Maybe that's what I enjoy. Next level. Yeah, white people level a barbecue when they start doing the machines. I should say they hire someone to make their smokers. But they get this dude to make these smokers out of propane tanks. They're not buying like a big commercial smoker. They're having this commercial smoker made. They gave us a tour. That's cheating the game, bro. They did an amazing job. They wanted it to their specifications. And those propane tanks are thick as fuck. It's heavy gauge steel. Fuck that, man. Where's the wood? Well, you cook with wood. The wood is on offset. You know how those smokers work? Right. So you have a firebox. The firebox is over on the side. And they're constantly checking the temperature and opening the flus. Make sure it's at a perfect temperature. And then you got the smoker, which is off to the side. And they're moving meat around because it's hotter where the air comes right in. Right out. But they're really well in. Oh, my God. They got it dialed in. Their brisket is ridiculous. It's so good. That's what I'm talking about. That shit milks your mouth. And it's in it. Don't come off bloody like that. It's a different kind of animal. That's that's that's elk. I mean, you could have elk and you could do it that way. They cook the neck meat that way. My friend, John Dudley, we're elk. Yeah. Neck meat because the neck meat is very strong and dense because elk has giant antlers. Right. And it's like elk's carrot. It's like it's doing weights with the elk doesn't have no fatty. It's no fat. No fat. No fat. No fat. There's a little bit of fat on the outside of them, but there's no fat in the meat at all. It's a totally different thing. So you got to cook it slow. So if it's anything other than that, like medium rare like that, it's going to be dried out. Right. You want it just cooked slowly and seared on the outside. So like I take a totally different approach if I'm cooking like a rib eye from a cow versus an elk stick. Completely different way of cooking. I know that because you never post regular steak pictures. It's like I eat regular steak. No, you don't. You don't ever. Once you did your fucking first elk, your regular steak pictures was just dead, man. Well, they're not as interesting to me. Regular steak is great. I'll cook it. I'll eat it. But the elk is like I have an intimate relationship with that. Everyone knows that. Of course they do. I mean, even when I tell people I'm going to do your show, they're like, damn, I'm going to take a bite of the elk for me. I'm serious, man. It's like, yo, you've done some cool shit. They say you do a lot of cool shit, but they've never seen you. And you told me, do I really want elk? And I was like, yeah, but I had I was in the hospital recovering from an injury so I couldn't get here the way I wanted to. That's a lucky injury in the sense. Right. I mean, all the things that could have gone wrong with your thumb, not even need surgery. Right. To get the bullet fragments out. I mean, that's that's how I run my life, man. I try to make it easy as possible. Anybody else could have fucking mad this injury and been fucked up if the pandemic can't stop me. Neither can this fucking thumb, man. Yeah. How does it feel? I know it's a crazy question. You get it all the time from being from a place like you were saying, like what we took advantage of. Yeah. And one of the things we never took advantage of stage time because we always did it, but not having it accessible to you all the time. How does it feel here with not being every like, you know what? I'm going to go do like fucking three spots and hammer some shit out real quick. Well, I haven't done that since March, you know, since the store closed down. There was no comedy at all in L.A. So it was right. It was a whole life shift. The only time I did it on the road was July and July I did four shows at the Houston improv. I had a great fucking. I just left there, man. Great place. It was. Did you feel I know this sounds crazy. I know we're going to get to some mad shit, mask shit story. But it's a club that had a certain capacity. Now they got to trim it down to meet whatever the mandate is. But people were in there temperature check. They were in there. Yeah. I know this sounds crazy. Some people were mass. Some people didn't have mass. And I'm thinking about not mistaken. They sell a ticket as a group. Right. I don't know if they're doing that now, but they're doing that a lot of places. And it's like you feel good about it. Yeah. And it's like people take away from that feeling because it's always somebody like, huh, where's the mass? Where's the mass? Right. There are people that are rightly upset at people taking risks because those people that do take risks could then get sick. And if they're irresponsible enough to take a risk and get sick, they might be irresponsible enough to go out and mingle with people when they know they're sick. But some people are like that. Some people are selfish. You know that, right? I know that. Yeah. So that's what you have to be. And they could even give it out when they don't know they have it. But you be asymptomatic. But then at some point, don't you have to be selective about the people that you engage with? Don't you have to be selective on the chances? This is my frustration. I'm not a mass or a non-masker. Like people make the argument, but what if I'm in the, what if I go to the grocery store and I have my mask on and there's this old lady that doesn't have her mask on, then I don't think you should go places where it could be people that don't have their mask on. Shouldn't you order online or something? Just don't get in that lady's face and you're going to be fine. It's man. I don't think you should tell some old lady that she has to put a mask on. I ran into an old lady at the grocery store. She didn't have a mask on. I was like, all right, what are you going to do? She's old, man. I mean, this lady, she probably feels terrible breathing through the mask. It feels like she doesn't have much time. She had one on, but she was doing this shit. I got your argument up. Yo, that change that you were doing. I get yelled at. I went to a grocery store. I'm getting a couple of items and I had my motherfucking mask and Joe, when I tell you the tip of my nose was showing the tip right here. And this lady's behind Plexiglas. She had sanitized and she was squirting the register. She had a mask, everything. And my shit went right to the tip of my nose. She's like, sir, sir, sir, sir, you got to put your mask on. You got to put your mask on. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. Then I got to pay. I do Apple pay. But to get into my phone, you got to open up the phone with my face. Yeah. So I put it down. Sir, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm trying to pay. I got to log in my fish. She was like, well, you can't do that in here. Right. You can't use Apple pay. I can't show my face to open my phone. You got to use Samsung pay. They let you use your fingerprint. Time to switch to Android. I don't have an Android. I don't have a that's very evil for you to add another. I know, but I want to talk about your phone, Joe. Why is it evil? Because it was the wrong time. It was the fucking wrong time. The thing I was making. So I had to tell you guys, you're dating. Sorry. This is what I had to do, Joe. I had to actually stand, leave the register, go to where I could do outside. Yeah. Show my face, open my phone and I went to pay. And then when that happened, I could have been pissed, but I couldn't be like, you know what? I'm just never going to go to that store again. Well it's just a lady working there. Just put the mask over your nose. I'm not going to put myself in a situation where I can get frustrated. I didn't. It was just for, is there any Apple pay? But you were already arguing with her, right? Is that part of the problem? I never said I was arguing. So she was already telling you, put your mask over your nose. So she was at a heightened state of. Frustration. Yeah, but she also, I don't know if it was me, but you know what? It was me. I didn't see that energy around anybody else. Perfect time to use the black card. I'm not going to do it. It's the nose card. She saw your nose and she's, some people are just like real sticklers for shit. You know Bridget Fettisie? No, who's that? A comic from LA writer. She told me she was walking on one side of the street and there was a guy across the street on the sidewalk on the other side. Yelled at her. Put a mask on! Let me tell you something. This argument, I know it's for safety and everything. I know it's for safety and what the lies we share and all that. But for some people, it's a perfect opportunity to be an asshole. Exactly. It's like, and that's the fine line. Do you really care about this mask or you get to either, there's discrimination against masked people and no, no masked people. It's just people have an opportunity to tell people what to do. They get mad. They do. Yeah, they love it. And then you want to hear to it, then they get mad because you're not listening to the rules. Well, that's why people are particularly upset at this Gavin Newsom shit. Because he's the one telling us you can't have large gatherings for Thanksgiving. Stay home, social distance, wear a mask in between bites of food. This guy's been saying all his shit and then he's doing something different. And now you go see him eating at a restaurant. So does that mean that we believe everything's what you got? So that's a perfect example of, you know, a lot of things are motivated through politics and looks. You know what I'm saying? Everything that you see, not what it's not really what you think it is. So how much how much are you going to put into a person? Like what their thoughts are? Yeah, not much. What kind of person wants to do that? That's the problem. What kind of person wants to be a governor? They're not normal. And you didn't care until the pandemic. When the pandemic rolled around, you realize, oh, the mayor matters. It really matters who you're. You know what? I think a lot of them like, like have dreams of a certain amount of fame and want to be a superstar. Yeah. Because even though you say you do it for the people, you have to be likeable or have some type of personality to connect with those people. And you're cultivating your act. They have an act to 100 percent. They have an act that's different than our act. Our act is to make people laugh. Their act is to get people to think that they're the person who's got the solution. There's our leader. So that act is to lie. Yes. A hundred. You know what, Joe? We're going through all of this shit. And even with this last election, whoever you decide you liked, appreciated, whatever, it was just a weird thing going on. It was a weird thing going on. And I was watching one of David Goggins post and I have to say, David Goggins, I've never seen nobody have worse feet than my feet. Oh, his feet are broken down. But he just got done running 240 miles. I know he was going to defend that. I was going to say the same thing, Joe. I know you're going to say, but what has he done with his feet and what have you done? So I know you were going to be like, you know how many mountains? Those are fucking rock blisters. Yeah, legitimate. I knew he was going to say that. And that's the point I was going to make it. That's a point I was going to make. He said everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Look at those big toes. Yeah. Those look like crazy. Like they've been through. That is hilarious. Those that thing on the left, he showed me that if you cut out like the right foot's big toe, that right foot's big toe. If you showed me a photo of that and didn't show me the rest of his foot, I'd be like, that's like a snail or something. People would say that people say that was my foot. That's a Mars Mars rock. But like you said, let me just zoom in on just the toe. Don't show me anything but his right toe. That's a rock from Mars. That's not real. But that's fucking a lot of miles, Joe. That's a brain of steel. That man has a brain of steel. That's the law. He knows how to force himself to do shit that hurts. Yeah. This is what he was saying. He said, and then whatever it is, he, one thing about him, he always has to remind you that he was a fat piece of shit. Yep. It doesn't like that's got to be fat. Must be the number one motivated thing for you. That toe. God damn. So if you didn't see the rest of it, you'd be like, what is that? Oh, that's a rock somewhere. That's on another planet. That's a satellite photo. That's a satellite photo. See white people. Y'all gross this shit. That's a satellite photo. You want to see blood and pus come out of that motherfucker. I know your thing like Jamie, go closer. But the point he made, son, he said, he said, everybody, I used to be a fat piece of shit. Yeah. He was 300 pounds. Yeah. I was 300 when I was a piece of shit. Everybody's looking for, I need to answer with this person. I need the air that person, but fucking, why don't you be the answer for yourself? Yeah. That's, that's, I know people like, well, that's easy to say, but why not? Find the answers you need in life through yourself. Right. And through what you do, your hard work in a, in a, in a type of person and type of human type of father you are. That's why people like him are so important because he'll tell you people like him are so important because he'll tell you he used to have no discipline. Right. So like, look at him now. This is not something he was born. Really quick. I got to interrupt. It's a funny, he said this because I was having coffee with Dave today. And then he said that about you. Cause I was talking about, uh, I can't drink no shit with my antibiotics when I got shot and everything. And then some kind of way we talked about you and then, and that's what he said. He said, I fucking love and respect his discipline. I do have some of that. Yeah. But I'm lazy too, man. I force myself in all this stuff that I do. Yeah. But you get challenged by something though. Something kicks you in the ass. Yeah. Well, I don't, I don't like falling. I don't like not doing what I'm supposed to do. So I forced myself to do what I'm supposed to do, but it's never easy. It's not easy. You know, it's like I always would think of discipline people as being like, uh, there was no wavering. They just got up and did it. But you know, that's the other thing. Goggins tells you, you know, sometimes I'll stare at my shoes for 30 motherfucking minutes for put them bitches on. Yeah. Cause you want to get rid of, look at the ugly ass feet. God damn son. God damn son. That's not what he's talking about though. I know this is the worst time Joe. I know this is the worst time Joe. I did a pivot. I just, I opened up my own store, right? And after I just saw David Goggins feet, you got to help me get that. Look at that shit. I know we sold candles. No, son, you don't know about that. He has haniness. Yo son, that is Joe. Put a little on your hand. Please put a little on your hand. It smells good. That shit is vegan. It's all natural. It's fire, son. That's what you can watch what I say, son. Watch what I say. Watch how long that shit lasts. Okay. It feels good. I know it sounds weird. Look at that shit, son. It smells good. It's just this shit, son. Raw edge. The ingredients are all on the back. I know you don't got your glasses. You don't have to read it, but it's like type of oils and coconuts I never heard of in my life. It smells like coconut. Coconut, a Google, all the black nuts and oils. CBD. CBD, son. Feel me? I don't know what this stuff is. When I- Mongongo oil? Yeah, Google it. Google it. Google it. And mad rich plant butters. Good, mad, yo. You laughing, son? You're laughing, but that shit is fire, son. I'm just laughing at the very real- Erykah-bot do put that shit on, right? I love it. Erykah-bot do put that shit on. Nah, that's you, son. Oh, thank you. Listen, Erykah-bot do put that on, son. And she started rubbing this stuff real, real slow. She hadn't been out in the pandemic in a while. And she was like, mm. She was like, is it edible? Wow. How high was she? Was she really high? Are you disrespecting my product or you disrespecting her- No. I was just talking about taking cream and eating it. I'd probably have to be pretty high. Certain people react to things differently, Joe. It does smell like food, though. It smells like a delicious peanut colada. But wait to it. But wait to it. It's like food- There it is. It's like food for your body is eating right now, Joe. And 100 milligrams of CBD. Yep. Look at that. Mongo oil. There it is right there. There it is. Cb and hemp seed oil. Cocoa butter. We got all the nuts. Look at this. When did you start this business? I've been a formula for two years. Scroll down. Look at that. I know. That's my- Why does it say too classy? Because that's the feeling. Go from ashy to classy. That's the feeling. That's the feeling you have. Look at that. I like the sparkle. The thing about it, Joe- Sparkling on your teeth. I've been ashy my whole life, right? You know that, everybody. Yes. And for years, people like, you should do lotion. You should do lotion. I'm like, man, it's kind of corny. I mean, it could be the novelty. Could be funny. Yo, ashy. Larry got his own lotion. And I was like, fuck that shit. And I met with this young lady, and she's like a chemist when it comes to this lotion shit. And we started working on it. And then when I finally tried what was the end product, I was like, this shit really work. Like, it really works, and it's good. It sounds like it's good for your muscles, too, if it's got CBD in it. It's good for everything. Your hands are going to thank me later, son. I believe it. What is the name of the website? Donner Rollins. That's where you can get it. Donner Rollins. Open up the stores, son. Oh, I like it. I like it. Look at you. Entrepreneurial. This is one thing that came out of this, and not just for me, Joe, for a lot of people. Think about this. A person that makes their money on the road. A real road coming. This happened to me. 95% of the money that I make is on the road. 95% of the shows I had are done. So the only thing I have from what I usually make is that 5%, and I didn't have enough for shit. Right. And even though you could have some money stacked up or whatever, you still got to, you got to ask yourself, what the fuck is going to be the pivot? I don't think the pivot is going to come for a long time either, in terms of us being able to get back to work. No, no, no. We're about to go out next summer. Next summer, you think? Joe. Donnell. Well, I'm not trying to say I don't believe in Corona right now, but we are on the track of not just deadening shit, but being able to have it under control. We're about to get to the point where people are going to have more sense of security. You know what I'm saying? Think about the progress we made in the year from when this shit first happened, you take a Corona test, you had to wait like seven days. Think about it when we first hit. We had to like, oh my God, it was so scary, so scary. And then all these ventilators, ventilators, ventilators. But if you know now since when the pandemic started, yeah, we still losing people, but you don't hear that ventilator talk too much no more. Well, ventilators are actually a bad idea. Now they realize. My point. They figured out a lot of things. They're finding this way. I did a whole podcast yesterday on COVID with Nicholas Christakis from Yale. He a COVID nigger? He believes that COVID is a real problem. Yeah, for sure. You don't. I believe it, but I believe it's controlled. A controllable. It is controllable. I think it's a multifaceted problem, and I think we're only handling one aspect of it, which is keep people from working, keep people home, keep people away from people. No, you can't do that. You're treating people like they're children. You got this is what you got to do. You got to let them go outside. This is what you got to do. We're going to have more creative ways to make money. Like think about the comedy scene. When we thought like the only place to tell jokes was on a stage and I was, I had some resentment towards some of those outdoor events, the parking lot shit. First time I saw one of those parking lot shows with horns, I was like, never give a heckler an instrument to fuck your show. I'm like, there's no way I'm going to these motherfuckers don't like me. There's no way I'm going to be. Yeah, but people are happy to be out, man. It's a different experience. That's the point I was making is like you, you could suppress people. You can call them down for a certain amount of time, period time. But after a while, you're going to have to figure something out. My point I was going to make is they're only looking at one side of it. They're not looking at telling people how to be healthy. There's no talk about that. Nigga. Yes, that's what's up, right? Son, you are strong motherfucker. All your niggas are strong. Jamie might be the least strong out of everybody. Stop with the things. Show your clothes ding off, man. Jamie, I'm not saying you're not strong, son. I'm not saying. Yeah, but you're comparing him to Tony Hinchcliffe. I'm just saying. Yeah, or Red Band. Oh, yeah, I didn't forget about. Yeah, you listen. He's got a deadly three pointer. He's got a deadly three pointer and he runs like Jamie's in shape. That's black shape. That's black people's shape. He's in. He does pull ups. That's black people's shape. Run, play basketball and pull ups and push ups. You do like the jail workouts, sir. Jamie's actually in good shape. I know. I believe I'm sorry, Jamie. I didn't mean to finish. I get it. He's back there. He doesn't talk a lot. I know. Did what he did when he found it. It's like, yo, when he found talks, Jamie, show him that video of you dunking, shooting three pointers. I never said he couldn't play basketball, son. But dude, it's impressive. Like Rain Man. No, no, no, no, you can't talk. We're working on that. He's hitting three pointer after three pointer like Rain Man. There's something weird about him. Like he's got like he might have a wire crossed in his brain. I didn't know he was nice. What I'm saying is to go back to your point, Joe, is everybody's talking about the end of Corona. Like Don Lemon, man. Don Lemon, man. Don Lemon. Son, four years, son. For four years straight, he complained. He was mad at Donald Trump for four fucking years. Yeah. Four years. And I was like, man, if Donald Trump wins this election, Don Lemon is going to jump off to CNN building. Do you remember all their faces when he won last time when he won in 2016? They were all so depressed. Jake Tapper and all those people on TV just like mother fuck. I can't believe this. Yeah, but here's the thing, Joe. I'm like, I don't think you're supposed to do that if you're doing the news. You're doing commentary. You can do that. Like if you're doing the news, you're supposed to say the news. Joe, let us figure it out. Joe, Don. Joe. That's why I do subscribe to the notion that fake news. Like to be honest, it's all fake. It's all of them are fake. It's a lot of fake and this is what I did. What I keep on telling people is like how I know you're upset, but when you're like you you're it's all personal like everything is you to the heart like well, that's where it gets weird. Those two guys Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon both of them. They do this editorializing and this like it's it's almost like they're doing a podcast and their opinion is all in it. And their opinions in it, but it's also on the other side too, but it's unscripted. Yeah, and they're doing it on a news channel. There's a lot going on there, but that's why if you don't there is another thing about the media if you didn't understand whatever party you agree with whatever that if you don't understand how easy it is to manipulate the media Joe. It is so so simple to manipulate the media to manipulate the media and if people listen to it, that's what it's about manipulate people. What do you mean by manipulate the media? But like you can create stories. You could create stories. You can make things happen. I got shot. Yes, I see I got shot my motherfucking thumb. That's what I heard and a lot of people don't believe me. I believe you. I don't believe that you believe me. That's what I believe motherfucker. That's not convincing. But the point I'm making is like when I got when I first got shot Joe, I posted on Instagram. I didn't want to post an incident because I know that I didn't want to get no war in the streets going on people like going out looking for the person shot me my thumb. So I kept it to myself. They didn't really bring it to me people's attention. I posted one picture of me being in hospital. Everybody's like you okay, you okay. They don't know how what I got shot for but they're just they instantly got connected to their story. Did you ever think of not posting it? I did. What made you decide to post it? The world needs to know the world needs to know a little bit gigs. I had to post phone when I was locked shot up not locked up and you know, I wasn't ready to share to the world that I didn't know how my friends was going to take it. Okay, then I wanted to be transparent to be honest. I let them know I got shot. That's what I did. You know, I see you feel like you still don't believe I do believe you. I think you just looking for a very specific reaction from me. I gave that up a long time ago. I get up. I'm like whatever else what made me nervous the first time I came up. I'm like what the fuck do I say say what you say nigga don't try to all right. I'm here. You are here, but are you thinking about bailing out of LA yet? I think so. Yeah, a lot of people are the reason that we started feeling when we don't. Well, you don't really need Hollywood like that. You know, I don't think anybody needs it anymore. Some people thought they did. You're right. Some people thought they did. They thought it was like you had to be here every night. I thought I needed to be there for a long time and then once what happened this situation, then you realize or what can I do you like wait a minute. I really can make my own community. Yes, I can make my own community. Not only that you get connected to all the other communities like and all the other podcasts. We all help each other. We're all together. I will say one wouldn't one thing white people do when it comes to podcast. They support each other. Yeah, we support each other. But you know what man? That's a new thing because in radio was the opposite when they had radio they'd attack each other like I remember Opie and Anthony was always at war with Howard Stern and you know Jay Leno was always at war with all the other late night. Chalk show hosts and but did you think that made people engage? Do you think that made people engage with their platforms? No, no, no, they would just they were just scared because they only had a like back in the day when you were on television or the radio you had a very specific time slot. You had 6 a.m. Day part to 10 a.m. Right. Day parts and other people are also on at 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. and no one's recording anything. So you have to listen to it live. I was a part of that. I don't know if you I was a part of when hot 97 was the biggest in urban radio in New York was the biggest and then I was I was doing radio when power 105 came and became a competitor. They had no competition at first. You know, it was just them. Then they got challenged and that would that's what made for interest in interest in shit between both of them is like, yeah, we talked shit about 97.1 97.5 then 105 then you start listening to both of them to see what shit they're talking. You could do that if you're them or you could listen and if you'd like it tell people it's good. That's what podcasters do. Like if I'm listening to your show, I'll tell people Tana Rollins shows hilarious or listen to this guy or listen to her or listen to what I'll tell people people. I don't even fucking know man. I tell people about podcasts that I listen to from NPR or fucking radio lab. What I always tell people because I'm interested in cool shit. I want to know about cool shit. And if I find cool shit, I want to tell other people about cool shit. I'm not worried. That's cool. Well, they they're worried about if they talk about something else going to take opinions. It's going to take attention away from them. That's what's called famine thinking. You can never them famine famine famine. Feast or famine. I'm a feast thinker. I always think there's enough for everybody everybody come aboard. I want everybody to be happy. I want everybody to make money. I want everybody to be famous. I want everybody to be happy. I want them to be fulfilled. I don't want to be the man that that idea being the man is to me is ridiculous. That's your idea. But in the outside of when you do stuff like that for some people in their perception of you, that's what makes you demand. That's what makes you if you able to inspire and motivate. That's what makes you demand that you know, you say you're not I'm happy if that's the case that people think that way, but I know it. I'm in a position to be generous. So they know it's they might hold it against you too. It feels good to be generous, but they hold it against me who is it against me people that don't like me they hold it against you that I have that I have you on know people that don't like me. They'll say hold it against me because you did like you because like the RZA podcast. Jamie Jamie exactly what he talked about. No, what are you talking about? No, they don't like you don't know you. Yeah, but like some people they told me they wasn't going to like you anymore because you liked me. Good luck. If that's how crazy you are they said they wasn't gonna like you because you but that's ridiculous anybody who thinks like that is out of their fucking mind. It was like normal. They were saying shit like this and I don't read the comments Joe. They were saying shit like this. They should like well Joe was right up to this point. You know, they like you had a track record like yeah, I believe everything said until he got loud mouth of there's a thing. I don't think anybody will ever understand the camaraderie that we all have right comics have them. It's a different world, but the podcast world is totally different. Yeah, I'm gonna use yo, yo motherfuckers. It's just like but man the podcast world is so fucking dope and the podcast world was ready for the pandemic. Yeah, the podcast people was like this what pandemic I get to spend more time with my kids. I get more time with my kids and you get to spend more time doing podcasts because everybody's free. Even if you have to do those stupid zoom podcasts, you're still spending more time doing podcasts. Yeah, but it's like you figured out like they knew it was gonna happen before it fucking happened. I came in right at will. I think I came in right at the right time. I don't think they knew it was gonna happen before it happened, but I think they got lucky. They got lucky that there look man back when I was just dependent upon Hollywood and gigs. I'd be fucked right now. I'd have no income coming in but you saw the future to sign you to us. I said this to you before like when you hear like Joe Rogan you hear about this Spotify deal and you hear about all this type of shit. Well, the blah blah blah and then you what you don't understand like I said Joe everybody wants to be you right now, but nobody wants to be you when people were saying no and equipment was breaking down and we didn't know we was gonna do it. You know thing is I never I didn't think about it that way. I didn't think like I know this is gonna blow up. I thought I like doing this. I'm gonna keep doing so you just continue to have fun. I just do what I like right all the shit that I do. If you think about it, I just do what I like whether it's stand-up comedy or whether it's UFC commentary or there's doing a podcast. I do what I like. I do what I like. I don't think oh if I do this it's gonna be huge. I just do what I like. That's the most empowering thing that is so hard. That's the most empowering thing that is so hard for people to feel comfortable enough to do it is what they like because to turn it in turn it into my this motherfuckers is fuck bitches all the time. You know, I'm saying they can't figure out a way to get a W9 or anything for it. People get they get nervous about the future to you got to be out. I have enough confidence in yourself to take chances. Do you think? That there are a lot of pussies out here. There's a lot of pussies is our country pussy. Our country has a lot of pussy in it because it's too easy to get by and it's human nature to become soft when when things are easy and when you're in any sign of any kind of struggle whatsoever. That's when the real pussies emerge because they can't wait with any pressure or they go well, you leave them. You see how bad they are. Yeah, because they fall apart any adversity at all anything but this is beyond that now because it's not beyond that now. Joe the reason why is beyond that. This is the thing that this is a personality trait or just as a side of not to say that I'm a fan of Donald Trump or anything, but it was certain things that I could understand where the thought comes from but how you articulate to people is all fucked up the way articulated to people is like certain people out of it. So people need filters certain people need like Kanye West needs interpreter. You know what he needed? He needed a coach because someone coached him for that second Biden debate. If you watch that second Biden debate, he was calm and cool that Biden work himself up and stammer and lie about shit and he treat it still attacked him, but he attacked him in a different way. The first time he did it. He was obnoxious. He kept talking over him. He didn't let him talk. It was ridiculous. Everybody wanted to shut his mic off, but then someone must have coached him for this or he realized himself to take a different approach. I'm gonna tell you something different. I'm gonna tell you something different. Whatever numbers you say the loser of this election still won breaking the record. I know in that second place still was second place with first place any other time in history with a shit of everything. That's nuts. It shows everybody realize it's important to find when you when you realize the guy like Donald Trump can become president you realize oh my god, it's actually important to vote. Yo, bruh, you know, it has to it to you see those numbers. Yo, it was like it was crazy. It was like certain places separated by 5000 votes. I know 10,000 votes. Yeah, it's tight and you could say you can make a thing. You make an argument. It could it went either way. Here's the situation man. Donald Trump. Let it be known that he didn't give a fuck about anybody but his face. Yeah, pretty much. That's it and I'm not saying if you if it's a numbers game understand that like there's a certain amount of people to help you will help you get elected. There's a certain amount of people. That's why you have strategists and shit. They're like if we do this we get these Robo calls here and everything, you know, it's the science of that. There's certain people that can help you get there. Well, if he but he never made no like if he softened his approach up, I think the base would not have appreciated it. That's the numbers. It's like love him or hate him. It's very polarizing for to hate him works for right for a situation. Whereas Biden, I don't think people love Biden something has to be I don't think they dislike but they hate Trump. The people that voted for Biden hate Trump most of them or just feel like we just can't do this anymore. That's a lot of vote voted for Biden. Hate Trump, but they're not excited about him the way they're excited about Obama or excited about Clinton or excited about a million other presidents in the past. Don million. Yeah, but for the most part every time it's switched over is because somebody goes totally opposite of what was going on. Yeah, there's a little bit of that but it's usually bullshit, you know, it's bullshit man, but I'm like man these old stories these old stories that they're repeating over and over again. Biden is filling up his cabinet with all these billionaire hedge fund people's like not hedge fund people like environment like the guy that is involved in environmental. He just just hired some guy that people have said about I don't know what color is. I was reading about the important environmental advisor that's important because he just worked for a fucking oil company to black part is important to me an environmental advisor was taking money from fossil fuel companies. They're like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, this guy has ties to fossil fuels and you're doing something with him that involves the environment. There could be a conflict of interest. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, if he's a black guy, okay. Yeah, we'll find out right now. I bet they probably listen. This is I think they're probably going to hire a lot of Republicans. I really do. They already started black guy. They're gonna they're gonna hire a lot of people that want to listen and in their defense. They're probably think some radical things need to be done to kickstart the economy right now. I'm kind of fucked. I agree, but I don't know how they're going to be able to work together. I think they're all dirty bro. We all work together. Here he goes. Biden just appointed his climate. Black man. Yes. Told you son. It's a fossil fuel industry ally. Black. There he is. Black. Look at black as shit. That's all I need. Joe. There you go. He raked in big money from fossil fuel industry while waiting to help oil and gas come or voting rather to help oil and gas companies. Look how he's greeting them is different. Look, he's like getting knuckles. Hey fella. My mother. There's a video of Lindsey Graham and Kamala Harris fist bumping each other. It's adorable. Kamala Harris reaching across the aisle. That was a good move walking by fist bumps. Well, she's the only good move. She's strong. You know, she was a district attorney. She got some questionable arrests on her. There's some shit that she did just prisoning people and keeping them in prison to use them as to fight wildfires and shit, but I in my community. I've heard people talk about her and everything like when she would you have trusted her you believe her. What I did believe in was when she got elected to be the first female vice president first black black president within a couple of days to commercials. I've seen on different urban platforms or just period is been you see a little black girl, right looking up to something you know, we see that shadow with her standing there and little black girls in the shadow black girls in shadow, but the little girls are just showing it's like this you could be that they feel yeah, they feel black girl joy. They see something that's she also you know, she didn't know she put but she didn't do just bad things. She did a lot of good things. She prosecuted a lot of child sex predators a lot of pieces of shit a lot of bad people. She wasn't just I feel like the situations where people should have been let out of jail and weren't but there's also like this is the thing that we have to realize when it comes to district attorneys and just attorneys and prosecutors and defense attorneys in general, they're trying to win a game and it gets dirty when I tell you what my people you haven't yet, but you I'm sure you will. Sorry, but when someone you're trying to get out of people or defend people the people defend people they know are fucking guilty and they'll keep shit from the prosecution. Even though they know they're defending a guilty person. They do it all the time. So it's just people prosecute people that they're not sure are guilty and they'll pretend they're sure that that person is guilty because they want to win and they'll withhold information that could potentially exonerate that person because they're playing a game when you let people play a game anytime you let people play a game and someone's trying to win. They cheat they try to figure out a way to do better than you with with influence by withholding things by holding things back. They know this judge. They're tight with this lawyer, but they try to win a game. You've made it a game. So you got a prosecutor and you got a defense attorney. So you got two competing forces. You're always going to have lies 100% because people play games. So that was the business. She's in her saying that she did this. So that was that's her business. That's her business and they are a business of words. Like you're saying there's no personal connection laws. How do I win particularly laws but laws are the word. How do I win with these words right here? Right. No matter what you think. How do I win with this? Come on. Kamala, you know, that's not right. We're not talking about right. We're talking about what we can prove and that's what Lords all about right. Well that is if you are a defense attorney, that's your job is to protect somebody and try to get them off even if they might be guilty. And if you're a prosecutor your job is to prosecute somebody you're not your job is not to go. Hey, we might be wrong. Your job is not to go. Hey, let's hope but the shady shit is when you don't play by the rules and you withhold information or or withhold evidence and people have done that in the past and that's when things get real squirrely because like okay now you're not playing the game. You're using your unfair advantage. But nothing surprises you. No, it doesn't surprise me. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make a person all bad. Right. She's not all bad. Like she's done a lot of very good things. And I read an article about all the different things she did including the different things that she did that a lot of people thought were bad like threatening moms threatening moms with they would go to jail if their son was truant, but it turns out no one ever went to jail. It was a threat and obviously it's terrifying to be a single mom. I think you might get put in jail because your son is just running around and doesn't show up at school. Because you work two jobs try to put food on the table, but nobody ever actually did get arrested and got one to do because it's gonna be too hard to prove that shit man. And some people and in some cases some people are and I don't know if this was case some people are too lazy in certain situations too. Well, I'm saying this is not a good idea to threaten the mother because she's a single mom trying to get by and her son is not going to school. It's not good to threaten her with jail time. But sometimes people make decisions. Yeah, sometimes people make decisions like drastic decisions like that. And maybe at the time they had a perspective that's different than the perspective that they have now. It's called evolution. I want everybody to have it. Look, I want them to have a clean slate. Biden and Harris are in there now. I think clean slate forget about but let's see what can happen. See what they can do best. These are the people they put into office. Although the cabinet, let's give them a chance. We want them to do well. This is what was so fucked up about Trump being in office. I don't think people want to do well. You're right. Exactly. So many people hated him. They really would rather the country do bad under him because if the country was killing it under him, he's like look it's killing it. I'm the best. I told you that everybody's like fuck at least maybe please even Trump supporters go into this one with a different attitude. Let's let's all together say we want the best for America. What's it what's done is done the elections over. Maybe you were a Tulsi Gabbard fan like myself. Maybe you like Bernie Sanders like myself, but maybe you like fucking Jim Bush. Yang gang. Yang gang. I love Yang gang. I love Andrew Yang. He's a he's an awesome guy. I love a lot of his ideas. But for now, we know where it is. What's Biden Harris? Let's let's go. Some niggas man Joe. Don't motherfucking Trump Trump Trump or you got different level of Trumpers. Well, there's a lot of people that think that's a man is a motherfucker don't want to hear shit son. Part of the problem is he's telling them that it's a rigged election. He's telling them that's what's so fucked up. But part of the problem is all elections have some corruption. They just fucking do they've been around for that enough for you to say nigga. When you leave it nigga, I don't think there's a keep his secrets and shit. Joe. Well, Mike Baker who used to be in the CIA was on Mike Baker or your Baker Mike. His name is Mike Baker. He was in the CIA and he came on the podcast recently. He was telling me that even if they did overturn it, even if they did rather like fine corruption the amount of votes you're talking about in most these States enough. It's not enough. Not nearly enough. It would have to be crazy corrupt. Yeah, like he's talking these muffled about five or six people, bro. Yeah, that's the Betty. No, no, it's not five or six people. They've got this. I think they uncovered just they uncovered two different things today in I want to say it's Michigan where they found a memory card that had more votes for Trump than Biden, but it's still it was close. It was like 1000 for Biden and 1000 a few hundred for Trump like four or 500 for Trump. Where did you get the memory card from son? I do not know. Come on. I think there's a lot of organization going to put up any memory card. So motherfuckers, someone who's counting votes got the memory card from the machine who told you that story. This is in the news. Which news outlet? It was in three or four different ones. And they all said the same thing. Well, they all said that there was a memory card that was discovered and they showed the counts in the memory card, but they've also found like other ballots that didn't get counted yet. There's just a lot of disarray. You're dealing with human beings that are counting millions of millions and they're counting a lot of them just paper. They're getting mail and they're opening it up and they have to find out what I didn't understand. This is what I understand. Joe. This was so funny. It kind of like backfired right that the mail-in votes is what killed Trump. That's what they're saying. Yeah, for the most part and the funny thing about it. Trump has the type of following that he literally could tell him to do anything. They're going to do it. He told motherfuckers not to mail in. Yeah, we wanted to make a point come in in person. Well, this is the how do you make a joke answer this question? How do you make that point? Understand making that point where you're not in the middle of a fucking pandemic. You don't understand like that that would have been a great argument in 16, especially for old folks, right? For anybody that wants to participate but the only thing they would stop them is if they're going to go outside and risk their lives. So you're not thinking to give that person the opportunity to be a part of it. Yeah, and that's the part that kind of fucked it up. Well, I don't know if he definitely wanted people to vote in person, but did he ever encourage people to vote by mail as well or was he always saying that mail was going to get a fraud son, right? Oh shit was crowds. I'm like, somebody's secret service break the secret. Tell this motherfucker that the Corona is out here. He caught it. He knows it was out there. This nigga caught it, right and gave all the secret service it give a lot of people a secret service can't say nothing because they see your service. They got to keep it secret. I'm sure they're young and healthy too. They probably shook it off pretty easy. Decided people don't probably got the same medicine. He got you know, the medicine is probably a lot of that medicine is called your immune system being up to par as much as like everybody is talking about this shit. The lazy route. No one wants to say just a little bit of that, but they also gave him a bunch of experimental shit. They gave him these this anti-bio antibody blood transfusion medication. They gave him what was it called Regeneron? Is that what it's called Jamie? They gave him some other what I don't know if it's experimental or if it's like recently been released. They gave him that medication. They gave him a steroid. They gave him a bunch of different things all at once. So he got a cocktail shit that made him feel great. Give a say not only that side how much is that cocktail? That's not no easy. I'll tell son cheap and he wants that to be able to be given to everybody, but I don't know if that's feasible at the moment like they got to make the money doses. Well, it's not just to make the money just to make the doses like say if they have all that medication and all the all that blood antibody medication and all this different stuff. They're going to give him the steroids to make that for 300 million people. That's so many people. So if everybody gets sick, you have a dose if we have one dose for every human being in this country, even if you have one dose for half of your money is right. It's all you would need 300 million vials of this shit. That's so much you're not going to need all of those and probably more than that because they wouldn't even multiple files per person. They wouldn't even make that number for every for everybody to get one. They would make that number. It's like it's got to be that number is going to be broken down by okay, what's the criteria to get this? You know, I'm saying well also it would be how many people do we really want to get it to because how many people are going to be sick at any one given time? It's probably never going to be more than 25% of the population even if it's high, but even if it comes out Joe motherfuckers, I'm telling you the certain motherfuckers are not taking that vaccine for whatever reason. Yeah, I think black community is fun. They got niggas ain't fuck with no vaccine to this like iPhone. So you need a third one. No black person is going to take it. I think there's a lot of people that are not going to take it but I think what they think is herd immunity once we get to 50% of the people that took it the virus will probably die off. I think it's going to be in that neighborhood of 50% of the people that had it if they if either 50% of the people either have had covid or have the vaccine for covid. They think we can hit herd immunity and mostly die off, but it can always kick back in again. That's what they're worried about that. It's going to be like the common cold or the flu every year. Would you take a vaccine? Yeah, for sure if it works. Yeah. If it's been proven that it works and I talked to doctors and they explain what the science is and how it works and then I talked to people that have taken it and they say, you know what the side effects are because with the covid vaccine, I think the side effects are you feel like shit for a couple days who can't deal with feeling like shit for a couple of times. Are you where you need you can't lose two days? Yeah, yeah, I would definitely do it if I thought it was safe. I don't know enough about it right now to say that I think it I mean that was one of the things that Nicholas Christakis was talking about yesterday. He was talking about the potential danger to the vaccine and I appreciate that he brought that up because it's such a sensitive area for people. They think that if you think there's a danger in any kind of vaccine, you're some sort of anti-vaxxer. No, there's a potential for danger of any medication when you're dealing with mass numbers of human beings. If you have 300 million people and you give them aspirin one, you know, I don't know what percentage but some people are going to die from aspirin or they're going to get really sick from aspirin. This the same with everything substances you put in people's bodies. Everybody reacts differently people die from fucking Brazil nuts. You know, there's some yeah, but they're motherfuckers want to waste time with these home remedies and shit man. They're home remedies. I mean, they're cool for some people but eventually man, you have to talk to somebody. Yeah, for sure with your if you got a real disease, you know, if you the people that want to cure like cancer by not going to a doctor like whoa, they can fix it now. Like there's a lot of cancers not all of them, of course, but there's a lot of can't you're way better off. Having cancer now with modern medicine than you were having it 15 20 years ago. That's all that remedy shit. All that like the best remedy for all this besides the medicine if you actually get sick so fucking take care of yourself. Right. That's what I'm hoping people get out of this more people don't want to hear that. Yeah, I don't understand. It's going this time. I don't understand how you could ignore that because it's convenient as long as you're not sick. You don't think you're going to get sick, right? You stay home. If you don't have to go anywhere, you just stay home and a lot of people just they just stop exercise and they stop eating well to stop drinking water and they fuck their body up. And then if something does you don't realize like how much of a difference it makes and being healthy and not being healthy when something hits you a virus hits your cool hits you you see like when when I got shot, so there you go. I had to get the IV. I had to get the fucking um the IV antibiotics. Well, you guys get IVs all the time. You're always doing vitamin IV on tour right off. Oh, that's such a good move. It is you do when we did that the first that was the first time I'd ever done that. Well, really vitamin IV. Yeah, I mean, I'm baby. I'd done one more. You got one in hard. Oh, I'm on it. Oh, you had everything open. You was like, give me one right here. You have your ass. I'm like what you got. You know, B12 shot my ass and I saw your ass. I was sitting right there. I'm like, I was like nigga. Take this shit across the street. He had his fucking stomach out in his ass out. I was like, I'm not scared. I know you're not. It was like, yeah. Well, the the glutathione was amazing. That stuff is great. The vitamin drip was amazing. We started getting them every week. We had we've slacked off though. Once we got here to Texas, we haven't been doing it in Texas. Man that motherfucker. I'm telling you about when I did yellow Springs this summer. That was probably one of the things that made that experience so amazing is that we were living in our own bubble. And playing by our own rules and everybody was having a good time and it was all productive. Yeah, you know worked. It worked. You guys put on a lot of shows. Adult summer camps. Yeah, it was like the shows were one thing but the thing that was great for me was just the whole sense of community. You know I'm saying like we would have potlucks and shit and then I would have all the Housewives of yellow Springs like a send yo. Don't motherfuckers out there don't motherfucking yellow spring chicks wives. They won't get upset with anything but a casserole dish son like they was looking for a Rachael Ray casserole this I had for like a week. They were stalking where I was living and everything but the sense of community man is like in an area is one coffee shop Dino's everybody go there is one grocery store. It's just one of everything. That's nice. And it was so simple. Well, that's better really than this. This is real good things about cities. But the thing that's missing is that camaraderie that sense of community nature. Yeah city slickers. They were calling me a city. So the videos of you in the river you guys. Yo Joe, it was the whitest greatest adventure of the summer. I became the River nigga. That's the original name. I'm telling the truth. But you know, this is so peaceful. I am at peace. Listen Joe. I first what does it say? I'm the quote there forever mood River Bishes love the River Ninja. All earthy bitches that got courts and rocks and shit. Yo, I'm talking about bitches farmers market bitches. I'm doing like I understand what you're saying. Love me like women with rescue dogs. Great picture man. Jamie get a piece. Well, I was son. I was a River nigga. I had to change the name. Get that picture framed. I need that picture. Let's let's get that picture printed on steel. Yo, who take the photo photograph? Federico Federico. Did I tag him? Yeah, where's various get ahold of Federico. We need that picture in the studio. He's such a talented fucking producer and everything beautiful. But that would be a great picture to frame in here. Yo, I fell in love Joe people think is the river. Like it's nature. Are you gonna let me describe me? Yeah, I'm like, yeah first name came up with Joe. It was River nigga, right? And I like that for the streets, right? But people's like, I don't know if we can put that on t-shirts. They're looking from a Marky brandy boy, right? And I was like, okay Ninja, you know me, but he's inspired by the River nigga. But ninjas for TV. There's many layers to the story many layers to it. Do you fish a fish? Did you go fishing at all when you guys are done? I didn't get a good chance to go fishing there. But this was me at a river in Georgia. Changes your mind, right? It's everything changes your mind when you buy a waterfall. You're like, oh, there's something about these natural things like Mount nature nature nature nature free as shit son. Yep, it's good for you. Look at me. Son. Let me tell you I know exactly they said when did I when did I turn into a River nigga, right? They say when did I turn when do I remember to change right? It was when. We got waterfall man. That's crazy. Yo, let me tell you the story son. So when we were out there, Chappelle wife used to make these events. Hey, it's family walk down like man. Fuck that. I'm from the streets. I'm not doing all that stupid shit. She all these days like every day had a goddamn adventure or start what's today. You got to look at the little brochure and shit. And then one day she did one and was kayaking right and I went on his kayak. It was me and my man Patrick. He's a yellow spring. He's a native, whatever and we were going down the river Matt River. I had a kayak. He had a kayak. We were smoking the joint and we just hear nature. It's like just straight nature, right? And then he said man, you know, this reminds me of he said this reminds me of when I was younger building ramps jumping ramps on my bike and me Fisher for crawdads with my dad. I was like nigga this remind me of looking for my dad. His stories the two stories were totally opposite. It represented one thing for him. Memories he had with his dad for me. It represented memories. I didn't have with my dad and the memories. I wanted to create with my son. You know I'm saying when I was out there Joe all of things like I got to bring this little motherfucker to the river to the river. He's got to be out here. He's got friends out there and my son came out there and the summer was beautiful. But one thing was missing no matter how you're celebrating in life. Right if you're not sharing with your family, it feels weird. Yeah, you know, this feels like oh man, I only know if this fair for me to have this much fun and although how great the summer was going when he came out. He was hanging with me on the river and shit man. It was like the best shit ever son. We were skipping Jamie. You're not skip rocks. Do you not skip? Yeah, it's in the wrist right? I was in the boys couch. Yo, don't say you're the boys cause today's why they might have played with your booty holes. Yo, it's a lot of them man. Don't tell me don't be proud of the boys. Pick another division said not the boys come but never happened to my booty hole. I had a great time. I want a bunch of criminals. That's what you do to boys. Yeah, we were skipping rocks. Like yeah. Yeah, I didn't know it was that much precision. It depends on the rock. Like you really want a nice flat rock nice flat rock. You could do some wild shit. When we were going out every day to leave Kweli right? He thinks he's a river nigga, right? He told us one day I could skip any rock. You know what he said? He said no matter how big it is. I could skip any rock. That doesn't seem likely. That's the fucking Brooklyn cockiness. He had right. Yeah, it's just like It was like the next time we went he wants to challenge me in rock skipping again. This time his motherfucker was pulling rocks out of his shorts. He had rocks with him already. He prepared. Joe, he can't see rocks. He came with all perfect flat River rocks. Oh, that's crazy. He didn't bend over. Is there a world championship of rock skipping? It seems like people would take it super seriously. I think it would I think of something to think I'm pretty sure it's done. I never thought about it to this moment, but I'm sure there's got to be a competition. Rock skipping competition and they got groupie bitches. Like yo the girls who it's off season for bowling right? They go after rock skippers. Yeah, we heard you had a 10 skipper last week. 10 skipper could get you a blowjob. That's what you so WAP. If you're looking for WAP do a 10 skipper. You know what WAP is right? I do. Yeah, who educated you to because I don't think no disrespect to your hip-hop or whatever. I don't someone introduced you to WAP. I don't know. Might have been Jamie. Was it you? Could be yeah because of the Ben Shapiro video. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, which was it? Because Ben Shapiro Ben Shapiro was like, you know, it's people self-own. They don't realize their self-owning right when you know, the songs about wet-ass pussies like well, that sounds like a kind of collagical condition. I would and people are like what but that's not the point. I know the point is but I understand that that's an that's I understand this point doesn't abnormal amount of moisture. Yes to be able to come up with a whole song about it. It's like it's a level. What do you think would happen if you came out with a song called hard-ass dick? I want to do it would not be received that well as with as minimal controversy is what I saw songs got to be answers. Right like answer to us on to wet-ass pussies. K. Michelle had a song you can't change a man. Right. And I flipped it and did a song called you can't raise a bitch. You can't save a bitch. That was the name of the song can't save a bitch. Do you remember when these two have songs and then they would have answer songs and then like there's been a bunch of those right where they would someone would have a song and then someone like someone would have a response song to that like scrubs. Yeah scrubs was then they had another one. It was I can't remember but I know you wasn't I saw you standing in the rain wasn't there one of those orange juice Jones. When they're an answer. I know any orange juice Jones if I know any answer to that I just immediately told how old I am to know orange juice Jones and how cool he was orange juice Jones was a shit that song was the best at a time. That was our original kind of song. They never a song that told the whole story of getting done wrong like that especially didn't tell it in the rain. Right like everybody knows that story. But you followed this couple in the rain. Yeah, and then at the end when he chopped up credit cards. Yeah, that's a G that go bitch get out of here. He had his credit cards and everything. Yeah. That was a song that made people happy. Joe I came over here. I'm not selling shit. You got more stuff. Yeah, look you remember this right remember my black ash, right? Yes. All right. Here. That's the real. Thank you. We kept the other one in California because we weren't sure if we're going to be going back and forth. Yeah, you got that one. Look at this one right here. There's some holes in this house candle. That's for a holiday. Oh, it's a ho ho ho. Not like HOE. There's some holes in this house candle. That's a yo. Look at this window Joe because I fell in love with Yellow Spring. That's one of my top sellers. Oh, Yellow Spring candle from the streets to the creeks from the hood to the woods from horse to oars from Adidas to Divas son. I got a whole store boom and this for the white chicks out there because I got a lot of white bitches up there. Okay, Karen candle. Imagine if your name was Karen and you were fine for like 30 years. Joe. There's more. Look at this. That's a hit like all sudden we turn into the home shopping network. That's what I wanted to avoid Joe, but at the same time at the same time I opened up an online store son and it's doing well. Okay. Do you have a website that we could just put up on screens to the leg? Yeah, you know these objects out one and after another Joe. You call it. No, listen. Oh, you have like a little thing you scam with the phone. You call them objects. I don't call it objects products. Man, give me my candle back. What is it if it's not a product? No, just if you don't want them Joe. I do. You're going to use them. I'll definitely use them. I like candles. Those are good too and they're soy to their soy. Yeah, their hand point in the you can have them back. I'm not in this. I don't do anything with soy. It's a candle man. Don't disrespect that people. What people get mad at soy. Soy is like a political fruit or vegetables. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People call you a soy boy. If you're a Republican people call weak men soy boys. That's like a it's an insult. I never knew that soy is one of the rare foods. It's actually attached to being a bitch. That's a pussy food. Yeah. Like if you're if you're a guy who's really in the soy and this is not my perspective. This is just I just think it's a fucking it's plant. It doesn't matter to me. Right. It's isn't that edamame. Isn't that soy like when you have edamame at a Japanese restaurant, isn't it soy? Yes. Yeah. Is that is that the case Jamie? The first time I ever tried edamame. I was so ghetto. I don't think yeah. And I was like my throat was killing me. So that's part of the outside. I didn't know anything about it. Damn salt and everything in the outside. The sea salt. Yeah, some see. So I never bowl of just edamame. It takes away from it. You wouldn't even want it. It's the whole process. Yeah, the whole process of like ripping a sleeve edamame beans are whole immature soybean sometimes referred to as vegetable vegetable type soybeans. They're green and different color for regular soybeans, which are typically light brown tan or beige. Yeah, so it's the soy. I like edamame. I don't mind soy, but a lot of people think of soy as being like bitch food. I never knew that I thought it was a healthy. I mean, I knew that was not the most masculine food, but I think it was like you stepped your game up when you enter the edamame lane. It's like oh shit. This motherfucker eat edamame name. I think there's a reason I think soy lowers your testosterone. I think it there's like estrogen. Yeah. Yes, soy isoflavones can produce estrogen like activity in the body mimicking the effects of natural estrogen. Yeah, but I think you can grow titties off of soy. Not quite, but it might feminize you. It might feminize you. Plants affect your hormone production. Do you know they actually develop testosterone like synthetic testosterone for wild yams like plants? Yeah from wild wild yams. Yeah, that's how they that's how they develop some artificial testosterone or exogenous testosterone. I'm afraid that that would be part of the whole Silas, Cialis and Blue Peel era. That's a different thing though. That's just blood flow. That's nitrous oxide. So why is nobody promoting wild yams? Not nitrous oxide, nitrous. What is it? Nitric nitric oxide. That's like NO explode all those pump things you do when you want to get jacked by lifting weights. A lot of those those supplements they mimic the same sort of effect just not to the same degree as like Finasteride like at like Viagra and Cialis and shit like that, but they don't they don't make you have more testosterone with these like soybeans and I think really for it to affect your hormones. I think it's just like it can it's a fat. It's a possibility like chemically but in order to actually do it. I think you'd have to eat some fucking preposterous number of soybeans. I don't think it's like some people really have to worry about it. No, I don't think it's anything anybody really has to worry about but I think it's just a stereotype. I don't even know that the thing for me. I didn't even know the stereotype. Yeah, they call it the soy boys. I didn't know that I thought it was like like you you're evolving as a foodie. You know, like the first time I had and I was like, oh shit. Y'all niggas don't know about the edamame's because I was introducing somebody else to it, but I didn't know that it symbolized being a pussy. It doesn't it's silly. It's people are silly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, edamame tastes good. They do it, right? Put a little chili powder and salt on the outside. I like it with just see so I like it. See salt too. I'm working at a stadium Joe. Are you really? Yeah, what are you doing? RFK Stadium. Where's that in Washington DC? When are you doing that? Thanksgiving weekend. Oh shit. It's not the stadium. It's the parking lot, right? You doing like an outdoor show. I'm doing an outdoor show. Just like the ones that Burt's been doing. Yeah, but you know, not at that level. Yeah, I talked to Burt about that. Shout out to Burt and shout out to the cab. Burt is the guy who started it all off. People aren't giving him enough credit. He's the these the OG of drive-through shows. Yeah, it was like it fit right into his whole shit. He never stopped touring. Burt toured through the entire pandemic doing drive-throughs. And I was saying to myself, is this like a throwback Thursday or whatever? He was like this and then the name of what was the summer? What was the name of the tour? The hot summer tour. I'm like this motherfucker, but he created a bubble and he fucking did it. Created a bubble, stayed drunk the entire summer and enjoyed it. Had a good time. I'm doing RFK Stadium. It's the original stadium for the for the Washington Redskins. The Washington Redskins used to do that. Beautiful. But for nine years, that was my traditional show at the DC Improv. I would do Thanksgiving weekend. It was a good time for me because I got to see my family. I got to work. That's a great club too. So great club. That DC Improv is one of the 10 greatest clubs in the country. And it's been probably the most consistent for 25 years. So good. It's just the perfect size. Perfect everything about it's perfect and they get every year solid. I don't even know that a comic can do bad in terms of ticket sales there. Everybody seems to do well. At least the line that they have. They book good lineups. When the clubs got that much prestige, they've been around that. There's certain clubs like Comedy Works where people just trust them, you know, there's a bunch of helium and Philly. People just trust them. It's gonna be a good show. They're not gonna book any scrubs. Right. And that's that's how the DC Improv is felt like they have developed a community. And I for nine years, I saw my son from the first time I took him up. It was just him in my arms and then the next time he was kind of like crawling the next time he was walking. Then he walked to the stage. I had like four years of pictures of his growth there and then because of the pandemic, I thought the weekend was gone. Like damn that blows a tradition. Yeah, and then they they made a pivot from the DC Improv to partnering up with DC pull-up or whatever it is and they doing the fucking outside shit. That's beautiful. I like that people are adapting. It's one of the things you're saying like you started this business and Burt started doing things outside and Tom Segura is doing like these pay-per-view shows. Tom Segura and Burt Kreisser are doing these and sometimes Christina, they switch out back and forth. They're doing these crazy live shows. I saw the shit that he sends me. I mean, I'll show it to you after the show the things they can see during these live shows. It's a hundred percent uncensored because it's pay-per-view. So they don't have to worry about YouTube. They don't have to worry about this whatever. They are showing the most fucked up videos I have ever seen in my life in my life really in my life. Like he he sent me three things yesterday that changed my idea of what's possible. Oh my god. Yeah, you want to do it do one of his shows. Yeah, I would certainly do it. If we were in town together and he's you know, Tom's talking about moving here. If he moves here everybody niggas moving out here. Yeah, well, we got the whole squad coming back here. We're gonna open up a club here. I'm down son. Come on down. It's better here. You don't have to pay taxes for state. People are nicer. The bar. They said the street on the streets. They said they know the streets. They said Joe a stupid son. The streets that nigga said I'm getting the fuck up out of here. So well, I saw the writing on the wall. I'm like, they're not gonna open up the clubs. If you don't have a comedy club open, I can't stay. If I'm if if the comedy store is open, there would be no reason for me to leave LA. I know but did it at the same the same on the flip of that. Just because it's not open. It's not no reason for you to be in LA. Be that you can create it. Well, the only time I could create it though is in an absence of the club. So because I wouldn't ask people hey leave LA the comedy stores hopping and killing come to come to Austin. But when you can't open they can't they're not a allowing them to open and it could be years. Who the fuck knows now? No, right. Here we are now eight months in no one ever we thought it was two weeks, but remember when you thought it was two weeks. So it was two weeks, but then again even moving forward Joe, we got to remove the possibility of something taking you got to remove yourself from the possibility of somebody taking something away from you and like with like that. Yeah, like that like like what the way you're thinking and the way Dave has thought throughout this summer is that I was like, yo, we really can make this shit. Well, also what we were saying before that we were all connected to Hollywood because we thought we needed Hollywood in order to get us on television or to pay our bills. We needed to get hired and then once podcasting came along, I think people realize no, you don't you just need your friends and you have a bunch of funny friends and everybody's tight and everybody tells people hey go see, you know, Theo Vaughn's at this place. Go see this guy. Go see that guy and we all get along together. We don't need anybody else. Joe the toughest part. What did I notice in this podcast world, which is predominantly white. That's the truth of it. You know I'm saying it's like there's a lot more white cars podcast when it comes to that when you say like the friendship part of making money. They really about that life. They really do it. Yeah, they really do it. They don't talk about it. Every one of the guys that I've done, you know from the Leah from Bobby from the whole crew. It's never know all man. It's like everybody helps everybody. Everybody's friendly and there's only a few people in the podcast world that don't have friends. They're weirdos. I don't know. They're out in the fringes. Those poor people they they a lot of people go into things with like a legacy attitude and the legacy attitude that you know from radio is you competing against the other people that are doing the same thing, but the podcast world is not like that. But some people are like that like some people will complain if a guest is on this podcast and then on their podcast, they'll complain what you were just on that podcast. Now, it's going to take away from people listening to me. They got more shit to talk about. You ain't got no life. Well, no, I never understood that Sunday like all I'm like nigga every podcast I go on it's talking about something else. Not only that but if you go on a podcast and they like you if you go on a podcast and they like you and then I hear now you're going to go on Bobby's podcast. I'm going to watch you on that podcast too, right because it's not like I'm going to like I do one podcast and now I'm out of time now. But I'm not more time. This you're going to have another week is going to go by where you want something to listen to and then more people going to listen to you on Bobby's if they heard you on somebody else's and here's the thing Joe if you're interested enough for motherfuckers want to listen to you. That's it. If you could do it the toughest part this week, literally, it's I think the anniversary of the first time I've ever was on this show really. I think it's this week. Jamie's checking. I heard those fingers. My producer don't do that. Don't be looking me right in my face. I'll be trying to It is right. Yeah, I guess was it was that you run before that right? February 19th. Now you run before that one that before that one. No, this is the first one we talked about the RZA shit. That was that was a year ago this week. Yeah, that's when November 12th. So be happy you've been on longer. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm just saying when the last one. Yeah. Oh, yes. So I know you guys want to break down the story. It's not that sentimental, but I was just saying I remember the dates. Yeah. No, I guess that and it's been like it's been I've been doing it for a year and it's been it's been interesting. It happens, right? It gets picks up steam picks up momentum. I see on your Instagram stores. You're putting or your Instagram out of you putting clips up to little assets excited. Yeah, but you know, you would like everything you said. It was like once I got on the mode like I'm like, this has to be the greatest episode. I'm like, wait a minute. I'll start looking at the numbers of the most successful people in the podcast world is like episode 1580. You know, so I'm struggling for like, yeah, this is the 30 episode anniversary. Well, you know how Goggins tells everybody used to be fat. I tell everybody go to episode one. It's fucking terrible. Right. It's terrible. We didn't even think it was a podcast. That's how terrible we were doing it with just answering questions of a Twitter and being stupid while we were high. No one thought it was ever going to be something that millions of people listen to. So when we started it out, it wasn't there was no expectations. Now people have expectations. They want to know you realize like how much money is in it. See all these people that get big deals. You see all these people that are on, you know, number one on iTunes and number two on fucking Spotify and you go fuck there's a lot going on. This is a whole network that you don't need a lot to get into man. The number one thing you have to do and I kept tricking myself and we had talked about it was talking. Can you talk? That's ridiculous that you don't think that you could talk. It's one of the most funny things I've ever heard. So I mean with no response just like talking to myself. That's easy. You know, I'm saying it's like, you know, I got a better chance of making a thousand people laughed in one person. True, you know, but it's been a it's been a great ride man. But dude, dear you over there Julius, you know, who's the best at just talking Bill Burr that motherfucker just he never has a dead moment. He will start on the subject and like, you know, and then you know what they want to fucking do and then I used to be an hour later. He was one of the guys that had it. I was like, what would your style be more like? I just like I don't want to fucking talk to nobody. I just want to say what I want to fucking say and fuck you and then it was like the Monday rant or something. Yeah Monday morning podcast Monday morning podcast and it was just like I was like this motherfucker can talk shit for whatever. It's like whatever. It's like a dude that goes he like wins all the bar fight conversations and it's the perfect platform for that. Oh for Bill. It's the perfect platform. One of the things he used to do is he used to use his cell phone and this is when God the early days of the Monday morning podcast. I don't know when it started. I bet you it had to be around 2006 7 or 8 somewhere around that. It could be I don't remember but what I do remember is that he did a bunch of them where he like left voicemails. So he would call himself or call a service and leave a voicemail. Really? So he'd be sitting there at the airport talking shit about some dude's haircut. Oh, yeah, I remember those. Yeah. Yeah, and then he had some way it was just just him really ran just yeah, the audio quality was fucking terrible because he was literally talking into an old phone at the airport and then leaving a message somewhere and that message became the podcast and you know what and it was hilarious. It didn't even matter quality of sound that I did was funny just like when I told you that time when Jamie was supposed to help me produce and did he fucking reneged on me. Right, right. He got real mad at me. Whatever. I remember is like it was yesterday. I understand. I don't know how those two are connected but but Bill Burr when he when he first started out like that was literally the perfect platform for him in podcasting like he's good at interviewing people. I've been on a show before other people have been on the show before he'll sit and talk to people. He's fine. But as far as like ranting, he's the best. Yeah, he's the best from an angry place. Yeah. But he's also been doing it the longest. You got to think how many fucking years he's been doing that podcast where he just that muscle is flexed. That muscle is tight. He doesn't need like you can form an opinion, but he doesn't need the response. Most people right need to response in the feedback. How how else do you know if you're doing good or not? Yeah, he doesn't think about that. He's like in another thing. I was watching Seth Meyers the other night and it was a he was doing this monologue or whatever and it was going okay. And then he some people in the background were laughing and you could just see the posture and everything change. Once he got a couple of people laughing. It was like that's important. I heard his Netflix specials good. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I saw a clip on it and it did not look bad. It did not look bad when this is this recent because I know he's had one. I want to say his Netflix special was at least a year ago because it's pre-pandemic for sure. I didn't see the entire thing and I saw some clips and I was like this is good delivery. It's good writing and I'm not I don't know that Seth Meyers like really had a long background stand-up. Did he know he had a background doing that show doing the monologue for the show, but I think it was very good. Whoa, I thought it was solid. Did you ever see it? Jamie? It's solid. It came out the end of October. You're right. Jesus. That's not a good time to be coughing. It was very good. Into what I saw the clips. I didn't watch the whole thing but most of the guys were in him to SNL. But you know there's some people that have done talk shows and then tried to do a stand-up special and they don't really have the chops for it. But that didn't seem like that with him. Yeah, he seemed very relaxed. I was a beast for a while. Well, he probably he probably did the right thing to he probably hired a bunch of writers. I mean, I didn't see all of it. Maybe the part that I saw was the only funny thing. I really have no idea. A lot of those guys, I guess when they like when I guess to be buried into that show like that. Yeah, it's hard. You really have time to go out and work out and know it's hard and work that but if you could do it like Jimmy Kimmel could do stand-up for sure. 100% Jimmy Kimmel. Why do you stand up 100%? He could do it. He would be great about Jim Carrey on SNL. That's buying. I didn't watch it. None of it. Nope. Not one piece of it. Not a piece. God damn son. I got shit to do. If I'm going to watch something, I generally when I get home, I like to watch like things that have nothing to do with what's going on right now by the end of the day. I don't I mean like Doc. I mean, yeah, new Netflix special. Let's you skip the Trump jokes. Oh, there's a button. You can skip Trump jokes. If the intro on Netflix, you could see the chunk of stuff, but this is him talking to people. So he's interviewing people. This is just interview about it. Oh interview about it. Okay. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Well, that's a good move because people are tired of Trump jokes, you know, it's one of those people like enough. Already man. I've been tired of him and then I'm like coming back around for them to come to be frustrated to be frustrated when a dude is on his way out. You know, it doesn't make no sense. It's like he is still getting to you. You know, it's just a matter of time. If you want to say the people the voice of the people's was heard. It was a close situation, but it is what it is and he's gone. Why do you still man people have some legitimate gripes and I understand where they're coming from. But my perspective is it's not changing anything and it's not doing you any good to still be holding on your if you were anti-Trump Biden's seat. I mean, I don't think it's 99% official, right? They just haven't said it yet and they when they say it then he will be become president and then Kamala Harris will be the new vice president. So concentrate on good things. Now. It's over right. But people are so obsessed. I heard the fuck it's the other day. I might have said this earlier. Look at Mike Pence. I'm having a meeting with no mass man. Okay, why you still keep getting mad because this motherfucker don't have a mask on it's got to be something else to talk about something. But this they they want to talk about negative things. That's the thing. Some people get addicted to talking about negative things and they can't regroup even after a victory and now focus on positive things. They want to continue to focus on negative things and I can see their perspective too, especially with all these crazy tweets. Like I won that election, you know, it's all fraud. It's all this it's all that like man. If you've got some real claims now, I don't know what the claims are. I haven't really honestly investigated them. But if you've got some real claims, you got to present the evidence and then once you present the evidence you say all the stuff like I got robbed. I really want it. If you want to be in a position where you're respected, right? If you're the president of the United States, this is an irregular guy. It's not like if you were involved in some ridiculous like small neighborhood election and you were joking around on Twitter. I won that fucking election. That's that's that's to be expected. But when someone's in a position where they're in charge of the nuclear football, they literally are the commander in chief of the greatest Army the world ever known. They're firing motherfuckers. You're saying shit like that and firing people that don't agree with it. Fire them up. Fire motherfuckers did like I know these other places like what this would be a great time for a fucking terrorist attack right now. Well, one of the guys he fired what the guy said was he didn't believe there was widespread voter fraud. He's like, you're fired. If you don't believe that you're fired. Like this is this is like a madman. The interesting part for me is like you trying to switch the thoughts of a person that is a huge Trump fan is a waste of time. We only gonna be the only thing you're going to be as frustrated. See, here's the thing though. I don't know and this is where it's really important. I don't know exactly how the election went down in terms of like was there like 0.01% fraud was was there 0.5% how much fraud was there? We got to assume that when there's people counting stuff there's some fuckery going on. Yeah, but the fuckery that's been reported. It's been like still no more than like 40 people. And then the only other problem is that it's all done through these machines, right? And then there's been all these conspiracy theories about machines that were supposed to have been giving the votes to Trump gave those votes to Biden. Now I could repeat those things, but I don't know if they're true, but I don't what I do know. You know I'm saying I do know is that but I know Georgia. I know the motherfuckers pulled all of envelopes up to the building and they cut them open and they took a man by hand. They did him hand by hand. Yo those ones that were recounts or whatever those you can't is no machine that is hand by hand. Right. It's fucking problem. And how does that work? Did they someone watch while they do it? Like do they have a supervisor because I would imagine you would want to have like almost like two people watch while one person does it which is so ridiculous, but it seems like you kind of if you don't trust people, I know you don't trust you kind of have to have someone watching it. That's part of the argument that Trump's administration was saying too was that there were certain counts that they weren't allowed to observe. They had to be really far away and they couldn't actually see. That sounds like people that like soybeans. But that's the very soybean is that's a very soy boy attitude. But what if you're telling the truth? Here's the thing. I don't know and you don't know either. So if they were telling the truth and people were counting votes incorrectly or they find no evidence of that every time they I don't think they have either every time that they they've came out with all these losses and they're dropping them dropping because there's no evidence of it. He's probably made he's he's had to have made every argument he can make. No, listen, I agree with you. I agree with you. There's no evidence that they can present that's going to show people right now that there was so much voter fraud that they got to return everything and start all over or they got to give it to Trump. Like I agree with you. I think this is what all these experts are saying. They're all saying that even if there was voter fraud, it wasn't enough to tilt the election one way or another, but I don't know how these machines work. So if I'm even commenting on it, if I'm saying they couldn't have done it, that's ridiculous. I'm saying they must have done it. That's just as ridiculous. I really don't know. That's like when you're talking about voting, you're talking about how many millions of people are voting and all this information is coming in and they got to sort it out. You're going to have some mistakes. There's no way around it. But the question is, does it overall balance out or are the mistakes all for one side? If you find out the mistakes are all for Biden, then you're going to go, huh, really? Well, who owns the company that makes the machines and then who, how are they financed and who programmed that and how are they programmed? Is it possible to fuck with the data? It is possible. Can you show me how to do it? You can do it. You should, but so say everybody wants to know exactly what happened. I think there's very few people that know exactly what happened. I know. I know the machines and all that type of shit. But when they take the machines away, they say, okay, we're counting these hand by hand. The results of that have to be official. Yeah. Well, they definitely should understand like the machines, but they was like these melon motherfuckers was they they had to fucking count every vote. Yeah, it's a matter of how they're recording it, right? You would want to make sure that everybody recorded it accurately. I don't know how they do it, but I would imagine that when I was talking to a guy like Mike Baker and who's saying that even if there was fraud, there's not enough fraud to overturn it. I would imagine he knows some things. Yeah, I don't I'm a moron. So me talking about he won. We all do that. You know, we talk about he won. She won and there's no way there was fraud or it was definitely fraud or I think Trump won. Won by a landslide like people get they get real connected. They get real connected to who's who's winning or losing this election and I get it. I'm gonna miss Donald Trump, son. Yeah, I like not going anywhere man TV man. I'm gonna miss him on TV. This motherfuckers TV persona is sucks. What sucks that it's TV persona is like he's a TV motherfucker. It sucks that it's even possible that someone could monkey with an election to the point where you change the outcome. It sucks that that's even a thought that we could get into our head. That's what's one of the crazy things about people. We're so nuts. That was even aside like people that are good people will do some shady shit to have their candidate win. Yeah, for sure. That's politics. We're so crazy. That's politics. Anything goes anything. Yeah. So what bothers me and I do think that Biden won the election and I do think that I mean, I think there's probably some shenanigans, but I think the result is most likely correct. But it bothers me that there's even a question. It bothers me that anyone would ever think that anyone could fall, but I think that there's Republicans think Democrats could do it and I think there's Democrats that think Republicans can do it and I think it's it's going to be real hard to 100% trust the election. That's one of the things that's kind of dangerous about someone going after it. This election is rigged. This election is rigged when Trump is doing that. He's encouraging people and you know, maybe that's a good thing if they are rigged because maybe they're going to be able to figure out how to stop that from happening in the future or maybe it's going to road or maybe it's going to road people's confidence in the elections and the more he does it the more it erodes and the more it gets dangerous. There's a real argument for that too. But listen again, I'm I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about man. It's just. I know it's nuts. It's nuts that you would anybody would ever think there'd be any voter fraud on either side, but we know that people have done it like that's apparently how they got JFK in wasn't there like some crazy conspiracy about the mob rigged votes for JFK and that's how he became but wasn't that a thing Jamie? Yeah, I've heard that ever been proven. I've heard talks about recent that they were in such odds with each other that they would never have helped. I think he was really at odds with them afterwards because he didn't look there was the the thought was that was one of the reasons why he was assassinated that he kind of doubled back on his agreement with the mob. I heard they were just helping local politicians. Oh, he didn't trade his streets to the president. Well, his family were drug runners. The Kennedys were moonshiners. They made their money selling bootleg liquor during during the time where it was illegal. They were basically drug dealers and then they became this gigantic political dynasty. They were Trump's not the Trump family, but they motherfuckers they were more gangster than the Trump family really because they're their literal background was in drug running like bootleg liquor like much on his drugs. That's drug running. You just don't think of it now because out of all legal deal. They were truck runners. Yeah, and who had the shit connected to the mob and they were connected to the mob like you don't think they fucked with some numbers. You don't think there was some corruption who has the fucking money. I think there's an assumption to the both sides are going to try to do it. I mean that was white. That was a water gate. It was also just election man. It's going to be interesting to see can can can Biden work with two parties both parties. I hope so. I hope they I hope they prove like the polarization of people that are opposed to Trump being in office and now they're not Republicans and Democrats. I hope they work together. Yeah, man. That's what I hope that's what I hope they work together doing fast to the Biden is don't got like a lot of time. You got to get used to President Kamala. That's what you got to get used to. I said it man. She's going to be the first person. I said it. That's the position. I don't see how we can do eight years. So what if the kind of strong and for I think for he's going to keep it moving man. Who knows that's not about said it don't say that's it. Get ready for your first female black president because this is the setup for her. She certainly could win. They're grooming it. She could she certainly could take over too if he dies or if he can't medically continue anymore. But here's another thing you got to think of they're doing shit to people that they're doing some wild shit in terms of medicine and regenerative medicine and stem cells and they just hook him up to stem cells every day. Really shoot him up with nad and vitamin fees and steroids and growth hormone. You never know. They might keep that motherfucker around for a long time. How Joseph Kennedy made his fortune hint. It was bootlegging. This is wasn't bootlegging. Oh, it wasn't. Oh, I can't see the end because the white shirt according to this biographer that is a rumor that started in the 60s and 70s and they're trying to figure out who killed JFK and maybe it was a mock shot. They were in that business that sounds like the Kennedy families trying to cover up their dirty tracks. It's a rumor the fuck out of here. Nobody has is a rumor about you bootlegging ever. I'm just I was looking because I've heard that too. But like it right away. Okay, like in the stock market and that well, maybe maybe bootlegging too. Let's try another source. Let's see. Joseph Kennedy was a bootlegger type that in what well that story is going to come here the Daily Beast the myth of Joe Kennedy's no, so it is a myth. I don't know where I would find the correct story to you know, I know right like how do you know who's telling the truth and whether or not it's a his big old historical cover-up like if you were bootlegging how much information would there be about you being a bootlegger unless you got arrested for it for me. I think cops were probably in on bootlegging back then. Don't you think everybody that could make money was involved with or everybody. What is my piece? What I want to do you probably were angry that the bars were closed to their and then they wanted a couple bottles. Give me a couple bottles. Come on. Honestly, you can do whatever you wanted to imagine if that's how we lived right now. If booze was illegal. Imagine as much as people drink if you had to do it all secret you had to like have a big dude by the door yet have a password to get in you always worried about getting raided by the cops just so you could have a drink but people would do it. They did it. They did it for years. They made organized crime. That's where like Al Capone made all of his money. That's that's yeah, that's the argument that's going on right now with with the Mexican cartels like the reason why they're able to make so much money is because all that stuff is illegal and they're consuming it in the United States. So you're playing a stupid game. You're pretending people aren't taking it when they are you're making it illegal because you said they shouldn't do it. But you want to control it. And then they want you're just empowering organized crime and that's what they did with organized crime in Chicago. That's what they did with organized crime in a lot of areas this country where they had that's why I wanted to position people that they had influence over to be politicians for sure. They had so much money and back then there was no internet. Nobody knew it was in your bank account where it came. Shut that ding off. Jesus Christ. Sorry, man. Do put it put that shit on airplane mode. What are you doing? Do you know how to shut off the ding? No, come on, man. Stop disrespecting me. You've done it a few times. I don't understand why it keeps dinging. All right. I'm sorry man. Oh, Don. Now Don. Now see you can't say shit. Now. You don't even know how to non-ding your phone. Shut just shut the fucking ringer off. I didn't flip it up. No, you got to flip it up towards you. You're keeping it down which is off. Okay, I don't know. Dang. Yeah, I'm sorry man. It's gonna ding from beyond the grave. He is down here. She's adorable man. Man, what were we just talking about? I don't know. Do you remember Jamie? Oh, Kennedy's being a bootlegger. Oh, yeah, maybe you were. I might be full of shit, but we didn't know you for sure. I did the story but it was like there was just a rumor. Right. For sure. There's a lot of organized crime money and fucking bootlegging. That's a fact. I'm on an arbards cuz I got shot. Yeah, you can't drink for how long? Like three more days son. Refreshing though. Keep your body a little bit of a break. It is but I'm... It is. You miss it. You looking for it? Nah, not missing it. You know what I'm saying? Like after a show, a little shock. Right. Well, you know, I just got this for all the people that's been in the streets and got shot. Gotta get better. Are you nervous for the country right now? Are you nervous about the future? No. Not at all? No. I believe that we always gonna find solutions to stuff. Like the first thing like you mentioned about people that need to work whatever. The first thing that's gonna happen is there's going to be some type of stimulus package approved. Motherfuckers gonna feel somewhat security or a little better if they have some money to be able to do something. But this is just something that... This is just something that we're going to get past. It's just a... It's a matter of time. And with the vaccine being on board, with them having more ways to test somebody in a faster manner, that don't cost as much, I think it's going to change people's attitude, the way they feel about certain things, and things that start turning around. I hope you're right. My concern really is about how hard it's going to be to turn around the economy with that many people out of work. That's what my worry is. So many people are going to be broke and so many people are going to lose their houses, and so many people are going to get evicted. I just don't know how they stop that and turn that around when all these jobs are gone because all these businesses went under. That's what scares me. It's like that this wasn't anticipated. I think there would have been another way to do it. They certainly didn't lock down as much out here. Not nearly as much. And then that's a good point because I mean like, whatever you worked for, whatever just could be pulled for money. You're just like that. That's the thing about like, you can't say that the people that are upset today are soy boys. They can't say that they're all pussies because there's a lot of people that are upset through no fault of their own. They lost everything, right? You could be the most disciplined guy in the world. You get up early every day, you work hard all day, you build a business, and then all of a sudden, COVID comes around and you find out your margins are a lot smaller than you thought. Well, nobody expected it to go eight, nine months, right? So you're not making any money for eight, nine months, and you can't reopen. There's a lot of businesses like that. There's a lot of bars. There's a lot of bailouts. There's a lot of, there's not enough bailouts. There's so many businesses. There's not enough and they're not going to give it to all. They're not going to give you all you lost. You're going to lose a tremendous amount no matter what. Well, there was a lot of people get that money. That was bullshit. Boy, it was so much goddamn fucking scandal with them. PBA loans and shit, man. Everybody was grabbing them bitches. Yeah, they'll find money. Then you got to pay it back. I hope. We figure out a way to make this economy bounce back. But I say we, when I say we, I mean people way smarter than me. I hope, I hope somebody figures it out. I hope my son had the best life he can have. Yeah, well, I hope so too. You know what I'm saying? Like I think that it's going to get, you're going to just start. People are going to be concerned about people that are close to them and their family and how that situation is going. Yeah. I mean everybody hopes that the next person that gets in office is going to nail it. Everybody hopes the next person that gets in office is going to fix all our problems. We got to change the way we communicate with each other. That's a big, that's a big one. Everybody's locked in this trap of us versus them of red versus blue of like, whatever the trap is like, whatever your particular trap is. There's men versus women traps. There's people get crazy with being tribal and being on a fucking team. We're supposed to be one team supposed to be United States of America. If we differ on small things like immigration or things like financial issues or how to use taxes and the most important thing is that we all want what's best for the country. We all want the country to do what you want to think people. You want that's the, that's how you want people to feel. That's what drove me the most crazy about Trump being president. I felt like it was the first time I can ever remember where people wanted things to be bad so that he would be a bad president. So that I mean, I guess they probably did with Obama too. They wanted things to go bad so they could blame it on him. Like they would rather have something to blame on him than to have everything go well. Like if you asked a hardcore Trump hater, would you rather, this would be a good question. Would you rather the economy become the greatest economy the world has ever known and you'd be totally wrong and Trump, even though he's a pussy grabber and he's full of shit and he brags about himself, became literally the best person to make the decisions that were the best for the country. Or would you rather the economy fall to the toilet and Trump goes to jail? Like Trump goes to jail. Yeah. Yeah, there's no bar. Yeah, I know. Well, immediately there would be no hesitation. Put him in jail. Fuck him. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. It sounds like a relationship. Whatever makes you happy. You like fuck that. I don't want it to be happy. Well, they definitely didn't want him to do well, which is weird, but they wanted him to get arrested and the economy to bounce back. That's what they wanted. But another thing they wanted to do, Joe, they wanted to feel like you cared about them. They wanted to feel like you cared about somebody else other than your fan base. That was a big part of it, man. People didn't I don't think people were just looking for reasons to hate on him. I know some people did like like them. Some people love it. Some people love to know. Yes, it's fucking people love a guy who came along and said fuck you to politically correct shit to there's a lot that people like to battle. People like the idea that he got fucked over in this election, too. They like the idea that the Deep State was involved in that people were rigging voting machines and miscounting votes and people love those stories. I do not know if those stories are true. I don't give a fuck about those stories. They're a bummer though. It's a bummer that there's those stories. This would be the ideal scenario. Whoever won one if it's Biden and comma, they win and then that's it. The transfer of power, shake of hands. People do what they've always done with Obama. Do it. They don't want to do that, son. They don't want to do that. That's so quarter. You're what is shaking motherfucker. And you won't give him the secrets. You don't give up the keys. He's got to do it. Give up the car. He's got to do it, especially if he wants to run again. See if Trump wants to do it again, he can run one more time in 2024. But the only way he's going to be able to do that. He's got to be able to sit down and shake Biden's hand and say I'll see him four years bitch. It's got to be you can't you can't just keep saying that the voting is a hundred percent rigged and I won this election by a lot. And all that's fucking dangerous because it's just dangerous for our confidence. It's dangerous. People talking about rise up. You're going to it's going to be something. Something's going to do. Don't say that. Here's the thing. You got to show the evidence first. You got to show the evidence first. There's just to be like you have to compile all that evidence. If there really is that evidence, you got to compile it all and present it in a very solid way. Shut down. Yeah. It's it's not I mean, it's above our pay grade. DC even understand national politics on that scale. But I think that as a country, I think you and I both know that this country's never this is like it's never been a position where you don't know what the hell is going to happen. You never know like with you never know there's there's so much turmoil and weirdness and you never know what is going to be another wave of this pandemic. Are they going to shut everything down again? Whatever happens then whatever happened then we go with what has become our new norm. We go back to that. You know saying like things about the shift by the spring or summer things going to be in a totally different place in regard to how people feel about being in public again. They're going to have this they're going to come up with some super rapid testing situation. I hope so. It's going to make the fucking essential workers people in medical field feel more comfortable. They're going to make other people feel comfortable and eventually like people going to make decision. Am I going to fuck it? I hope so. What am I going to do to live? I hope the vaccine and you know that the election gets resolved quickly. If Jamie Jamie if you had a guess if you know, I know but I mean let them let Trump say it's resolved. If you had a guess what percentage of election fraud do you think there was take a guess? It's not zero right? Probably not zero but it's like one two percent like the normal poll. I think it's really one percent. I know that's a lot but I mean there's 150 million votes. I don't think it's one. I don't think it's one but I think it's I think there's a some less than zero number or some more than zero number rather that is voter fraud. I think that any reasonable person. It's a point one of points. Yeah, it's not and who knows which way it goes because I bet there's voter fraud the other way too. We're not hearing about that because Biden won but if Biden was like Trump and he lost that race who knows he might they might try to figure out a way that the Republicans cheated. I don't know man. Yo, I'm gonna tell you this shit is turned into comedy son. What's turning into comedy? This whole just not quitting just kind of crazy. No, it's every day's tweet. No, it's not even crazy. It's entertaining. It's entertaining. I know it's unfortunate for me entertainment, but it's entertaining. I get that it's entertaining, but it makes me nervous. It makes me nervous when you start thinking that there's people out there that think that that there's been a coup right or that Trump is attempting a coup. There's like two different schools of thought one school thought of the deep state took over the election and they they they rigged it and the other school thought is this guy is trying to win even though he lost and he's trying to figure out a way to sue his way back. And the White House and this is crazy. So this is yeah, so there's a that's a problem. I said is not a solution one in because he's got the power of the people like again those that him losing the support. He has he knows that there's a community he can they're going to be fucking still on his dick right now because he can shake some shit up. Yeah, so fuck him. Fuck all of them. Am I ever going to get some help? Do you have any help today? I have it at my house. Yeah, you can't cook it though, right? I can cook it. We'll have to figure out how much time we have between now and the show. Yo, you can bring some help to the show. Not enough for everybody. No, just a sample. Yeah. Why don't you just come over my house? I'll cook for you. What time do we have? I don't know. We'll figure it out when we get out of here. Let's figure it out off the air, though. But my two lesbian friends are supposed to meet me. They're not like no like no menage a child. Let's actually like regular lesbian. They're my friends. Okay, that's cool. They're there. Who do they think one Biden? What? Hell man. What? I said my two lesbian friends. We're there. Lesbians for Trump adopted. Mexican son, Eli, who I fucking love. You don't think there's lesbians for Trump. I bet there's a whole website. I don't you know what? I never thought about that. I don't think it's too many lesbians for Trump. I bet there's a few. I probably get together and like, yeah, you know, like people. I don't know. I don't think that that's never that's I said never thought about. You know, like people. Lesbians for Trump. Some people are really into anime. There's a t-shirt for it. There it goes. Lesbian for Trump. Oh no. It's funny, but you would assume that if someone's a lesbian, that's what I was kind of getting at that you would instantly know who they're voting for. Right. I mean, I know that's kind of profile, but I was definitely like short haircut. You know, short haircut. Fucking man cut out suit with the tie. Right. Like how many girls with blue hair or pink hair voted for Trump? Is it less than zero? That's a good stat. Yeah. Trump pride gay Republicans on why they're backing the president. Because I get to dress up again. Have a good time. It's cool outfit. It's a such a weird time man. It's such a weird time. But I'm ready to just get on the river, bro. I get it. I'm ready to do some nature. Do you think you're gonna move there? Would you move there? I think so. It's a good place to be. I think the community. I mean, it's just like the sense of community man this summer and it was just so simple. Would you would you get rid of your place in LA and just settle down there? Yeah, I could do that. I could do I could do it. Better for travel. Really. If you wanted to go left or right, you're more closer to the middle for everything. Right. I just want to be around some trees. I think that's one good thing about people that can escape from LA. There's a lot of people that are escaping from New York as well and they're moving to the suburbs and they're liking it better. They're more relaxed or get some space. People are like instead of being in the chaos. Yeah, I can drive to the chaos. Yeah, you know, it's like fucking people from we're not even drive now. A lot of people are working from home. But you don't think it's going to change. I think there's going to be a lot of companies that realize like hey, I don't need this gigantic space to handle all these people. I can let people work from home. They're more productive because a lot of times people in offices, they get together. They talk. They have fun. You know, there's a lot of work to grant. Oh man, I used to fuck up the break room. I never was doing work. Always in the break room. I seen dudes in cubicles doing this shit. Whether the cubicles here and they're both on the outside. They're just having a conversation. They're nowhere near their computer. People do that all the time. If no one's watching, people do that all the time in some jobs. Yeah, they don't get it. Don't get personal. It's you. Scoot back from the cubicle. That's hilarious. There's a lot of dudes that are working all over the place that would be more productive. If they just had a certain amount of work to do and they can just get it done at home. You know, but sometimes they want to patrol. I think it's a good idea. There's a lot of people that have jobs. You have to be there, right? Auto mechanic. A lot of people fill in the blank carpenter. A lot of people have jobs got to be there. But there's certain jobs like why why do you need? Yeah, why do you need to sit through an hour and 15 minutes of traffic when you can just do it through Zoom and you sit here in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and get all your fucking work done? Like what? Why do you need to go somewhere? You don't with computers today. You don't have to go anywhere. They just want to control the movements of it. They just want to. It makes sense and I think it's going to go to that. Everybody's like I'm working from home. I work at home and they're getting getting the job done. Yeah, everything is different. A lot of people are going to be able to stay home. And so I think that's just going to change the nature of cities in general. Less people going to have to commute to them. But that's one probably good thing about this is that people are going to not have to commute as much. So maybe the roads won't be as jammed up. If that that saves people so much fucking stress. If you're a dude who works in Orange County and you live in LA and you got to make that drive every morning. You ever see that fucking drive? That's right. I've seen I've come from a job. I've been going the other way of that. When you go Orange County to LA at 7 a.m., you want to just fucking end it. You just you just like I can't do this every day. But you can do it for a minute because that's the route that I've because I my count is out in Orange County and I did that trip a couple of times and I kind of enjoy being up in the morning with it because I didn't do it every day. If you had a job and you had to be at your job at 830 in the morning every day and you live in Orange County, you got to go to LA. You got to leave your house before 7. Yeah, you're going to accept the fact that every morning there's a likelihood, a high likelihood is going to take you an hour and a half. Or you can go on Zoom. Or you can go on Zoom. I want on Zoom. Yeah. And you can wake up instead of waking up at 6. You wake up at 8. You wake up at 8, have a cup of coffee, sit down, turn on your fucking computer. I get a barely made of toast. I got I got Maggie. I understand. Yeah, I got to get that early. I'm not like the old Donnell is gone. Joe. I get it. Like she's down there curled up. I'm just happy that there's alternatives for some people where they at least can work. If they can't be in an office, at least they can do some stuff on Zoom. But for other people, man, that's what I'm worried about. What I'm worried about is everything restarting. Like how does man Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe. I know you worried about it and you have concerns and everybody worried about having concerns. But eventually like this. Yo, what the fuck are you going to do? You got to figure it out. People going to have to figure it out. Yeah, man. It's like I understand you keep saying yeah, man. Then I feel sorry for them. Sorry, eventually, you're going to have to figure it the fuck out. Eventually, nobody is going to be able to help you. Nobody is going to be able to vouch for you. And you got to do it yourself. David, David Goggins said it man. It goes back to that same point man. They looking for answers. You are the answer. You got two excuses, a good one and a bad one. At the end of the day, it's the same fucking excuse. I've said it before and I know people like well, it's easy for you to say it's not easy for anybody to say. Whatever is going to happen moving forward. It's not easy for anybody to say. Everybody's going to have their opinion of it. Everybody's going to be on the opinion of well, give him a chance. Maybe he could bring the world back together. It's going to be a lot of Trump motherfuckers like, yo, fuck you asshole. There's been no supporter that's been angry than a Trump supporter to the extent that there's sore winners and sore losers. You got to pick a sore. You can't just take both sores. You see the thing is they think they got robbed. That's why his tweets are dangerous. Even if you do Joe, even if you do have you feel this the part that's fucked up. Is this my this the part is fucked up sitting here for a while. Probably not hot anymore. What was I saying, sir? This is the part that's fucked up about being sore winners and sore losers. You got to pick a sore. You got to pick a sore and everything is not going to always go your way, but you don't have to be upset about it. The thing is though, what he's saying to them is it was a robbery. So he thinks it's a robbery, man. It's definitely starting shit. That's you got it. That's it right there. Yeah. Why all your shit got to be extra strong, man? I like sturdy things. Coffee coffee pot. Just keeps the coffee warm after you're done. So everything is like a workout. What's that? Does he want to come in? Who out there? Dave's out there. Tell that nigga to come in, son. Yeah, tell me to come on in. Come on. Do we have a camera for him? Maybe that's when he's waiting on it. Well, he gets tested every day, doesn't he? Maggie just jumped up. Have you ever seen a baby dog, little tiny little dog? I've never seen a tiny little dog. I had one. I used to have one. It wasn't quite that small, but it was pretty small. I've seen little dogs. I just never seen one in the baby form. David! What's happening, bro? What's up? How are you? What's happening? Hey, see ya. Oh, no! You want to sit right here, son? Oh, no! She didn't hear! What's up? What's up? Don't step on the phone. What's she smoking on? Oh, shit. Michelle, bull. Come on in here. The whole circus isn't... I don't know how many microphones we have, unfortunately. Yeah, but don't you guys smell really good. I was smoking this to his really... Marijuana is semi-legal here. I'm a semi-criminal. Let me get some. My guy. Is there a... Is there any coffee? Yeah. Yeah, this is coffee. The Japanese are smart. What's up, man? What are you doing? Oh, bro. Living the dream. Good to see ya. How's Austin been treating you? Great. We did two nights at Stub's. Stub's Barbecue, the guy from the barbecue sauce. So he has a stage? It's an outdoor... You've never been there? No. It's an outdoor event. You, Joe, you will love this place. I thought you said you was there. No, they said you was somewhere else. I went to the Vulcan Gas Company. That's the only place I've been in town. Michelle is doing that. Oh, it's great. That's the gig she's got coming on. Yeah, because Cap City's gone, so people are doing shows anywhere they can. Are you gonna buy a club here? Yes. Are you got to? Yes. I'll be the first gig. All right. You heard it here, folks. I felt like I have to. It's like as soon as Cap City went under, I was like, oh, shit. Oh, now I have to. But I don't know what's gonna happen after Biden gets into office, whether there's gonna be another lockdown, like a national lockdown for a while. So I'll wait until after that blows over. Yeah. Just keep moving forward. That's all. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like everything that I've seen you do moving here to Austin and it's gangsters, correct. Thanks, man. We find a way. Yeah, we find a way. We were just talking about that. People find a way. I was saying like what are people gonna do, you know, with restarting the economy and you know, trying to get a job when all these businesses went under like how does everything go? And Don, I was just saying we do what we have to do. We figure it out. That's true. I'm far from an economist, but I will say that the planning for your future is a good thing. It's a necessary thing. Even though it's uncertain, you have to remember the Sun does rise every morning. Yeah, so just keep moving. And people that are in this shit right now never thought that it was going to happen now that they know that this is a possibility. Now we have to plan for the future for the future. Yeah, I've never seen this before. Never, you know, you've never seen something as large as the American economy stop and then start back up, but it's a global phenomenon. It's like it's not like it's just happening to us. We're just handling it terribly. I like how you handle it though. I like doing those shows that you did in yellow Springs. It's a great idea. It was wonderful. We're in that Chapel that whole area outside. Yeah, it's a pavilion. All outdoors. I talked to my doctor, my family practitioner and he told me you should play outdoors. If you're playing doors, use UV air filters, you know, like the specs of a building that might be safer. Many buildings now today are not outfitted this way and you know, you hope for the best. He take every necessary precaution, reasonable precaution and but it's a pandemic. There's no guarantees. Are you getting any people giving you shit about doing shows? No, no, no, I mean even if I did, you know, I mean who cares? And that's it. There's nothing you can do about it. No matter what, you know, read about Jesus seemed to be a really good guy. They killed him. That's just the nature of people. Daniel, this dog is hilarious. Man, this dog is an angel. This dog makes everybody feel good. She's so cute. I've never seen a little dog as a baby. I've only seen them as full-grown little dogs. This is gonna be her size right here. That's how she's gonna stay? Yeah, she goes to like this with a little bit more bark and more Now how is it traveling with it? Is it easy or the company? I mean, it's dope like I'm like when I got her I was like this. Oh, she's an emotional dog, right? But now that I got I'm like this. Yeah, I'm an emotional human and like like yo, let me tell you something. Sometimes I'll be up at 5 30 and she'll be up her ears and be up looking like what we doing nigga? And I'm like at least somebody understands me right? It increases the amount of love you have. Yeah, right. Cause you have this dog and she follows me everywhere. Yeah, well, I was at the show the other night. I was on stage and they said she was shaking barking when she heard my voice. Yeah, it's crazy. She was. She was like, where you at motherfucker? She loves you. Yeah, it's a different world man. You got a little dog that counts on you like that. Those are different kinds of dogs too. They're so little they have to be held. You have to carry them most of the time. Is she scared or cold? Like why is she shaking? She might be a little combination of both. Maybe she needs a drink. She has to piss. She's five months old. How is she keeping it together? Don't talk about it like that. She could. She probably just need a little warmth. Do you have dogs? Yeah, I have one dog. He probably have a huge wolf kind of dog. No, I have a golden retriever. I have the sweetest dog in the world. He's the nicest dog ever. That dog looks perfect. He's so nice. That dog looks like he has a great life. He's just a love sponge. Like that dog is just all about love. So all he wants to do is like kiss you and let you pet him. Who spends the most time with your dog? Me probably. Yeah, I can see. I spent a lot of time with him. We have a morning ritual. What's the ritual? I just get up in the morning as soon as I see him. Good morning, sir. Good morning, sir. He starts freaking out. He go for a wax. His tail. For a walk. Yeah, he does that but he loves chasing balls more than anything. He's a great guy. He likes swimming. I didn't. I didn't. Thank you. There you go. Now he's a sweet dog. You got a dog? Three of them. What kind? Australian Shepherd. And one kind of like this. What do they call it? A Chiwini. I think they call it. It's half Chihuahua. Half one of those hot dogs. That's the one, Baba. The one in my special Baba. That's him. A Chiwini. He have this and half hot dog. And then my daughter has a little dog like this. Not a Chihuahua. I can't remember what kind of dog she is. My daughter has a Chihuahua mix. It's like a Chihuahua with like, I think he's got some whippet or something in him. So it's a Chihuahua with long legs. He's adorable. You know, I was one of my kids to train animals when they were little. Really? That's one of these things I should have followed through on. But the reason I did it is because I wanted to learn how to be patient with other, with people. And I figured if they trained a dog or something. It takes patience. Look at this dog is adorable, but she don't know nothing yet. Yeah, she don't know. She knows snacks. The real problem is when you get dogs that need a lot of training. Like if you want to have a German Shepherd or a working dog with a Belgian Malinois. A lot of people get those dogs. You don't realize like you basically got like a little genius with teeth that lives with you. That wants to figure out problems. You know those like, have you heard of those celebrity like the German Shepherd's the guard dogs. The real ones. With that no 200 commands. Yeah, Schutzen training. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen guys do that. Some comedian got one of those dogs. Spent like 200 grand on it and it died in like a week. Those are crazy. If you can have a dog like that, that's a commitment man. Like those dogs need work. That's what I'm saying. You got bars German and shit. Those dogs are so smart. They're from a long history of working dogs. Those are task oriented dogs. This dog's from a long history of. Isn't she adorable? Come on man. She is. She doesn't want to be held back. Have you ever taken your dog hunting? No, you can't do that. Right? Not my dog. It's too dangerous for it. Well, you wouldn't want him to be in the woods. First of all, because you probably scare off the animals. But second of all, he has like the instincts to chase squirrels and shit. He chased the squirrels, but he's like a he's a lover. He's not is there's no aggression in him like with other dogs. Like he's always the beta. He's always he's he tries to be the Alpha, but they bark at him. He's like sorry. Sorry. The Australian shepherds like that. She's well, she's like she's like the dog you described that needs work. You can tell she's a herder. She corrals kids. She corrals me and the interesting. Yeah, they have it in their DNA. They were seen that. They really do. It's a in the dog is really smart. I never trained this dog, but you would think I had just talked to it. And you can see her face trying to figure out what I'm talking about. It's really cool. What did I do? I think he's doing something with the dog. To beat his dog. They do figure out words. Like it's not just commands like my dog knows you hungry man. You want to eat like he knows he knows when I say you hungry. What do you want to do? Do you want to throw the ball? He's like what's up the fucking ball go by where the ball is. You got to go outside and he'll just start walking towards the door. He knows a few phrases because I definitely trained him like sit and all that shit, but sometimes are just smarter than other dogs. He's a really smart dog. Yeah, man. Does he like Austin? Do you like I love it? I love it here. What do you do? Have you like Oh done L down with the count? Hey, that's actually you did a great job. You actually put it back. Perfect. That's perfect. I was dead in frame. Don't worry about it man. That's the best recovery I've ever seen from one of these stupid things. These aren't ideal. These cameras mounted on the wall. I like the setup a lot man. Feels homey. You actually just trick me into doing the podcast. Sorry. No, I'm going to come and do it like for real for real. For real for real. Okay. Yeah, as a matter of fact, I should come after the inauguration. Okay, let's do it. I'll come after the inauguration. That sounds great. Nobody believe I got shot son. Yo Dave, I don't know what's going on man, but everywhere I go. Don't eat on the air. Why I can't eat over here? You're gonna crunch on the air. Where? You're crunching in the microphone. You're eating. Come on man. That's disgusting. He was gonna bring up your son. He said that he was gonna bring enough help for me and you. I would totally do that. Is it good? Yes. Have you had it before? A gentleman bought it. Yeah, it's good. So what do you do? You make jerky, you barbecue it. I just put it on a grill. I usually put it on a, you know what a Traeger grill is? It's a pellet grill. So it just has like little wood pellets. They make with sawdust. I've seen the sawdust and these pellets support into the machine. So it's basically just fire and wood. So it's like keep it at a low temperature control it like 265 till it hits 120 degrees internal temperature. Then I pull it and then I sear the outside one or two ways. Either I do it in a cast iron frying pan with beef tallow, which is rendered beef fat. Oh, wow. Or I do it. I have a grill. I could do it outside on another kind of grill. Usually I like to do it in the cast iron frying pan. You heard it here first. Joe Rogan doesn't just like killing animals. He likes cooking them too. Yo, he always has a perfect. He got this perfect little chopping block. He put him on. I like it. He always throw the jalapenos on his side, right? And it's just you see this perfectly seared meat and did a knife. It's like a Japanese some extra shit. Then you see a little blood and did a little jalapeno. So he's showing off. So do you cook it all Dave? You're not not anything like you guys. Donnell can't cook. I hear I couldn't believe it. He challenged me. I thought he was joking. He said I'm gonna cook for all these people. I literally thought he was joking. I said he can't cook. He's like what? He's like he was offended. So he makes me take him to a grocery store. This is in Ohio. And I was laughing the whole time until he started shopping. He goes to the lady. Do you have clam juice? I said, I was a clam juice. So I asked for all these fucking ingredients killed it cooked for like 20 of my friends in Ohio and then went to the show. It was amazing. And then I made him apologize to me. He was like you did a good job. I was like no motherfucker. You got to do it on stage. You said you was gonna promise on stage. I'm saying it on the podcast. You were it was amazing. No, I made him say it. I was like he was like yeah, Donna. I was like nah nigga. What the fuck did you say? How did you learn to cook? Just watching my mother cook just watching cooking shows, but I do remember when I was younger. My mother was a part of publishers Claire house and I think they had like one promotion where you get a Betty Crocker's recipe book and they had all these recipe cards and it just sent it to you and it's like like meats and then you see all these recipes and I used to look at the recipe. I was like man, we got shit to make none of this with. We had the recipe. We didn't have the ingredients. So I just started reading those recipe cards when I got older. I was like I should start just fucking with this shit. I couldn't cook and then I just started fucking around and just started having fun. Do you go off recipes now or do you have it in your head? I go off of it 100%. Yeah, you know I'm saying it's like you know with cooking. It's like a technique the art of cooking like art of cooking you know how to cook you could cook whatever it did all depends on what spices or whatever but if you're not a cook you know how to cook what's a specialty. I don't really have a specialty really. I don't have a specialty. I'll follow a recipe somebody to do something I'll get inspired by something but I do know I make these garlic noodles, right? It's not a specialty but it's a whopper. It's like a wet-ass pussy. Just it's a wet-ass pussy dish. So it's no way around it. They love the garlic noodles and I make a dope-ass garlic. You can put whatever protein you want on it but the garlic noodles are fucking crazy. In fact you made those at night. I did. Yeah, you did. That was I was impressed. I had yeah, I put I love this thing. You said the metaphor we had the recipes just not the ingredients. That's a good metaphor for like a lot of things in life. We had the recipes but none of the ingredients. We didn't have it. It's a bar. Should write that down. Yeah. Well, I remember it but this is the truth. Someone will tell you it's true. Just watch the podcast tomorrow. Yeah, everyone wants equal access to the ingredient. That's right. I had a recipe. Real equality, right? But none of the ingredients. The difference. It's a bar of a metaphor. That really is the difference. That's a great way to that's a great metaphor. It is. Yeah for life. That's what I was telling y'all niggas man. It's right there. Yo, he been not listening to my story the whole show. I listened. He doesn't believe you. Anytime I mentioned I got shot. I believed him the first time. I believe in the second time. I believed him every time. You know Pierre Edwards. Yes, great comedian. I saw a video today. It was on some guy's Instagram. He's a comedian. It was me introducing him at a comedy club when I was like 17. Wow. I'm just saying it to me. I have to believe. Yeah from DC. Which one? Yeah, Pierre from DC. Yeah. He used to do the funniest joke about getting shot. I'm not gonna do another guy's joke. But you know, he got shot in DC like one night. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny too. I got shot. Nobody fucking believe me man. We believe you. Yo, are you gonna bring some elk? I told y'all cook some. I'm ready. I'm ready man. I want to see what they say in the streets. What's all this fuss is about? I want some elk son. Yo, everywhere I go motherfucker say did you try the elk? That's all I know. Is it gamey? No, it's not gamey. It's not like there's a weird taste that people associate with like venison a gamey taste and for the most part, it's either hasn't been prepared correctly or it wasn't taken care of correctly after the animal died. Like that's for the most part with the game. It's a different flavor, but I think what people associate with with not tasting good like hmm, I think a lot of that a lot of it not all of it, but a lot of it isn't just personal taste. It's bad preparation. You get a steak from a grocery store. You're assuming that professional butchers like people to grow the cows professional butchers all down the line. They get the estate. If you got a guy's deer meat, who knows how this guy took care of that fucking deer, you know, he could have had that shit hanging in the tree. There's nowhere no marble is eight no marbleization in there. No way. Sometimes people, you know, sometimes people shoot them and you know, this is what I'm talking about. I'm talking about day. No, wait a minute. That's a show. You are exactly now Dave. This is go to picture not going to shame me. You're not going to say this is yo, this is a good elk day right here. It is a good out there. Wait, let's what does the captain say watching Mitch's something about a jalapeno somewhere? This is the final product. Oh shit. Pretty right? What's that a dry rub? What rub is that? That's a Saskatchewan blackened Saskatchewan. It's a Traeger rub. It's like a like a Cajun style almost but it's got it's like a blackened but not like it's a lot of salt to it. It's delicious. It's the perfect rub. I love that rub for elk. So wait, when you cook it you like you cut it up yourself. You know how to cut steaks. Yes, that's the whole purpose. That part is easy because that part is what's called the back strap. That's the big thick piece of meat that's on each side of the spine. Look at the knife though. Is that a Japanese? No, that's an American knife. Who made that knife? What is it? Does it say in the caption doesn't there's no tag or nothing the dude who made it was shit. If you wouldn't see the violence you wouldn't eat that in there somewhere same knife real close to it. If you're killing elk, how long are you eating that elk? You can eat it for a whole year. Literally a year. Yeah, they're huge. I got it. There it is. The guy gave me the knife. There's a Neanderthal chumny knife. C-H-U-M-N-E-Y. Right son. That knife looks right. It's a dope knife. Yeah, you'd eat it for all year. It's hundreds of pounds of meat. It's like 400 pounds of meat. They're huge. So okay, say you're shooting elk. You're bow hunting I imagine. Yeah. What happened? It runs off. You got to follow it for like a day or two or like a half a day ago. If you hit them right, they die pretty quick. Okay. He do it with a bow though son. Yeah, but you have to practice a lot. This thing could do with a bow. It's not easy. But the point is I know exactly where that meat's coming from. Like that. I know the whole chain of command. I know everything that's happened from the time that animal got hit until the time I'm cooking it. That's interesting. You know because yes, this is my boat. I get all my meats from strangers. Yeah, most people do. Yeah, you don't think about it. I was in Alaska once and a lady told me that she hadn't eaten something. She didn't kill herself. In years. This woman looked like a Betty Crocker model like a house mark. She was working in an ammunition store. You know, I had never been to a gun store before. It was ridiculous. This is in Fairbanks Alaska. It was so many like think of a kind of gun. The guy goes this is a sniper rifle. It can you can shoot a bear with this from two miles away. Couldn't imagine why I would shoot a bear that was two miles. I couldn't as the weirdest sales pitch. He literally said that to me. Yeah, that's like a thousand yards, right? Isn't that isn't two miles two miles way more than how many thousand miles is a mile or how thousand or five thousand feet is a mile right? It's not yards. Okay. Yeah, it's crazy. So they can shoot things. They can shoot things at a thousand yards. Like snipers have hit shots a thousand yards. It was a crazy thing. That's so far to somebody. You know, I'm not gonna get all that gun stuff, but a mile is five thousand feet and then a thousand yards a bullet. That's crazy. That's so far. That's really far. That's a long that's a long squint. Yeah, they get 10,000 feet for them. Nothing. That's not the scope though. That has to be a scope. Well, again, this was Alaska. So you got to think things like guns there are more utilitarian than likes, you know, New York or something. People do need, you know, one of two of the out there. I think yeah, everybody has guns up there. Well, they're also bears and fucking moose and shit. Yeah, it's crazy up there. It looks it looks unfinished. It's beautiful. It's a wild place. It's one of the last real that the people that live up there are different kind of human. They're more they have they just they're more durable than that soybean eaters. They have all these little Alaska is they call they call they call leaving Alaska going outside. Really? Yeah, they say it's like a call. They say the lower 48. We all heard that before. Yeah, they'll call the rest of the continent to US lower 48. Tons of them, but it was it was fun up there man. Nice people. I've only done shows up there once I did shows in Anchorage with Ari. We had a good fucking time. They were good people but they're sturdy. They're like you could tell they can they survive winter. Yeah deal with shit that people don't have to deal with the male to female ratio male to female ratio guys out number women in Alaska. I think 10 to 1 10 to 1. It's not many women. Awesome motherfuckers are sexy as shit out there bitch 10 to 1. Well, yes, we would think you think oh if you a woman, I was great 10 guys. You got 10 dusty dirt on the fingernail choices. These guys are rugged. Right these guys are rugged. That is you know, I mean, yeah, like stick of the jobs. You have I was the only dude in the nail shop and Fairbanks are last everybody else nails the hands look like shit. You was killing it. I've been mining all day. I met a guy as a gold miner. Weird jobs like that. That's how I was when I was in the Air Force when I was stationed in Koonsan Korea. It was like 10 guys to every girl and whoever she was she was America's next top model. She had the attitude like she was like every one of them chicks was like motherfucker. You got to compete. That's why niggas was going downtown. It's definitely an unhealthy now. Donnell, you know, Donnell speaks Korean like Tom is a jointly but just cash casual, but no, I didn't know that we were in New York when we shoot a pelt show. We walk into a deli. Yeah. And you know two Korean guys and talking to each other. Donnell turns up, you know, how he talks. He's just going back but you know starts doing the thing and I thought he was fucking with him. I'm like, oh, come on man. Do that. Like I'm so sorry, sir. And the guy got a guy look shocked. And then the guy start talking back and they talked to each other for a couple seconds. I'm like, I was floored staring at him. I couldn't believe it. He goes, oh, they thought he said they thought we were stealing son and I told him that we wasn't stealing. They call it a dog eating motherfucker in his own language. Yeah. And he was he loves he said it. You promised me you call him a dog eat motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, I would. How are son? He was saying something about you while you were standing there and he didn't know that you could speak Korean. Yeah, but we were engaged in conversation. Me and the guy was engaged in conversation. Dave thought I was mocking him. You know Dave that I was mocking but I was really having a conversation with him. So Dave didn't know he thought I was like fuck with him. Like yo, you can't talk like that. And then I was rocking with him was like, oh shit. Those guys were floored. I was floored. They're like when they see a black guy going to one of those stores to speak any level of Korean they fucking lose it. Like how often does that happen? Well clearly this means one could surmise that when you're in the Air Force you spent a lot of time off base. I did. You were just being in town and just hanging out. I would just go when we had days off. I would go to like these little small cities or whatever they live just they never experienced Americans let alone the black guy and I would catch boats and shit over there just hang out with them. And that's how I got they got it custom to me and I got a custom to them. Can you read it? No, I couldn't read it but I could back in the day. I could spell my name but it was just like I was with trustworthy people. You know, we all work together and it was like fuck can I do man? Let's go see what your cultural is about. You know, that's cool that you learned that that's a rare thing. That's a probably a difficult language to pick up to the sounds are so different. Well to me, I think it's a testament that you're a people person which goes back to the original point. We all made you find a way if you want to hang out talk to people and nobody speaks your language. I don't speak that language. Yeah, you find a way. Yeah, you will. So you learn from books. Did you take classes? It was just share with the main gate. We work the main gate. You would have 12 hours 16 hour days. So you is a one American on one side and there's two Koreans on the other side. You could just stare at each other all day or you could just start doing word association. You know, I mean this point that stuff. Oh, wow. Come some doctor. Come some doctor. I'm gonna live in New Orleans. I mean, the question bar was it. What did you do? So, you know, I'm a man gate Airman Rollins man. Help you. That was the greeting. I would say when it comes on. That's what they would say. Come some doctor. I'm doing but I would switch it to me. Come some doctor. I'm in the role and see me go to Shambha. They used to like oh and they were. I'm telling you. So they used to get him when I get a drink, right? They'd be like oh Lola's white white white. They was like dollars. Don't answer phone because I sound like them and then they would say something else. I didn't know I was like, yeah, yeah. Come some doctor. I'm in England in my touch them up. They'd be like oh because your accent was perfect. Yeah, I would do the same like why Starling Spanish. I went to Ecuador once for like six weeks and started picking up Spanish at a driver that I just met the guy hired him. So you drive a car. He spoke a little bit of English and I spoke less Spanish, but we did the same thing by the end of it by the end of six weeks. My man, I could speak Spanish. Yeah, but I was a mimic. I would mimic the action of whoever taught me the word. If I learned the word from an Argentinian that say like an Argentinian says it if I that's why when I when I do Korean whatever I do it even when I do it in my act when it's broken Korean people know that's the oddest she he got the tone of an older person and respect the person is odd is she. Yeah, like they know like a real Korean could tell who I was around to give me my accent or however, I did it. So I have a friend named Japanese Naki. I know Japanese Naki. Yeah, she she is from Tokyo and and for some reason when she was in high school moved to Alabama. She learned English from Alabama people whoa and which created one of the more hilarious accents. I've ever heard. Oh my God. Hell, yes, you got a I just like where she got a country. She got a country accent. Wow. She is she's the best she likes lemon pepper chicken wings. It's that kind of stuff. Yeah, in other languages. There's all these weird tones that change the meaning of words in Korean in particular right in Korea in particular because you can tell the way people use their voice and talk to people older people always talk down to people don't matter what you did. It don't matter what it is for you to celebrate is it's always like it wasn't enough. Do you know that those problems in communications why Korean air only teaches pilots in English. They only learn and communicate in English. They're not allowed to know that. How do you know that well because they started they recognize there was an issue with the superior and dealing with a superior like if you were my captain and I was yours. I couldn't say certain things to you the fucking planes going to crash. I can't simply say you you're doing it the wrong way. This is what you can't say it but in English you can't so they taught them to communicate in English because it's it changes the way or they only use English because it changes the way you communicate with people you don't have like the that's cultural classification of superior of you know an older person who demands respect. I get it and that's the one thing people don't understand about especially Korean culture is a level of respect that they have yeah, that's that people think it's like oh, you don't fuck me because I'm black know the level of respect they have they give a fuck about being older like that money. That's prestige. That's everything you being older in Korean culture was money. You know, I was around Korea. I like this. I like this cultural nuance. I feel like it's a fascinating culture. Yeah, they don't have hard workers but they don't have is like like Korean dads don't really have connection with their kids like that. They don't have like the ultimate emotional. Oh, you did a good job shit. Don't they're very hard on their kids. That's it in general. I had a good friend of mine who was a doctor. He was going through his residency while he was on the national Taekwondo team and the dude would literally be in school and he would take breaks to put his backpack on his fill the backpack up with with books and run up staircases and go all the way back down and then go back to go into the library to finish his work. Oh, well, and then he would find a way to go to the gym every night and he won the national championship and there's this Korean kid. I've never met a person who worked harder in my life to this day. I think about that dude. He was always tired. I go. How you doing? Man goes. I'm always tired. I'm always talking to them. Motherfucker every day would be in that gym every day. Jung Sik Chang. That was his name. Is he still alive? I don't know. I haven't talked to him in a long time. He was Jung Sik Chang. He's a guy that was like he was probably like the star student of our team during my when I was competing because he was this guy that was not just a national champion, but also a guy who did it while he was in his fucking medical residency. Like the amount of work that he was capable of doing was insane and he was like the way Koreans are in the way he would describe it to me. He's like nothing's ever enough. No matter what I do. It's never perfect. Like I did no one. No one's here to praise me. I got to keep working hard. Sounds like a fun guy. Jesus Christ. The younger and the military. Yeah, it's like when you were like when somebody was out range or whatever they used to do this thing called education where they could just talk to a little Korean motherfucker any kind of way they want. Yeah. And they used to have this little greeting they used to do and then you just see the other the young Korean just like like they could do whatever they wanted to this mother. He could not do nothing but just show them. Yeah, you have to take it. They used to like it wasn't no rules. Like if you do this, they would fucking beat the motherfuckers up or whatever they came back. But there's one thing I like that you described what the reverence for older people. Yeah, I feel like here in America. We just discard people. Yeah, really quick. Yeah. It's not wise. We should get more than half price at the movies. That's a certain point. Yeah, come on. That's the least they could do. Well, we've forgotten that it's important to have people that are older than you that figured life out a little bit better than you have to help lead the way we got guys. We're running for president the way they kept going in on Joe Biden for being old. You know, whatever. It's whatever. So come on. Well, like Trump's old too. That's what I mean. I like when Trump calls the elderly the elderly as if that somehow doesn't apply to him. Yo, that's how I am. Yo, damn. I did a show once right and I was so caught up in myself. I was like, look at all these old head motherfuckers that I went to high school with. Right. I was like old ass motherfuckers that I'm their same age. I forgot that's real. That's real. Every once in a while, but they are older than me and they're the same age. Yeah, they're the same age. I'm talking shit. Yeah, all my all my friends around my age, you don't feel it. Yeah, they're more like they get like, you know, I mean, they dress the part. That's why it's very important for older people to actually have their shit together. Because when older people actually have their shit together, maybe people will resume the idea of respecting older people. Like maybe maybe it'll become more of a trend in the future. But when older people are that old and they're still crazy when that's problem with a guy like Trump that old and still I won this and big like all the craziness like the girl used to bang called her horse face on Twitter like that kind of crazy. Yeah, that kind of craziness is like but you come to expect enough of him don't it became very entertaining man. He made it all entertaining, but then it was a short people's lives, but it's like clothes like you know how you'll see old person dressed up and you know that maybe like 30 years ago that outfit was the shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, but but maybe he's not killing it today and it's like you can see him put it on one time and just be like this is it going without me fashion keep going. Isn't it funny how fashion eventually comes back around and then you got dudes dressing up like their old-timey photographers. When I grew up this summer for me, I just grew up with it. I don't even give a fuck. You know the saying I'm like I remember this summer son. I was starting to buy shit that had waterproof on it. You know, I mean reversible. I was I was like fuck that fucker City boy shit. I was buying shit that was fitting for the condition in the weather that I was in right clothes become utilitarian. Yeah, I was like for you get out of a city you guy wears a work clothes for you know to work. It's right. Everything's practical. Alaskans understand that shit boy do they they get it and be hard place to go like if I had to go buy some clothes for a date in Alaska. That's what boy. That's a tough one. Yeah. Yeah, you have nothing. I hope you like waiters bitch. Got a few days a year where it's cold where it's not cold outside and those days. It's like 24 hours, but those people are conditioned for it now. That's where it's weird when it's 24 hours out of it that they had all these signs up because this was like in November. All these it was like Game of Thrones winter is coming and there were these signs that get your happy lights. Have you heard of this? No, feel like UV lights that people put in their house to to mimic sunshine just so that they don't get depressed. I couldn't I like they're homegrown man. It's like all that's crazy. Do you remember that there's a vampire movie a few years back called 30 days of night? I don't know. It's all about vampires that show up in Alaska because there's 30 days where it never gets light out. Oh, that's a good premise. So these vampires just fuck this town up for 30 days because they know when so they they bring this vampire familiar that pulls the boat into the Anchorage shore or whatever the fuck they landed and they get out in this small town and just wreck havoc on this town for 30 days. Robin Williams and Al Pacino did a movie the opposite of that. It's called insomnia. You ever seen that? I didn't see that. I don't think it was a weird character thing. Pacino's character is a cop. This is real and and and and Rob Robin Williams is a guy. He's looking for for a heinous crime, right? The backdrop of the movie was that it was daylight for 24 hours a day and the guy had terrible insomnia. That's a rough way to live when it's never gets dark out. I remember doing it when I was in Anchorage. I was with did shows up there with our fear and we went fishing and it was like 2 o'clock in the morning. It was bright outside. I was like, this is weird man. I would love that. It's weird. But I would love it to fishing at 2 o'clock. Oh, yeah, you can just keep going. There's parts where it gets dark like bear to fly fish. No, we were trolling for salmon. How do you throw for salmon? You pull a boat and you got like a boat and you cast some lures in and you really trying to get the salmon aggravated. That's what they wanted. They're not really hungry at that point. They're trying to fuck so when they get your lure, they're really pissed off at it more than anything. Jesus Christ people have thought of everything. Who the fuck would think to aggravate a fish? Aggravate salmon. Somebody that needed that. Yeah, there's certain salmon that only eat plankton. They don't eat, they eat microscopic shit. Like they don't really eat fish. This is in a river you're doing. Yeah, you pull lures by I think that's, is that Chinooker sockeye? I'm trying to figure out which one doesn't really eat fish and the only time you catch him is when you piss him off. I don't know nothing about my salmon's. Like sockeye, I don't know my salmon's at different personalities or anything. Well, some fish just eat fish, right? And some fish just eat microscopic shit. There's one particular type of salmon that only eats microscopic shit and the way you catch it is by getting it pissed and that's in Alaska. They do that out of like Bristol Bay. I think that's Chinook. Is that correct? And same and migrate, right? Yeah, they migrate. Yeah. So they go to the same spot every year. Or they freshwater houses? Both. They're both. Yeah. Yeah, they move through. I forget what it's called, but they go out to salt water and they come back to spawn in freshwater and they have to do it in the same River. So if you dam the river up, they're fucked and they die. They don't know where to go and they never wind up reproducing. Which one is the most money? Like which one is the most? Salmon's huge. Well, you know, at all fish, it's like probably tuna. Really? Yeah, but there's, you know, they're running out of tuna, man. They keep just Jack and tuna talk to those old tuna guys in Japan. They're like, we used to see a lot of tuna. Now you go to the tuna market. It's a fraction of what it used to be. This is not as much tuna left. Yeah, people love sushi. I know they do in Atlanta. This was a lot of money. What happened? I know they love of sushi in Atlanta, bro. They had a big thing about sushi in Atlanta. What happened? Quick question. Quick question before I go. Because this is coming up and the next time we meet, I want to ask you about what you think. The vaccine. Are you taking it? I'll take it if it works. If I feel that the doctors have all gotten their opinions behind it and they think, you know what it is? It's like an mRNA vaccine, this new vaccine. It makes your body think that it doesn't introduce actual COVID into your system and you fight it off. It makes your body think that it's COVID and your body builds the proper proteins to fight it off. A guy explained it to us yesterday. Nicholas Christakis. He's from Yale. He thinks he's a good man. He thinks that he's a great man and I won't let you disparage him. No, I'm not disparaging. He's like he's certain niggas is so it be my for him. So he's a doctor. Okay. Anyway, he thinks the vaccine will be very effective. And even if you if it doesn't keep you from getting it, it'll prevent or hopefully prevent you from getting a bad case of it. I don't know though. So so what would you need? Would you would you would you need just the consensus of a body of doctors you trust and people's experiences because people have already taken it. So people have taken it like what is the experience? They say that they you know had they felt like shit for a few days. That's it. Now. Is that true? I mean, who are they? Talk to them. What's a few days and what do you mean by feel like shit? Like did you try running four days later and you still felt terrible like so it apparently they're distributing this vaccine almost now, right? I don't think it's totally ready, but it very soon will be ready. And if it's effective, they're going to encourage people to take it. It's it makes me feel really nervous for like doctors and like essential people. First. Yeah first and then it's going to probably people that are high risk like Yeah, but the thing is it's not have people have a sense of like there is something that could be done now. Like it's a sense of hope. It's a sense of progress. It's a sense of like, you know, we it was at one time we didn't have a thought of a vaccine. Now we got competitors and shit. Yeah, people to think different. Listen, if it works, we should take it just but I know how people get real nervous. Black people don't fuck with vaccines. I told you that son. How do you feel about it? Black people don't fuck with no vaccines. Dave. Well, I mean, I feel like it's inconclusive because your caveat was I take it if I felt safe about it. Yeah, that's the just just the thing. Don't you feel like that same way? Well, of course, but so now, you know for the first time we're learning we're learning how a drug the process of a drug, you know going through trials. We're learning this literally as a nation. We're all watching this thing take place and an accelerated version of it and accelerated version of it because usually a vaccine takes multiple years to develop. Yeah, so this is really quick to be able to have something this quick and turn it around and it's like those movies where they find a cure by the end and you're like, oh, that's bullshit. They're doing it. Well, not a cure but a vaccine. They're a big deal. It's the good thing is if another one comes around, they're going to be more prepared to do something like this quicker. Right. Like I think people needed to really understand that in our lifetime something can kill the world's economy and kill hundreds of thousands of people here and a million people worldwide. I think everybody. I don't think we I think we knew it. But I don't think we really expected it. Right now. They knew what they were the Obama administration had prepared for precisely that eventuality. But I mean us of Korea with we couldn't wrap our mind around it. Even if they told you even if you watch Bill Gates speech and Ted Talk in 2015, you would never internalize it and think there's there's a pandemic coming. Now, nobody now, we know there is now that we're going to want to invest in the medical infrastructure to make sure that they prepare better next time. This is hopefully people going to learn from this. That's all. Yeah. 100% people know class has nothing is going to be new. There's nothing going to be new about it. No. Well, the debate is largely philosophical, right? I mean to this end, there's two schools of thought one school of thought is it's just going to be what it's going to be. And we'll you got to keep moving like why close anything and the other school thought which I thought was you know, there's been more than just a philosophy. It was it was a science. Right remember the premise when they locked us up was we have to wait to catch up to our medical infrastructure. So we don't overburden our medical infrastructure. We got to suppress the disease till we can build up the infrastructure and they gave us an early estimate of two weeks. This is how comedian does when the comedian is doing a real long sitting goes one more thing before I go and then he does that four or five times and realize those guys going to do another hour. Oh, yeah, that's so fucking rude. Yeah, but you know that trick? Yeah, that's what the pandemic. Quarantine felt like two more weeks three more weeks. Maybe we'll open bars and you know that kind of shit. But there's no way to control it other than create it yourself. Right. What do you mean like the whole vibe of the the scene, right? The vibe of which scene the pandemic you said how do we get used to it? What can we do about it? Well, he's also saying here's the thing. We never signed up to let people tell us that we can and can't take risks or go to work. And by saying that if you do it, you're going to kill other people. That's what changed the game. And so everybody has to figure out how much of that they're willing to accept and how much of that are they not and whether or not they're willing to take a shot. Take this this vaccine without, you know, knowing the long-term effects of it or worrying about the long-term effects of it. Some people are naturally averse to taking any kind of medication. They don't want to do it and other people are like if you tell me it's good and all the doctors agree and then it will help mankind. I'll fucking do it. That's how I feel if I listen polio. Okay, shit doesn't exist anymore. Smallpox doesn't exist anymore. At least not in the numbers that it used to. Yeah, you got the whole vaccine for that. That's because of vaccines like the idea that vaccines have done bad things only or that they're dangerous only. It's crazy like vaccines are the responsible for the giant not vaccines. But I think that at the core of this is you just trust. Yes, do you trust these sources? And people realize that they're at the mercy of someone that they don't necessarily trust. Right. That's the that's the route. Well, maybe maybe don't don't touch your own face and don't go outside. I'll tell you when to come out. Sit love a renowned liar. Yeah, right. Tough one. That was a tough one. It's especially here. It goes something really touches something really sore in the core of an American's identity. Like you said, how can you tell me to do this? Yeah, it's crazy man. This was a tough one here. It's a weird one. It makes us redefine what it is to be a person. You know, like if all of a sudden you have other people that got elected into a position of power. That's all they did. They won a popularity contest and they're dictating that whether things go this way or that way and they don't necessarily have the right answer. They just have their own answer and Dallas is doing it different than this town and you know, Washington State's doing it different than Nevada. Everyone's doing it different. But everybody's trying to do it also. Yeah, but governors can tell you what you can and can't do. It gets real weird and I get it. They're trying to keep the hospital numbers down, but you told us it was going to be two weeks. Like you guys said two weeks and now here we are like nine months later and everyone's just waiting only for a vaccine. But I'm not speaking about, you know, the if it's right, if it's wrong, not speaking about like that. I'm just saying whatever it was that was very difficult. Yeah. That was very difficult. Very difficult. You know, I was fine, but not knowing when you can work not being able to move around that being able to see my mother, you know, you would never thought if someone had told me 11 months ago, even the night before they the last night. We want to move in Milwaukee. Yes, it's paps. The last show but there was the last night between shows. I used to show night. An energy had changed. It went from festive to like people look worried when I got off stage. Tom Hanks had had it the one NBA guy who would touch everything and had it and then the horn starts ringing that they're going to shut the country down. I literally go that's impossible. I shut we're going to shut down the world. It's impossible. This is what this is what I thought my initial reaction. But the energy changed now I go out and do the second show and immediately and I wouldn't think about this shit earlier at night. I come out on stage. I'm reaching out. I thought about it. Okay, I start, you know, shaking people's hands. Oh worried. But yeah, it was if but but the day before when I've even been concerned about it went into the green room 40 minutes and talked to people who've been glued to the television watching the news and then they they scared the shit out of me. My behavior changed almost instantly. It's interesting. I don't get too heavy. I mean, I'm only hanging out. No, man. No, it's not too heavy. That's exactly how I felt about it too. I remember I shook a dude's hand on a flight. I was flying to Vegas for the fights. It was like one of the last fights before they shut it down and some dude goes, I don't know you want to shake hands like I'll shake your hand. We shook hand. He had a mask on already. I was like wow, he was ready to go down. I think this was the very beginning of March. This was the first time I would have been tested any capacity was when I did your show that time. That was the first time I had an antibody test or anything. I would have never expected that here we would be deep into November and we're all still kind of locked down when this started you lived in LA had no plans to come here. Yeah, you're in Texas. Think about it. Your whole life has changed. What's interesting about this time was another thing we should talk about next time it come. Is that the in mass it feels like we're rewriting our social contracts, you know the whole thing and covid is an accelerant on this process that I could have never imagined. Yeah, you know, they're locked inside man. People are stuck in a house with their choices. Do you like your house? Do you like who you're with? Do you like these things you've accumulated? I hope you like them because you stuck with them. I made great choices. I like my choices. You know when I was faced with it like that. I was like, I had much better than many people but imagine people doing that in mass. It's pretty powerful. It's pretty powerful. What does this do to a society? This type of isolation and and and almost forced reflection. Yeah, which is not a necessarily a bad thing, right? And we've always talked about how life is a rat race, right? People get stuck in this rat race. It feels never-ending. It's not good that all these people lost their jobs. It's not good that all these people are going to lose where they live, but it might help some people recognize that if you just keep going in this rat race, it just never ends. You got to figure out a way out and now is a better time to figure out a way out than ever because you kind of have to you kind of have to and society as it existed 10 months ago. It's not the same place. What's the country? What's the country that is a country? Maybe somewhere in the South Pacific or something that measures their success as a nation with what they call their gross national happiness. There's a totally different premise. What country is that? I can't remember. Maybe you Google gross national happiness. Thanks fingers. It says Bhutan. There it is. Bhutan. There you go. This is a real principle. It's a philosophy guide to the government. Think about this. This is a philosophy that guides the government of Bhutan. It includes an index which is used to measure the collective happiness. This is the metric that they use to define this success. If they try that in America, they turn into an app and it would fuck up everything. Oh my God. People would just be striving to win the points on the app. It would make people insane that get addicted to trying to be a better person. This is the vast thing. This is a vastly better metric. I'm not, you know, a communist and that shit. But I think that I know too many people who are very wealthy who have what I consider poor quality of life. Yeah, just because the like you say the wealth is the point. Yeah, they chased it. They chased it and they didn't have any friends. Right. You're very well. Once we are hunting you love your dog. Your dog hangs out with you like fucking Scooby-Doo. Your kids like your kids like you you you you're living an adventure of a life. Now you're doing the same thing. You're doing in LA in a totally different city just because you're following that knowing feeling I gotta be free. Whatever it is. There's a little bit of that and then there's also like I think you're better off living in a place with less people. I think when you live to be you live in a place with like LA it's great in that there's a lot of resources. There's a lot of shit happening. There's a lot of people but it's bad in that sometimes people it diminishes the value of people a little bit when there's so many of them like people stop thinking about. LA is valuable. I don't even think that is that for me the thing the thing that I always had a hard time with was the point of the place with show business. Yeah. So when I was coming up in my career everything reminded me of the things I didn't have and nothing let me appreciate where I was and then now I love it. It's a winter circle. I'm doing great. So I can get in any restaurant got to get you know, but I remember what it felt like being there. It's like that's why I don't live there. No disrespect to LA but it's like if I like a restaurant, I don't move in and say I just come when I want to eat. I'm gonna live in the restaurant. I think your your idea of living in another place gives you perspective. There's no question. The best way to our perspective if you're stuck in that show biz world, you know that becomes your culture. Your culture is like this tiny fraction of the human beings in the world and so many people just start relating only to people in that culture like that you get real isolated that way. Yeah, and for what we do for living. I was that conducive to anything. No wise artistically. No, it's a very wise decision. Like really wise. Yes, smells great. That candle is the shit. I'll do a commercial for right now. You can cut this out of thank you. Hi, I'm Dave Chappelle and this is a black-ass candle. Smells way better than sounds. Take it from me. And as you Larry. Black-ass bitch. Cut. One take. Beautiful. Give us a light it. Oh, yeah do that. Get the Saint going. So when you touring now, do you just pick a city and say, oh, I'm gonna do Denver three nights at a row. Find me a venue. Well, I don't know what this on show, but just between us. Well, you could I don't know. I'm not trying to we don't have to put anything on the show that you but I want to post up here for like, you know, few weeks. It's cold in Ohio. I like playing outdoors. I like this stubs place a lot. Beautiful. It's rockin. So I cut that's why I said we do damn thing. Think around December January. Stay here for four or six weeks try to finish the act that I was boy. I was close when we were supposed to do those shows and Me and Joe Rogan went on sale with some tickets. This is this Joe. We must have sold 36,000 tickets in like 10 minutes. It was it was insane. We were so excited to do the show and like a week or two before. Yeah, the shutdown happened. I was part of that shit. And it was gonna be nice. So the ones we did were fun too, though. What was it? I've never seen you have been remember when watched once upon a time in Hollywood and all that. Yeah, it was so much fun. It was like in the morning. The conversations. We were. We were there. That was when we were in. No, that was no Seattle. That was yeah, it was Tacoma. Tacoma. I don't know. That was fun. That was fire. That was fun. I was so much fun conversations. We'd have in the green room, you know, every every tour has its own culture with the culture this tour that we did together was great. Yeah, Ian that was who was traveling with you. He was always famine man. He was always tired from not getting the right protein. Yeah, yeah. This nigga slept the whole joint side. But Ian and I the first time I'd ever left the country. I was like 18 at my 19th birthday there in Scotland. I did the Edinburgh Festival and Ian Edwards was on the festival doing a show when we you know, black dudes from from the West like way West man. We hit it off. We would crack each other up and the and then bam. I just see him, you know on the road made me feel 20 years younger. And we you know, we all sit around the green room. The lights are red music's good really good vibes really good company. It was it was a perfect mash. You nail it with the red lights in your room. It changes everything. I'm gonna steal that from you. Oh man, man, please be my guest. Maybe I'll go with purple. It's all about the ombre. Because I used to just sit in a room with hard white lights and the fruit plate that I don't know how long it had been there and no music and you know, the early days no friends. He just sitting in there and he was maybe it may be a joke book just waiting just waiting all the time. Just waiting just waiting and at some point you realize well, this has got to be fun. I can't just be sitting in these rooms looking at these walls. Who the fuck has to bring a book to work? It was that it was that so I just started sexing it up. I just having fun and and then when you start getting big on the road, you start bringing your friends out and all that shit then it gets really fun and you become like a surrogate family the longer you stay out together. You know, you learn each other's creature habits. You find out shit about each other. You don't know you see what the shacks I see what what people are made of man. We had so much the road and we had so much fucking fun. Yeah, you would love that Ohio shit. Yeah, you remember that I could have gone but that's when I was planning on coming here. That night that we not doing any stand-up. I had my drone that night. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We have my drone. I don't even know how to fly my own drone. One of my friends was flying the drone and it was late at night. It was a yo get the drone shot. So we get the drone shots and then the drone went up in the air. It's like about 2 o'clock in the morning and we thought we lost the drone. We didn't see no red lights. No blue lights. It was just God. We was like, oh shit nigga. We got to go find a drone. We like we're about to get out of here. We thought we lost the drone. The drone was supposed to be at at the bed and breakfast. How well can you control those things? Like the people don't know how to drive it. They can control it where they can't see it through like measurements and distance and everything. We have things are good though. They had buttons on there. You know, they could track it track a person or an object if you wanted to just follow a car or anything like that. Really remember in LA the paparazzi started doing all this crazy drone shit. I'm sure they got you. We had the drone guys. We had the drone shot. I was drinking coffee. You hear the buzzing. Yeah, you hear the shit and you know that there's a dude a block away somewhere. Isn't that weird? Like they could they could kind of find you now with a drone and we did the drone shot from the place. We thought we lost it. We was going to go search. I was like get my motherfucking drone nigga, right? We give a get everybody the car to go find his drone. We don't see this guy nowhere to all of a sudden said it was like a movie. We saw these blue lights come up and we heard the Z and that motherfucker came everybody was like, oh shit. They're gonna drone and that shit came all the way back That was a good shot. That was a great shot. I met the governor of Texas. I went to the mansion hang out with them governor Abbott and I had whiskey and barbecue with them and while we're hanging out at his house a drone comes by and hovers in the sky. That's the one the light goes on and we're watching this drone. The security guys are trying to figure out where the drones coming from and who's got the drone and it turned out to be like the fire department really our department has their own drone and they're flying their drone around looking for stuff that makes a lot of sense man, but they they're like that's like how you can spot fires how they can figure out what's going on. If there's a some sort of a car accident, they could probably send a drone out get video image of it. So they know what to expect. How you get there makes sense, right? There's a new car like that some drone the headlights are drones. You got to look this up. What is it? The headlights fly away. What do you mean? The headlights are attached to the car, right? They're on if you get out of the car, they pop off and start flying around and make a path of light. That's that's I think that's the thing. Audi created an autonomous off-roader that uses flying drones to illuminate the road instead of headlights. Show Joe the video. What? It's ill as fuck. Oh my god, they're ahead of the car. The fucking headlights are ahead of the car. It's the illest shit I've ever seen. That's some Star Wars shit, right? Yeah precision drones. If you have the key in your pocket, they'll follow you like if you're walking in the woods. It's crazy. That thing looks wild. It looks like some shit Jamie Foxx drives already. He already has one of those. Yeah, the gas station Fox probably has this. He has one of those resvoneys. Isn't that what it's called? It's like a resvone tank. I ran into him at the gas station. I was like who the fuck is driving that thing? Jamie Foxx, what's up? That thing looks awesome though. That Audi, that's a slick looking car too. It's crazy. Somewhere online there's a video demonstration. And it's probably going to be electric, right? Yeah. Yeah, everything's electric. Look at this. Look at this shit. It's that. Dyle, look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Watch when it's driving. Oh shit, that's a headlights? Yes, the headlights are ahead making the road bright. Yo, that's some gangster shit right there, son. They're flying like little UFOs. That's nuts. Could you imagine if you saw that drive by you somewhere? Yeah, be like oh my god. I think I saw an alien. That's crazy. That's going to be the future. Look at that shit. They fly ahead of you and illuminate the road. That's bananas and you just have to trust them with your little bitch ass lights. You have some little bitch ass fog lights. You have to trust the daddy's that are flying around. That's how the government's going to control you. And I want to keep you going on their road. No, no, no, you don't want to look at that road. That one's dark. The drones only go on this road. Come on. Son, where can I get pizza? Probably a pizza place. Fine again. So come on, man. You started like this man. Why are you doing this to me? We'll find a pizza place for you. What do you what kind of pizza you want? Thin crust. I could get a pizza pizza. A pizza pizza? A piece of pizza. A piece of pizza. Yeah. Pizza pizza. I gotta get some more gauze too, man. Are you all right? Let's take five. You want to give me? Yeah, can we just- Yeah, we can just end this. It's already 4.35. We've been doing this forever. Oh, wow. He and I have been doing this for four and a half hours. I know, man. He been disrespecting my gunshot wound. I didn't. I told Jamie. I didn't, right? Never. This is not true. No, this is true. Teamwork is dream work. Thanks, Dave. That was fun. Oh my God. Next time we'll do it for real. For real, for real. Yeah, for sure. 100%. I love it. Thank you, son. Donnell, that was fun. Thank you. Thanks for the candle. Thanks for the cream. Thanks for everything. Black ass, bitch! Thanks for everything. Donnell- What about my show? RFK Stadium. RFK Stadium. DC Improv, the traditional Thanksgiving show. And the date is? November 28th. And Pixar's Soul Comes Out Christmas Day on Disney Plus. Keep people focused on the show. What? I'm sorry, Joe. The 28th? Joe, you keep disrespecting me, man. I want people to come and see you. The way you said it. I'm trying to find out where the tickets are. There it is. Alright. There it is. So Drive-In Comedy at RFK. No, I'm trying to promote your show. Sorry. ParkUpDC.com. So go to ParkUpDC.com. It's the 28th. Your traditional. Yes. That's it. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Joe. I enjoyed it. Oh, I love you too. I love you, dog. She's awesome. Alright, bye everybody.