Joe Rogan, Eddie Bravo, Brendan Schaub on God and Simulation Theory

Isn't the history great though? Like to have all this stuff and go through all the different theories and fucking... Well, what's crazy with history is now we can see it. Before people just told it. It wasn't until like the 20th century that really people saw it. Before that it was just people telling stories about stuff. Who knows what's real? Like from the 1700s and... They do their best to piece it together from multiple accounts, but it's really hard. That's the Bible, isn't it? Oh, the Bible's even worse. The Bible's... I mean it's a bunch of stories of... But it's not just that. A bunch of stories translated multiple times. That's what I'm saying for a shitload of people. But for sure it got translated and all that shit with the Bible. But for sure, in my heart I'm 100... I believe it 100% that there is some stuff in the Bible that's the real shit. There is... It comes from the real shit. It got distorted and translated and all that. What do you mean by the real shit? Like it's a manual on how to live your life, right? You know what I mean? These are rules. Like maybe God is the idea. Maybe God is the... And Jesus is the frequency. You want to get in that frequency of life? Don't deceive anybody. Don't kill each other. Fuck each other up. Then you will be in that zone. That's what God is. Like maybe the book is a manual. It's got to be because there's one thing... Like I said, I'm balls deep in trying to find the truth. Sometimes I'm wrong, whatever. But a lot of guys... A lot of guys... Three different guys that I looked up to and looked and asked for information because they were so into a certain area that I wasn't into. I'm like, tell me more. Tell me more. And they are like my mentors. At the end, dude, all of them, they're starting to look into the Bible. And I remember the first guy back in 2005 when I was like full blown, like the bug against religion and all that. I would say, dude, what are you doing? Dude, you showed me the way. And now you're looking in the Bible and goes, I know it sounds crazy, but you got to look into it too. This isn't just a book with crazy fairy tales. This is some real shit. Well, what it is is a historical account of the times of the people that lived back then as best they could tell it translated down over thousands of years. So there's some absolute truths in the Bible and there's some great guides to live your life. But there's also some nonsense. For sure. For sure. Not just that. Maybe ignore the nonsense. I mean, I've been sicked two bears on these kids that were making fun of this dude for being bald. That's the Jack and Jill stories, for sure. For sure. That's in there. You have to wonder how much of any of the original stories. Well, if you look at mainstream history of like Catholicism, I grew up Catholic, you did too. Yeah. Catholic? Christian. Christian. Well, the mainstream story. Name a branch. Lutheran? No. What's the normal one? Protestant? You're not nothing. Baptist. I'm nothing. I'm a theotist. No. That's the theotist. You're agnostic, right? You're not sure. Deotist. I believe there's a God, but I don't believe in like Jesus or... Okay. When you think about there's a God, like what's the thought that comes through your head? Like what do you think? And when you say, I think there's a God. I think there's a higher being. You know? A thing? I don't know. I just think, for me, what I'm saying. I think there's the energy in our body goes somewhere. There's something that makes us, you know? Like I can feel certain things like love or intuition, stuff like that. That has to be something, you know? I think that goes somewhere. I don't think there's a heaven and hell. Jordan Peterson has some really good advice on that. He said, whether or not you believe in a God, he goes, live as if God is real. And there's real benefits. I believe that. I think it really... If you really do have that kind of gratitude and humility that you're being watched over by a loving God. Yeah. I think there's a benefit to thinking like that. It's just about doing the right thing. It's all about how do we get the people to do the right thing. I believe there's a God because a couple things. You know, when I did DMT, I went into... I thought, okay, there's way more shit to this reality, this dimension that's out there. That we're not seeing all the time. And then the more I get into trying to find out what we're on and what this is all about. I think someone created what we're in. Whatever you think this is. I think this is something. I don't believe in simulation. Me neither. Why don't they believe in simulation? There's just no evidence. When you think about your kids and shit, that bums me out. There's no evidence. But it could be true. It could be, but there's zero evidence. But you know what? Really smart people don't just say... I don't go by consensus. Not only is there evidence, but if you look at probability theory. What was that guy's name? That was Nick Bolstrom. We talked about it in depth. And he said, according to probability theory, it's more likely that we're in a simulation. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe that's true. Because of the fact that simulation is almost inevitable. Unless we get disrupted by nature, unless we get hit with an asteroid or start a nuclear war, it's inevitable that technology reaches a point where simulation is possible. Well, if you watch Rick and Maury, that's what it is. Well, if simulation is real, then the simulation goes on forever in the space that everyone thinks there is. It could be a part of an infinite life. An infinite computer program? No, it's not that simple. It could be one of the facets of life. We could be creating a simulation just through culture and society. And that simulation is literally how we enter into another dimension. We're looking at it like it's some nonsense thing. Yeah. Like it's a simulation. Oh, it's just a simulation. It could literally be how dimensions are created. They're created by creativity and ingenuity and innovation over long periods of time with millions of people working in conjunction, different people figuring out processing power and coding and all these different things. And next thing you know, you've got these, there's these virtual reality places. Like we have an Oculus out there that you could put on and you could do all these games. It's really fun. But there's some virtual reality places now that you go into a warehouse and you go through this whole thing. You know, there's a place that's in Disneyland and there's another place down the street called Sandbox and you play games. Oh, there's an arcade. There's VR arcade at the Westfield Mall and a riverside that's called... There's one right here. Parallel Universe. But don't you think if we're in a simulation and you believe we're in a simulation, if I was not right in the head, it'd be way easier for me to commit suicide if I just think in this whole simulation. Yeah, I mean, you get started. There's a lot of variables. There's a lot of variables about why should I just do whatever I want. It's just a simulation. If a simulation doesn't count, does it? I don't think it's that simple. I think all the rules apply. I think what they're trying to say is if human beings keep going, we definitely will create a simulation. It's just a matter of time. So if that's the case, how do we know that we're not in one already? And we really don't. Every day we go to sleep and every day we wake up and we assume and we have faith that all that stuff that we remember is really how life went on before we were awake. But we really don't know. When you black out and then come back to who the fuck knows what's transpiring, who knows where your consciousness goes, who knows where you are, you're gone. Eight hours seems like a second. All of a sudden you're foggy, a couple of minutes to wake up and boom, where'd that time go? Where are you? Who are you? You're assuming that all of the stuff that you know and all the stuff that you experience is 100% real. But what if it is real? What do you mean? If the simulation is real? No, if the simulation isn't real and we are on this earth, then you are down for eight hours. When it comes to simulation theory, what else is possible? The odds of that are prime. But the passing out is a bad example. The good example is that we are within 100 years away from making something that's indiscernible from what we experience every day. And that's inevitable. It seems like just how people do it. And what I'm saying is that might literally be how your consciousness transforms into whatever next stage of existence there is. It might be something that human beings do, like a caterpillar makes a cocoon and becomes a butterfly. Human beings make crazy fucking technology. And I think that's one of the reasons why we're so invested in materialism. Everybody loves things. They love shiny things, especially the new ones. All of you have the newest car. It's even faster. The newest computer has better graphics. And as all this stuff, as we're paying for newer and better shit, it's fueling all this innovation, which making crazier and crazier technology. Until artificial intelligence. Until we create something that you can't turn off. Or you download your consciousness and you just, you know, you can download another body or another. That might be what a simulation is. That might be what a simulation is. What a simulation might be is that when we open this up with sufficient power and technology and processing power, whatever you are might go into this thing. That's a bit of a bummer though, right? I don't know. When you think about it, like let's say when you're a hundred and finally technology there, you just download your consciousness into another body. You just keep going. It's like, man, this is it. This is it. We don't go on. It's that's depressing as fuck to me. It's kind of what's kind of fat. I mean, what what are we? That's the thing. It's like, what the fuck are we? When we're thinking and talking, when you're thinking of yourself like you, when you're using the word I, I am going to do this. I'm going, what does that mean? Like, where are you? You're you're you're this strange being that's got a finite lifespan. It's not really that long. Not at all. I mean, Eddie and I are middle aged motherfuckers if we're lucky. You're on the back. You're on the back. We're in the back nine. I'm almost there. Yeah. And then you die. So what is going on while you're alive? It's all guesswork, man. We don't know what this is. And everyone is involved in the guesswork from the highest levels of government down to fucking the poorest people in the world. Everyone's guessing. It's all weird. It's all real weird. And it's all we're going to die in the next generation is going to pick up in the next generation after them is going to pick up. But life is because of technology and science, you're you know, the average life span is going like this. It is. But also you have more information. You can look at history. You can look at how long we've been here. The more they start. They just found another asteroid impact from eight hundred thousand years ago. Jesus. They knew we were hit eight hundred thousand years ago. But now they've located the crater. It's like we read that in the library. Yes. I've watched it on YouTube. This it's becoming this. You know, people are realizing like there's there's only been a short amount of time where human beings have even been human. We've only been human for half a million years at the most. Some of that stuff buzzes you out, especially have kids. You know, it's weird. Well, if but think about it this way. If you were a Neanderthal or, you know, a fucking Australia, Pythagus and, you know, you were told that your species is going to go extinct. You think all the good times you had killing muskrats and cooking them over the fire with your kids and and hiding from jaguars and shit. You think all those good times like this. We're not going to be us anymore. No, no, no. You think you think of this as a computer simulation at what point like when did it start like an eighteen hundreds, the sixteen hundreds, two hundred A.D., five thousand B.C. At when did when was the beginning of this simulation? Who knows? We don't know. This is a video game where you create your own worlds. Sim City, baby. No, no, no. More crazy. There's a video game where you literally create a universe, create a planet. You put things on it and like, was that game called you and Jimmy? Was it? Odd world. No man's sky. I think that's what you're talking about. That could be what the universe is. I mean, the whole thing about the Big Bang, like the Big Bang means that the entire universe is smaller than the head of a pen at one point in time. No, no, no. But hold on a second. So the universe smaller than the head of a pen. Boom, explodes, becomes everything. Well, what started that? Well, how do we not know that that was somebody somebody press start on a program? That's not even happened. Like that. The theory is billions of years ago out of nothing, everything exploded. What do you think? Well, you know, came up with it. You become a religious. You know, you know, came up with it. Dude, if you start talking about Jesus said he would come up with the Big Bang. You can look this up right now. The Big Bang is a priest from the Vatican. A priest came up with that. There was a theory. Science. Yeah, scientist in. Nope. A priest. Are you sure? A million percent. So he was the first one. But you know, I know I have a good idea why. Why? That's going to take like 10 minutes. Can I have another? Yeah. Please. Get someone. There's ice in that thing. You know, if we're in a simulation, you're talking about, you know, the homeless guy or the kid starving in Ethiopia. He's like, what the fuck, dude? The guy grinding his way out or the single mother of five working at McDonald's. She's like, what kind of who the fuck chose this? Right. What is going on here, man? So I feel like only people who are higher up and people that money say we're in a simulation. Yes, the guy at McDonald's. I bet you there's not one dude we're going to McDonald's going. I think it's a simulation. That's true. But that's just because when you're struggling for survival, everything is more important. Like you're on the edge. But the thing about a guy like Elon Musk, who's one of the proponents of the simulation theory, the thing about a guy like him is he's got enough resources to relax a little bit. But also he is involved in technology every day. And he's probably one of the smartest people on earth. And he's financially stable. So he can stop and think and think about things in a way where he's not he's not overburdened by like he has stresses for sure. And obligations for sure. Massive ones, three giant companies. But what he doesn't have is like survival stress, survival stress about being poor or being in danger. But also the level that where his IQ is so high, right, he's on a different frequency. He might be too smart. There's a lot of things where when he speaks, I go, yeah, he's smart as fuck. I don't agree with him. You know, I like that's not once I start seeing like organic matter, like body parts and they watch it under like some microscope. Yeah. And you see some like computer numbers and stuff. Then I'd be like, oh, shit. What are you talking about? For me to believe to take that we live in a computer simulation seriously, I'd have to see like evidence like that. You know, if it is a computer simulation, Eddie, that means everything that's physical you're experiencing in a simulated way. So it could be everything. It could like if you're if it's just your mind experiencing things that your mind translate as being physical sensations. Real. Why would it have numbers? I get it. I get it. And maybe we do live in a simulation. I just don't see any evidence. How about counts at three thirty, though? Oh, we knew it. I told you. Fucking. I said we're not waiting for him. It's four o'clock now. Yeah. Look, I'm not saying that we're in a simulation. What I'm saying is I think things are a lot weirder than anybody wants to admit or or just overthinking it or or there's so much information. The Internet and there's smart people just overthinking everything. And there is no simulation. There's that. You live your life. It's over, man. Lights out. Could be could be. That's it. We want to think there's something next because we want to hope that our contributions are permanent and that we're going to we're going to somehow or another come back and another kids coming to play. Right. Your seeds. And also the way you treat people and the things that you rub off on other people and they start to carry it on.