Joe Rogan & Dorian Yates on Palumboism

Hello freak bitches! There he is Phil Heath. Prejacked. Yep. Phil Heath is you know giant. He's not very wide in the shoulders. That's his weak point but he's got huge long muscle bellies on most of his body. His pecs are not great but the rest you know. The rest is a it doesn't really have any weak points. That's why is is ahead of everybody else. And you just think there's just less people doing it now. There's less people going into competitive bodybuilding because a lot more avenues and I think it's less popular now because it's almost like peaked out with myself and run in and gone down a little bit. It's like how do you you know how do you surpass it got to a peak and guys are trying to do that so that they you know that they're trying to get big and they're getting big but they're getting big with a big waist and everything as well so it's not the same. It's not the same look. It's not the same quality. That's got to be super dangerous isn't it? When you see those guys those enormous bloated bellies. Yeah there's a huge debate and like what is that you know? What is it? I don't know. Is it internal organs that are growing? Well here's the thing initially that's what people thought right and my waist started getting a little bloated around 96, 97 maybe 97 when I was using insulin right. Got a little bloated a little distended but when I retired it went down and I actually in England because I was always like I'm taking steroids for this sport because I'm a professional when I'm not competing I'm not going to take them so stop taking them and also I took growth hormone and that was the thing. A lot of people think growth hormone is going to increase the size of internal organs and that's why guys are getting bloated waistline. So I went and had a real I mean a battery of tests where they actually measure all your internal organs and mine were all totally normal apart from my heart was a bit bigger and stronger but that's just normal athletic heart so that wasn't the case. So perhaps it's fat that's building up around internal organs or maybe it's just a lot of water in the intestines and just floats the waist out. The short answer is I don't really know. Who's that guy in the far left? That's like a turtle shell. Doesn't that look like a turtle shell? Yeah. Jesus Christ. So that could be insulin that could be a variety of things. We've only seen this kind of thing happening since the guys are using insulin and IGF which is insulin life growth factor. So yeah it's not a good look. It's not a you know. It's weird. The turtle shell look is so weird. It literally looks like so. It's like the guys have got big like but everywhere systemic like growth. You know when you're trying with weights you know your major muscles are going to grow but not around the waist can thicken a little bit but not that much. Now when you got off of everything and retired what was the crash like? Well it wasn't something I was ready for. I had a lot of things going on in my life. I had a divorce. I had somebody close to me pass away and I'm you know retiring. I say a death in the family or divorce or retirement is like a major stressful event. How about having all fucking three at the same time while you're not while you're coming down from steroids. So yeah I definitely suffer from depression anxiety. I don't like I don't know what's going on. Like why do I feel like this. I didn't even like now I know because you fucking can't stop cold turkey because I'm extreme. I'm like I'm using them because I'm doing this. I'm stopped now and stop. So and I had no real help. There was no real like this guys now and especially in the States that you know they specialize in you patients that are using steroids and all the possible side effects and coming off and all that stuff. I don't really have any of that. So I just went cold turkey and after about two years my normal testosterone was still not coming into the normal. So then I went on the replacement therapy which is like twice a month testosterone replacement and then I felt normal again. Thank you.