Joe Rogan - Conor McGregor's Coach on Nate Diaz 3

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John Kavanagh

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John Kavanagh is a MMA coach & Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner.

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George Lockhart is a performance nutrition specialist.

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I've scratched my head about this. If I had that money, I'd think I could engage with the people. No, thank you. I'm good. And he wants to get right back in. He wants to. Or fight Floyd. And definitely the heavy ones. That's the top of the list. If you had to guess what's next, what would you think? You know, I won't pretend to understand the business side of things. Him and Audi and Paradigm, they do all of that. And, you know, the fans, somewhat the... And the officials decide who gets the next shot. I only deal with what's going to be put in front of me. I think it will be a rematch. I think it will be that. Now, I'll be getting torn apart on Twitter. It isn't there. This. And this guy's... I'm only saying what I think. Is it going to be someone else? Will it be... You know, it's Tony... I don't really know. But that's what I see him talking about. So that's how my mind is. What do you think would be different in terms of the way he approaches it, in terms of trash talking and all that other stuff? He's never going to not be him. That's the side of his personality, you know. And, you know, it's a dividing line. And my parents are not mad about it. But kids in my gym love it. You know, it's just one of those things. Connor's never not going to do that. That's... Like in Dublin, you know, where he's from, there was always that guy in the class that was just sharp-witted, you know. Had the quick reply. And from the moment I met him, he was just that guy that's like, you can't make a tiny mistake around him. You make him feel stupid very quick, you know. You know, being on the end of it. Yeah. But I remember going to... I remember that guy in school as well. And it just happens that he has a, you know, little left hand on top of that. And then he has the look and he's just an unusual package that it all came together. So I don't... You know, the build up for DS2, he didn't stop. It wasn't like he was going to go, oh, well, I hope I don't lose this time. And, you know, he went down with the same kind of mindset he had. And I've no doubt he would go into that fight as fully prepared as we can. And he'd be 100% sure in his mind he's going to destroy him and around because that's how he always thinks. If there's another fight that would sell and it would be huge, it would be that. It would be DS3. Oh, yeah. That could be, especially if Diaz gets past Poirier. Yes. And he... shit, even if he doesn't. I mean, just that fight alone. I mean, there's the history between those two guys. I mean, that would be... And it's so appealing stylistically as well, the fight, you know, like I'm a grappler at heart. I love grappling. But I also understand that a jujitsu tournament will put people asleep. You know, even if you're into jujitsu, it's hard to watch a jujitsu tournament. Yes. But anybody can see a punch hitting someone in the head and then falling down. That's, you know, that's exciting. And him and Diaz, it's such a great personality matchup. It's such a great skill clash. You know, if I was to design somebody that's going to bring the best out of a corner, you'd want someone that, you know, can hit back and take a big shot and put up at the trash. It's a beautiful fight. I always... I would love to see that very much. Yeah. The thing about Diaz when they first fought was that he didn't give a fuck about trash talk. It didn't bother him at all. It was normal. Yes. It was like, oh, OK, we're doing this? Yeah. Yeah, it was brilliant. It was amazing. It was it was what everybody wanted to see at the time. It's because Connor was so good at talking shit and people would get so flustered. But then Diaz didn't give a fuck. And you can tell he didn't give a fuck. It was just so normal for him. And it was like, wow, trash talk doesn't work on Diaz. Yeah, really doesn't work. Yeah, like I'd known about some of his training partners and he's like Connor, like in the gym. He's trash talking to his brother. He's trash talking to whoever he's sparring. It's because it's fun, you know, and it's always just, you know, when we have Connor having a big spar, you know, the gym will be packed up. Everybody wants to come down and see him sparring. And you see, you know, he's talking to the guy at the hallway to whether it's a close friend like Artem or whether it's someone we brought in that he doesn't know. It's not going to change him, you know. I'll be, I certainly don't sparring, but it'll roll and he'll trash talk me when I'm trying to do my Jesus. Shut up. But it's, you know, it's just, it's his personality. So what timeline do you think we're looking at in terms of his return? If you had to guess. Well, it was funny. I was looking at March 16th is, you know, Paddy's Day is March 17th. That's a Sunday, March 16th is a Saturday. Oh, wow. Imagine like MSG on the Saturday night before Paddy's Day. Oh my God. That'd be insane. I wonder if it's not booked. Yeah, I was actually going to go on. MSG is booked pretty far in advance. I'd imagine so. I'd imagine so. And they're doing one in November to do two at MSG in a year. I think you could do Connor in there every weekend. And you could. You could also do the Boston Garden. Just him and Diaz every weekend and it's going to be, it's going to be packed out. You could do the TD Garden in Boston too. Yeah, yeah, we've had good times there. Fucking Irish in Boston. More Irish in Boston than there is in Ireland. And you could do, of course, Vegas. Yeah, Vegas. I mean, just I saw that date, but, you know, like you said, just the big summer card as well. You have Fight Week, the July card. I think probably next summer is probably realistic. We have to obviously see what punishment the people get. So, you know, I hope it's not a long ban. Yeah, I do too. I mean, everybody was so amped up after the fact. And, you know, I was like, oh, man, this could be terrible. But Monday morning, I'm like, eh, what the fuck happened? Really? Nobody died. Nobody even got cut. Couple of people got punched in a place where people get punched. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah. No, I have to go to her hat in that I am. I have a big commercial gym. I coach kids. I'm head president of the amateur MMA association back home. I deal with politicians all the time. And this is the exact thing that they're arguing with me, you know, when I'm wearing a suit on Wednesday, meeting with the Minister for Sport. And so I'm looking at the phone, great. That's what's going to be brought up at my next meeting when I'm trying to get governing body status for my life's work, my art, my sport. Right. And I'm trying to tell plus 60 year olds that this is legitimate and they're showing me this. And you're, you know, so for that, it was terrible. You know, there's no other way around.