Joe Rogan - Conor Didn't Tap Prematurely Against Khabib

Calm and then we're sort of I maintain that's that really depends on who's choking you because Josh Berkman choked him completely unconscious. Okay. Okay. Yeah Yeah, you know Berkman's got a hell of a guillotine and John Fitz shot in on him and Berkman caught him in a guillotine He was brought asleep in the first round. I think it there's there's guys that can just put you to sleep, right? Okay, if you think that you can get away with that shit with like a Marcelo Garcia, you're gonna wake up going what happened? Really? Okay. Yeah. Okay, but most guys won't be able to choke you so to that point, you know And again, I'm catching up on 157 days of UFC You know why I was actually out at sea with McGregor and Khabib but on that note Do you think he tapped premature? Do you think he went to sleep? McGregor went to sleep. Oh that and that fight. I thought you meant John fish ins Josh Berkman. Yeah, no, no I mean it was a neck crank, right? No, he did not tap premature He did not defend it though Okay, here's the deal he was done he was beaten down Khabib fucked him up Khabib smashed him But there was a lot of people that don't train and this was very frustrating to me There was many people that don't train that think that that was something that you shouldn't tap to there They're out of their fucking mind. Okay, that is what's called a fulcrum choke. That's okay. Okay, it's it's not necessarily a choke But it is it chokes you but it really feels like your fucking heads gonna pop off What he's doing is he's wrapping around the face and you don't have to even go under the jaw You can get it on the chin, especially if you're as strong as Khabib Then you clamp your hands together and you're pressing your forearm against his back So you've got this and you get the forearm against his back and you're doing this just leave your fucking head. It's just like It's and Khabib is so strong his grip He's been grappling since he was a baby right all of his muscles are designed to squeeze and crush and smash And he gets a hold of your neck in that position and he's got that forearm Pressed against your back see if you can find an image of the actual submission You could really clearly see what he's doing and then there was a video where Dean Lister and my friend Hans Molenkamp Described it pulling that up and it's been taken off Instagram for that video. Yeah, the Hans Molenkamp Dean Lister video So maybe someone reposted it and that link is gone. But yeah, huh? Did you check Dean Lister's That's so weird Wonder why anybody would take that down anyway There's guys who could fuck your face up without even going under the neck a good example. Here's another good example Just pull this up. You got it. Okay one from right after the fight, but he's still describing it. Okay. Oh, this is perfect This is perfect. So Dean Lister who's a world champion Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt as legit as it gets and this is my friend Hans Molenkamp He's also Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt and see see this is exactly what Khabib did see how his forearm is pressed against the back And the arm is under the chin. See the difference is what Dean is doing. He can't even help himself He's immediately putting his arms his hands on the arm. That's choking him. That's what you're supposed to do Now if you look at what Connor did Connor just waited until he couldn't take it anymore and tapped right? Right when you see Connor both of his arms are down He's getting his neck cranked and he doesn't do this, right? That's what you supposed to do you supposed to do two on one and then you dropped out like look at this See what he's doing there. He's tapping But see where his left arm is. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That left arm should not this you you can't you can't do that. See that is a perfect example of the fulcrum choke See how he's doing that pressing his forearm against the back Squeezing the head. It's it's a neck crank. It's a choke. There's a lot of shit going on there It doesn't have to be under the chin It could just be on your face and you're gonna get fucked up So all those folks out there that were saying that it wasn't a choke Need to go have someone apply that to them Okay, they need to start training jiu-jitsu and stop fucking talking about MMA submissions because they they don't that right that you're gonna tap bitch Don't say you're not gonna tap you're gonna fucking tap right now Not everybody's gonna tap from that because other people unlike Connor are gonna be better at defending that they're gonna great Like you get a hold of a world-class Brazilian jiu-jitsu blackbell who's also an MMA fighter like like Vinny Magalie's He's gonna grab a hold of that. He's gonna defend properly. He's gonna adjust He's gonna try to get out of that. Yeah, he might have to tap if someone gets a minute I mean he people tap but he's he's not gonna just have one arm posted That's just not the right way to handle, but I think that's because Connor had eaten bombs