Joe Rogan & Colin Moriarty on the Death of Old Media

Hello freak bitches Everyone's mad about everything like Donald Trump reads everyone's mad Donald Trump read today The picture that's going around on CNN where it's like it was literally like this Donald Trump afraid of stairs Was like the chiron the lower third and it's like and it's like stairs and it's like first elevators Yeah, he prefers gilded elevators, but they're serious. This is a real question. Yeah, this is the kind of stuff that's going on And so when you say STA IR or as I know stairs like that you walk up and down And AI RS because it could be like the easy way afraid of stan But uh to me I'm like, you know, and that's why it goes back You know the fact is and I think this is an important component to maybe making you understand what happened a little bit better Cuz you're not in the in that ecosystem but I think you can relate because you're seeing it happen elsewhere is that the gaming media is dying and They're dying because no one really trusts or cares trust them or cares what they have to say anymore People in ten-year-olds and fifteen-year-olds today are not growing up I wonder what polygon has to say about the newest game They go to YouTube and find a guy there that they trust and believe Which is why the only people unanimously pretty much that came out in my defense were youtubers because they know That they're the next rung of this evolution of the way we absorb and communicate and absorb information and have news Meanwhile these people to your point are writing clickbait trying to stay relevant, but no one really cares what they're saying Anyway, so they're in their death throes. This is a way for them to take shots at multiple people at the same time This is what they did a PewDiePie. This is what they did to other people in PewDiePie one was really egregious It was egregious but but like again a lot of that stuff was taken out of context Yes, and and a lot I don't mean PewDiePie was agreed. Oh, yeah. I mean the attacks on him Oh, yeah, it was terrible what Wall Street Journal did to him. This is just the sign of the times These are people fighting and I really feel this way and you might disagree But I feel like a lot of it is these people are fighting for their lives If I were if I were a person that was writing a little bit of journalists the journalists Yeah, yeah, like if I were I'm sorry to interrupt you if I were Right if I had written in the video game industry for 10 years, right? I wrote in the gaming industry for 14 years, but if I was a 10-year industry veteran and I had fewer than 10,000 Twitter followers and I'm writing for a site No one reads and I'm trying my hardest to stay relevant and to do my thing I'd be pretty mad too If I saw a guy that turns on his camera and speaks whatever he wants and gets the amount of views in 30 minutes That'll get the entire year. Why would you be mad because nothing to do with you? But what does it has a lot to do with you because there's only so much time and space for these people to absorb things And they'd rather famine mentality. They'd rather go to 350 million people in this country alone And there's many many more people all over the world The idea that anybody's views is somehow or another taking away from your views is just straight famine mentality There's plenty of eyes to go around and you're showing it right now with your your new project. Sure But I'm just like but I'm just saying like their their thought process sucks Yeah, and ostensibly it's it's it's actually adding to their destruction because people are looking at this Like the media for instance in political in the political landscape is dying Anyway, the decline is happening Wall Street Journal put up a piece not too long ago saying that per capita Viewership on television is actually starting to be outpaced by YouTube. So that's over now, right? so like now you and that's not on video online or video on demand that's just YouTube and So people are looking at the situation and actually precipitating it happening quicker because in order to stay relevant They lie or they raise headpieces I think we should talk about what happened with PewDiePie's most people like who the fuck is PewDiePie and what happened? Sure. Do you want me to explain? Yeah, please. Okay. So PewDiePie is is the biggest youtuber in the world He has 55 million subscribers and he's a millionaire Just to be clear. I've never I don't really know him very well I think I've had one or two communiques with him at some point, but I don't know him So I don't really have a horse in the race He lives in Europe. He lives in England. I think he's Swedish or something of that nature, but he lives in England And he has a massive YouTube following me and every video He does will have 10 12 15 million views and you know, you're on YouTube I'm on YouTube in a much lesser sense. That's a lot of views and he Pushed the boundaries in some ways and some tasteless ways As this is right and the thing that really caught on was that he was using this this app or this this this service called Fiverr which is this kind of task rabbit kind of thing where it's like you can pay people to do whatever you want and he paid Some of the things he did were otherwise but he paid these guys in some country to hold up these like death to all Jews signs or something like that as part of a joke and You know and it's something I think is somewhat tasteless But he's trying to make a point whatever point he was trying to make he was trying to make a point It was lost on a lot of people and this combined with some other imagery He had been using some like kind of fascist or Nazi imagery and some other things that have been going on over the months I'm sorry. Did you want it? Oh, I thought you were saying I'm sorry and So eventually the Wall Street Journal caught wind of this Wall Street Journal obviously a very prolific right of center but still pretty moderate newspaper and Basically went after him and tried to basically tried to destroy him and took a lot of things out of context and Force Disney's Disney owns a studio that Funds him and all these kinds of things and caused a lot of personal and economic destruction for this It seems like they intentionally took things out of context too and they distorted the actual intent of what he was trying to do especially with Telling people to not be Nazis He was like mocking people that were being Nazis and they used that to say this guy is pretending to be a Nazi Right. It was a completely dishonest hit piece Yeah The same vein as the Conde Nast hit is the same vein as the whole Kogan hit is this right? It's it's it's these people they you know the term punching up They want to punch up and they think they're punching up Wall Street Journal is punching up now on youtubers But really caused a lot of hilarious punching up on a youtuber. That's the way they look at it Isn't that hilarious? It is this guy's a youtuber. He's a guy by himself You're punching up to attack him because he's the king because he's the media elite. I mean, that's the media elite I mean, it's like an independent reporter attacking the you know, ABC News or something like that Exactly and and to me it was like it showed a lot of cowardice It showed a lot of half-cocked thinking on there on the Wall Street Journal's part I think that this wasn't gonna blow back on them and It showed a level and and I hate using this word because I don't think innately it's necessarily a bad thing because I think it drives You forward but there's a level of jealousy at play with a lot of these kinds of things happening What you were thinking about before when you were saying that someone who's struggling to get 10,000 views and a story They write is going to look at a guy like this that can do one video where he talks about farts and he makes You know his seven million views or something like that. Yeah, he makes 15 million a year Yeah, and they're mad and they don't understand it and I get that You know, I look at some people that are famous or some people that are you know Have a platform and I'm like, I don't get this but I'm not gonna like sit here and like rain on their parade That's there, right? They have an audience. That's totally fine. Maybe look at yourself of why you don't have an audience Maybe look at yourself and realize that if you've been doing this for so long and you're so proud of that Why isn't anyone listening to you? Could it be you you know instead of instead of looking around for people to assassinate? Which is what's basically happening here? Right? I just I find it so distasteful. I find it so destructive we're at the precipice of a very dangerous time because The the trust in institutions no matter where you are now is just lost and a lot of it has to do and that's what I was Saying with media Precipitating the fall by not telling the truth by not doing the right thing I think the media in terms of politics For instance is really Rebounding from the fact that they thought Clinton was gonna win so they thought they can get away with saying and doing anything For that means to an end yeah, the Donna Brazil thing for instance where she was feeding questions to the Clinton campaign. Yeah is so incredible So such a level of bias and systemic inherent bias They thought they were gonna get away with all of it now no one trust anyone So when I see all this stuff I don't know what's going on with Russia and Trump for all I know he could be a fucking man sure Ian candidate You know, but I don't believe a word they say, you know Like when I read this about Paul Manafort about Flynn about blah blah blah blah blah I don't know you lied about all this other shit. I have no idea what you're talking about, you know, I have to really do my Own research. I don't even know who to trust anymore They did that to themselves and they precipitated their own downfall more and more people are going on YouTube To listen to people like you to listen to people even like Alex Jones to listen to Dave Rubin to listen giant problem It is a problem because you know, so if you're listening to me Well you it's a problem because you need people in the trenches that you trust you need someone in the press room at the White House you need someone in the AP that is on the wire that is telling you the truth But what you can't even trust them anymore, right? That's a big problem That's when people go seek out alternative sources of news and information and entertainment and that's what's happening and that's why they're dying Yeah, well in many ways that you sure that big corporate model is ensuring their own demise Absolutely, and and it's it's the race for clicks. It's the race for money. It's the race for prominence It's the race for relevance and not honesty Yeah Not transparency and not a real objective sense of what the truth is and what the actual facts of a story are that's where journalism is a different thing now because it's now a Entertainment show it's an entertainment show that also has the news in it, but that's why the women are so hot That's why the women on Fox News are wearing these tiny little dresses and they have beautiful legs and heels on and they're talking about Important issues, but they're giving you a little bit of eye candy while they're doing it So transparent to when I see that kind of stuff. I'm like it was a very attractive woman Yeah, I'm sure she knows what she's talking about. But I know why that I know why she sits at the end of the table I like when they're aggressive to look Megan Kelly. She's attractive and she's aggressive. Yeah, she's smart. That's what makes her sexy Yeah, I'm talking about but uh, you know, yeah, so we're in this we're in this we're in this weird space You know, yeah, we're in this is just very bizarre space Do you feel like this is like an almost an adolescent period in human communication that we're going through this weird growth period Where where we have this incredible access to information and the ability to spread it like we have now with with social media and with YouTube And all these different things where anybody can kind of hop in and all of a sudden get a platform like this PewDiePie guy PewDiePie wasn't a Star it wasn't a politician. He wasn't an actor before this who's just a guy Yeah, and he connected with people and carved out this path for himself and pretty much anybody can kind of do that now I mean there's it's not easy. It's not if it was easy Everyone would do it, but it is not insurmountable and I wonder what the next stage is in in terms of the ability to share information if it's gonna change Pass where it's at now and get to some new level Yeah, I think I think you're right in the sense that the internet specifically had taken off so quickly the world wide web You know is only 24 years old the internet's way older but the way we communicate with each other now is so different than even use net in the 80s or These kind of University University communications that they had going on in the 70s where they were sharing things amongst each other You don't need gatekeepers anywhere. There are no gatekeepers You can go start a YouTube channel now find an audience gain thousands of subscribers make a lot of money and say what you want And that's scary to the traditional gatekeepers and they don't like it and they're gonna They're fighting against it is so transparent and it's so self-serving When I don't we need a media that we can trust But I don't think we need the media as it is right now either because the media we have right now is bloated dishonest Partisan politically and motivated all these things that don't really serve a purpose to educating and informing someone the days of Cronkite are gone