Joe Rogan - Cat Zingano's Struggle with Anti-depressants

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Cat Zingano is a UFC fighter.

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So anyway, MMA math is ridiculous. It doesn't work. And you might be the best example of how it doesn't work. But so you go to this, the Mayo Clinic puts you on antidepressants because you just feel like shit. I feel like shit and because of the different endocrine problems that I had, right? So I can't have any of the medications that'll help that. So I have to be more conservative with it. And one way they thought to do it is because my cortisol levels are really high. They're talking about, and I mean, granted, I have a lot of stress, especially like, you know, life hasn't been easy these past like, single mom, your husband passes away. You're in the toughest, probably the toughest sport on the planet. Trying to be the best at it too. So you're elite, you're in the top 10. So you're in this weird position where you never know when you're going to fire to who you're going to fire. There's a constant amount of stress. And it's not like you're making millions of dollars doing it either. No, well, and it's expediting healing for me. And I also have a kid going through what I'm going through. So it's not like I get to like split and cut corners and just, you know, it's like there's maintenance to be done at all times with that. So I go there, they tell me, you know, we could probably lower your quotas all levels if we could lower your stress levels. So we'll try antidepressants. And what does that make you feel like? Flat as fuck. And like, I didn't, can I say fuck on this? Where do you do that? Okay, I know, I just didn't know if I have a quota. No, no, no, no. Before I'm like a bad person, like do I get added to like, do I get added to a certain level? Zero restrictions, you can say whatever you want. Okay, so. Talk like there's no one listening. Got it. So yeah, they put me on. They made you feel flat. Flat, which like all that training camp getting ready for Juliana, I'm just like, I'm like, okay, it'll take off in the fight. Like I'll feel good in the fight. Like when they say go up. So like no adrenaline, no. No ups, no downs. No pissed off, like want to kill you, no nothing, you know. So not scared, but not happy? No, and I was like, why am I not nervous the way that I get nervous? Like I was okay, which usually like, especially two weeks out I have this like flush of emotions, you know, where I'm like fetal position in the corner, like what the fuck? And then once it's over, all I want to do is kill, you know, but like, and I didn't have that either. It kind of made me nervous because my other friend Barb Hanczeck, she's a new 25er, we would always like call each other and laugh at how dumb we were being at that point. Like, look at me, you know. But that was all gone with the, what shit did they put you on? What was this one? Oh my gosh. Zoloft, Paxil. Keep going. Prozac, what do they have? Do you know any, Jamie? Efexer. Efexer, I don't know if that one. Efexer and- Jamie's playing stupid over there. He's like, oh no. Crazy pills. He's like, everything. Twice a day. Just kidding, just kidding. Just tic tacs. Just tries them out. So they put you on this stuff and did they try different ones? No, because- Not a lot of time. There isn't, you know, and they're looking, I'm like, I need the side effects matter. Like these can't be ones that make me gain a bunch of weight. They can't make me like, I need to still be able to sleep. Like I have to be able to have like enough highs and lows to be able to function and learn and whatever. And so this is like the best they could have for me. So anyway, I fight that fight with Juliana. You know, I feel like the first round I came out how I wanted, you know, and then halfway through the second round, like it was just awful. Like she had my old coaches in her corner. You know what's weird about that fight is I could hear you and I could like, this is where the flat came in is like, I wasn't, I didn't feel like I was in the fight. Like I could see Herb Dean's feet and I could hear you talking about us. And I saw, like I could hear Juliana's coaches and it was breaking my heart that they were coaching against me because they were my Colorado gym and she went and trained with them. And I know she had trained with them previously. So I mean, before she had taken the fight, but to me it was like fucked up to here, you know. And it hurt me in a way like it's, I wish I could explain it better, but it was like, I heard them and I just wanted to go home. You know, I look at the clock and I'm like, can this just be over? I don't want to go back to Colorado. I want to move like, and I literally on this side of the cage, I had my past in Colorado. I had these coaches, I had the drama with that gym, like how everything went. And then on this side, it was like all new problems, like San Diego, Eric, and then we're good. Like there was a lot of training partners there. It was sunny, it was similar to Colorado, different, but in the right ways, you know. And it was like, I just wanted out. So did you run a fight, you were in San Diego training for that fight or no? Yep, I just flew out for it for the training camp. And while you flew out there, you were still taking the antidepressants. And did that fight convince you to stop taking them? Yeah, so after that fight, I went to, what did I do? I think I went to the, I was at the PI. I was working with Nevinsky and people on like what to do about that. I even talked to Gordon. UFC performances, it took you. Dr. Gordon. Mark Gordon. Yeah, to help me with all of that too, because he thought there was a more conservative way to help me with those issues as well. And so I was talking with him, I had him talk to them. They were all trying to figure out a way, but still there's like, there's no ways to even just naturally bring you up. Did you think about retiring? Yeah, and that's the thing is the center was really the place that was, is like, okay, I'm gonna go here. I've tried everything else. I'm gonna go here and if they can't fix me, then I'm gonna have to be done. How?