Joe Rogan - Candace Owens on Why Kanye Is Important "Jay-Z & Beyonce Are Traitors!"

Yeah, it's just it's so bad faster though. Yeah, yeah, you can't even understand what he's saying sometimes Yeah, like I can't do that. How do you do that? How do you do that? I can't do that and he's doing it sober He's not like some dudes who do that. They're all adderalled up. You know, he's on the natch. Yeah He does that man. I like I liked these kids in school I just be like, you know I was just the kid that was just like kind of like more chill and I don't need to like and sometimes he just goes Over stupid stuff. It's like but I do wonder like if he's learning anymore. That's the one thing like like Yeah, cuz I he doesn't like to have like it's like once he has an opinion Like I like to be like to have conversations and I like to be wrong about the conversation cuz I don't know everything I think that's kind of like why people love this podcast so much because you're open to learning anything Like you'll have people on this podcast. You're like, who's he having? You know because there's some there's always something that you can learn There's always something that you don't understand that you don't know if you have an open mind if you have an open mind Right and I think that in many ways and that like sometimes he's just not open to learning about certain things And I think somebody might know something about a culture beyond what he knows and it's just like nope that like the idea like it's just drives me crazy, but I think Ben is Really fucking smart and that's the problem. That's the problem. Exactly. He thinks other people stupid Yeah, yeah, I hated like I got so annoyed with like the Kanye West like Four seconds. He like writes an article saying Kanye West is just crazy. I'm like who did this? Yeah, and I wrote him an email I was just like dude like I understand that to you and the way that you've done your life This doesn't make sense right, but this is actually really important for black people to see the Kanye West thing It was the most important which thing was it him like, you know him tweeting out I love the way cancer But beyond that saying that he openly supported the president so I can see why Ben shuts something like that down initially because to him Like culture is not the way you talk about politics, right? Like because he's by the book But he has to understand that by the book is not the way people in the hood are being raised by the book It's not the way people in the projects are being raised these people have had their families destroyed and decimated by the welfare system Right the fathers aren't even at the homes, you know, the single motherhood rate jumped from 25 percent in 1965 to 74 percent today And so these kids turn to culture to father them They turned to Jay Z and Beyonce and hip-hop and Kanye and to tell them what's right and what's wrong So for so long because the left has had a stranglehold on culture. They've had a stranglehold on black America so the most significant thing that opened up this dialogue beyond the work that I was doing was this like simple tweet and this simple show of support from Kanye West and I was so frustrated that he had he had to like in that moment just write like dismiss him as crazy It's just like dude like just be willing to learn like, you know Just be willing to say like I don't understand why the hell this is the way that this is people want to talk about politics Right, but maybe there's something here and I always understood that culture was the most important vertical when Charlie and I first met and we sat Down I defined three. I don't know Charlie is Okay, so Charlie Kirk is like this 18 year old like we started turning point USA who I work for when he was 18 and He is like a savant they call him like Trump's boy wonder like he's a brilliant if you want to talk about like smart beyond Like it the smartest person I know is Charlie Kirk hands down and he's only 24 He didn't he didn't go to college. Just like I don't know just like just reading weird stuff when he was seven You know, I don't know like just like things that everyone's like, oh, yeah, I just read that Thomas soul He's like, yes, I read it when I was six, you know My child could you not say that could you be cool? but so when Charlie and I met and I like I told him like my plan to sort of help black American to wake them up because I Understood how we had fallen victim to this brainwash. There was what brainwash? The leftist dogma just this idea that because we're black we have to vote Democrat And anybody that is not a Democrat is racist and against helping us. That is like what so many black Americans believe I believed it. I believed it. You know what I mean? So and I'm a pretty smart girl, you know I've always been a very smart girl. I've always I've always been you know, I've excelled In in academics, right? So how did I fall victim to it the exact same system right these three verticals the first being the family the breakdown of the family the second one Being culture which then to me like growing up It was like Jay Z like Jay Z was God to me like I like would throw on like I was you know I went through a lot of stuff when I was a kid. I didn't have a great family You know, but I would throw on a Jay Z album and like whatever he said was like it was like going to church, you know And then and I can't stand him now but the third No, because he knows exactly what he's doing and he's a traitor but third vertical being education which was what a casual aside He's a traitor. Yeah, it's like like Beyonce Because he knows what's happening to black America and he's somebody that built his entire career off the backs of black America you know of being the guy who started in the hood and in in You know Queens and worked it, you know It was a drug deal and worked his way up and it became the idol for some people in black America And then he stands on stage and endorses Hillary Clinton He stands on stage and tells black America to put the same People in in the White House that locked up more black men than any present history of United States Bill Clinton Right the person that stands on the crime bill of 94 is Bill Clinton But because Jay Z is now focused on getting a piece of the pie the globalist piece of the pie He doesn't care about black America. That's that's my opinion So what you think that's what it was or do you think that maybe he thought that Donald Trump represented a lot of racist white people No, he didn't want that no Not even kind of not for a single second because he's very smart. Do you speak to him? No, I didn't speak to him I just I know okay It's there's a certain thing where like I just I know that Jason Beyonce betrayed the black community like there they are So you think they did it purposely for a financial gain? Yeah, I think yeah I think that they they were interested in having they want to be the people that control the world and they felt that Hillary Clinton like, you know, they were working with Obama very closely and Very clearly now we know that the Obama administration worked very hard to get Hillary Clinton to office and they wanted to stay in that group And so they supported Hillary Clinton who selected behind closed doors forget the American people the next president United States Yeah, so it's like did certainly by the DNC. Yeah 100% beyond that it was in bed with Obama, you know She was our Secretary of State and she she was doing deals behind closed doors and Jay-Z and Beyonce were a part of that click Right. So they were a part of the celebrated celebrities that were allowed to go to the White House and they'd wear the ties and everybody Would be taking photo ops, right? But it was a cool thing to be friends with Obama, right? Like nobody wants to go to the White House and and like celebrities it's hard to get celebrities to go with Trump There's so much controversy has to do it your career Roseanne Part of left and right part of what's happening with Roseanne is not just that she made a racist tweet She's no she didn't know was racist. She supports Trump and then she her character supports Correct and people were looking for something to hate her over and she handed it to them, you know