Joe Rogan & Candace Owens on Race in America

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Candace Owens is the communication director for Turning Point USA, which is an American conservative nonprofit organization whose stated mission is "to educate students about true free market values."

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Looked at human beings from 3000 years ago to human beings of today. We're moving in a General direction of a much more positive culture right racism is does to me I want to me it does racism is negative to both agree right? Can't be depleted, but don't you think it can be shunned out of society slowly, but surely if people realize there's repercussions No But that then you're operating from a fear that doesn't mean that you're not racist because you're afraid to say it no But people realize that you know it hurts people's feelings it causes all sorts of issues And no maybe no human beings especially when they're in and I've learned this whole time when they're in a spot where they're fundamentally unhappy It's very easy for them to you know lash out it is and so if you find someone who's just miserable Right who doesn't you know have I don't know the career the girl whatever it is that person is much more likely to Say something That's vitriolic, and that's just that's the human condition like you're not happy so you lash out at someone else I agree with you, but don't you think that? Human beings in general are less racist today certainly less racist publicly in America than 1950. Oh my gosh Yes, no questions asked so 68 years ago. Yeah, if we go back 68 years ago the world has changed for the better Like 100% in terms of like the social progress that we've made especially in America Do you think it's possible that 68 years from now? We could at least come very close to eradicating racism um that's a very good question So if you're talking about just America yes, well, let's just go with America because it's just it's right up Because I don't know what the fuck's going on China. Yeah, you know wherever I don't know there's some places where racism is just deep yes Yeah, that's why I say like racism Because they change it up is in those say Americans are racist towards Muslims right when you say that you're gonna do the Muslim the Muslim ban from certain countries, and that's also considered like racism and not just like you know National security right so everything sort of becomes racism so the problem with racism is nobody knows it means anymore Everything's racist you can you you could the Starbucks situation which to me was not racist was racist is that racism? The Starbucks we have to find a race it you don't think that was racist no So you think if those were white dudes hanging out in Starbucks Not buying anything just sitting down mind their own business that they would have got fucked with with the same exact energy Let's let's let's play in the picture so first off. I live in Philadelphia. I'm not kidding I wonder if sometimes when I'm there. I'm like I wonder if any white people live here like like Philadelphia is like it's 44% black not just excluding Hispanic 44% black it's unbelievable everyone who works in my build everyone's black. It's like the weirdest thing I'm like this is a very black city right it's a bizarre city to be racist Outrate racist in like you're dealing with black people all day So you you remove that and then you think to me and I've seen this happen tons of times is it possible Right that this guy was just on like a power like I power trips happen I've seen it happen at the most bizarre places I'm like alright like I at the airport the other day like this woman gave me absolute hell at T.S I mean it was like I came recapted it was just absolute hell I could have walked away and said she was racist and she randomly selected my bag 22 times to go through and made me go Through and miss my flight right or she was having a bad day, and she was power tripping You know and then people have these little positions It's like that that movie where they go door man You know like and they have these little positions like the manager of Starbucks And and you're having an off day and these two kids that could have easily said I'll buy a cookie right like common decency by the Way even for me if I go use a bathroom at Starbucks I'll just freakin buy a cookie or a little like juice box or water just something that makes me feel alright It's a little more civilized if I just buy something even though I'm just here to use the bathroom like so I'm both you got a pee real bad There's a line you go and then I'll probably buy something afterwards I do that There's a natural thing that like it's a little more because of these guys you could just be a homeless Outrage culture it's an outrage culture insane like my cousin who's half max gonna have black had to go through this training And she works for Starbucks, so it's like it's to me. It's just insane It's like is it possible that this guy was power tripping these kids were being like you know that could have just bought something and it Could have been resolved, but you have two people that are being stubborn and and taking it to as far as possible You know talk about the call monitor like you know these are the rules And it just got too far well that is perspective that is possible, but it's also possible that they were racially selected Yeah, that someone was racist. Yeah, I looked at them. They said these guys are black. Yeah We don't want them sitting around here not buying anything Could you remind I don't know weren't they just waiting for their friend to the whole thing didn't make it So how long were they sitting there for cuz I want to say 45 minutes? But that's like until the cops got there like they probably weren't Me how long does it take to get the cops to come and filly right? It's like I'm just like if you were sitting there. I feel it. No. I don't know I've never called the cops and feeling, but I do know that like Philly is it's just a very it's a very black city Yeah, it's a very black city. You know I was there with Dave Ruben and Jordan Peterson Peterson yeah, you know I opened for them, and it's just it's a little bit for them You just stand up. What are you doing? Yeah? I should do stand up. I'd be good at it. You think I'm funny come out tonight Yeah, I'll get you up. I'll do it. Oh wait. No. I can't cuz I have a I'm going to Wyoming right after this Yeah, you have any ideas of what you would talk about if you went on stage I? Don't know I would be really funny though. I'm like randomly really funny randomly. I'm good at noises Not when people pay no I would be really good like I'm I think really good voices like really good like I'm I need to believe that most people think they would do really good at stand up, but it's hard shit. It's hard Yeah, cuz they get nervous. Yeah, I could see that it's gonna be just like I'm not funny anymore It seems I probably would be like a drinker if I was on stage I feel like I would be like that like stereotypical comedian that just gets completely sloshed and goes out since to try to loosen up the Yeah, yeah, I think it's a really hard thing to try it to be funny in front of like a sold-out room I think it's important to be objective And I think it's important to to look at something for what it really is and I think it's highly possible That that Starbucks thing was racist. I see I think it's just Just as yeah, it's just as but because of our culture it's here we are it's got it's got to be racist It's like yes, the chances. I'm just telling you like so a lot of black people that come in I work from the Starbucks. I'm writing a book. I work from Starbucks all over Philadelphia That's like what I do right and it's just there's I don't know if there's any white people in Philadelphia I'm constantly trying to I did a show there recently What area of town where you wasn't in the Tower Theatre? That's where we are Inside your thing, but they probably commuted. Oh the fuck. Yeah, they did. Yeah Yeah, it's all black people Yeah, it's a bizarre place. Thank you. Yeah, it's rough It's really rough and that's what people don't understand I'm like dude like it's a weird place to come to if you're racist It's just a way it's like really hard to be racist in Philadelphia because everyone's black like it's like we went to the movies once And we saw Planet of the Apes actually ironically in a really black neighborhood and then we were it was I was there for the UFC and it was me and again my friend Tommy from Connecticut and we were looking for somewhere to go and we went to this super black neighborhood and it was a fucking blast He's right. It was hilarious because I never I never go to all black movie theaters But they were yelling shit the screen I mean it became like it was there was the audience that was entertaining and there was a movie it entertained There's one scene in the movie where you know the Planet of the Apes got what was the guy's name? Caesar got mad is like oh you fucked up Barbecued we were high out of our mind so the whole thing was like extra hilarious black culture This is the thing it's in so funny because so much of what I do is inspired by this is just like people like this I guess presentation of black people in the media It actually gets me mad because to me and I could be biased I think black people are like the most like funny like we're so funny so endearing like when I'm around my cousins like I do there's not a better time that I can have when I'm around my family. We're not easily offended, right? We're constantly funny. We try to make fun of other people like There's no one meaner black people are portrayed like victims like everything upsets us Like we're just we feel so oppressed and I'm like this is not like the the black community that I grew up in in my family And it's also not the the black community that's like who we celebrate like I was watching was it Chris Rock stand up bigger and blacker I watched that like from 1990-4-clasic like it is like the stuff that he said he could never say today Just like it like it like it because that is black culture like he went there on every single race every single culture made fun Of everybody and it was beautiful. It was perfection. It was a sold-out Apollo theater He comes out in the first thing he says is like racial was like oh white people in the back today You know what? I mean everyone gets up and starts cheering and they start making fun of black people about things that we need to fix Right he's using like it's he's being funny But he's also saying stuff that's real talking about that baby mama culture and the difference between like the white community starts He's talking about school shootings It had just like maybe was Columbine that just happened and he starts talking about that and nobody was sensitive Nobody nobody in the audience was going the NRA