Joe Rogan & Brian Moses Have a 17 Minute Discussion About Cannibalism

There was some people that got sick and died from the plague really recently, like within the last couple of months, because they had eaten a raw marmot liver. A marmot is like some kind of a rodent. And they had killed this marmot and ate its liver and- And this is here in the States? Mm-hmm. Fuck. Mongolia. It was in Mongolia? I thought it was in America. Mongolia's Mongolian couple died. Right, but they didn't die doing it in America? Thank God. I just have to make sure that they didn't come here and get it, but this says- I thought the story was they died over here. And they had come over here and tried to reenact some sort of a ritualistic meal. Oh. Where they eat this raw liver. Mm-hmm. And they ate this raw liver and got the plagues on this. Does it say where it happened? I think it was there. Okay. It's like certain countries in Africa, too, that it's like you can eat human, right? Like cannibal- Legally? Mm-hmm. I don't know if it's legal. I know there was a story I read on it or something like that about these places in Africa. Yeah, you can eat human. This is ultimate stoner talk. It really is. Sorry about that. I know, no, I read about it. I'd be reading. Well, do you remember the- I don't know if you ever saw this. Yeah. There's a vice piece on Liberia. I think that might have been it, then. Yeah. I remember when they traveled in Liberia where they were saying this guy, his name was General Butt Naked. And General Butt Naked, he had become a preacher later in life. Yeah. Preacher Butt Naked. Yeah, when he was younger, he would go to war totally naked and he would shoot people. Oh, that was in Beast of No Nation. Was it? Yeah. You see Beast of No Nation? No, it wasn't. Okay. It's with Idris Elba. He plays like an EDM or a, what's that thing called, Coney, whatever it was. Anyway, he's got these child soldiers, basically. And yeah, they just go from tribe to tribe and just kill it. And they just genocide. Mm. He's got a bunch of tribes. How about that? Whatever happened with that? Yeah. Coney. Remember that? I think he's still like a warlord. But you remember how it was like this gigantic movement? Mm-hmm. And it was this big thing and everybody was talking about it. And then this one guy in San Diego that was a part of starting it, he wound up being naked, wandering around the street, masturbating in front of people in some crazy show. Yeah, that made him like, I'm not credible. Did I make that up? He was doing something along those lines, right? He basically had a schizophrenic breaker, a psychotic breaker. I'm not a doctor. Something went wrong. Something went wrong. He blew a fuse. But that's the cat, yeah. They called him Tripod and that. But I think you're talking about the same guy. When he went to war, like as a child soldier, yeah, he was butt naked. I think he's a different guy because this guy, his name literally was General Butt Naked, but I think there's a bunch of them that did that. But anyway, on the Liberia show, he said that he busted these street cart guys selling human meat and he said he knew because he knew what meat tastes like because he had eaten it. What the fuck? So he knew that it was human meat. He knew it wasn't pork. He knew it wasn't beef. Liberia is crazy by the way. Bro. I mean, like, they have slaves out there, right? Just imagine the gall of going to the cops and saying, that man is selling human meat. Well, how do you know? Well, because I've eaten it. I mean, fuck. Fuck. Would you eat human? It depends on what you have to do to stay alive, right? Right. Like, where are you? What's that? Like, if you were in that movie alive when they're scooping the dead dude's butt with a broken spoon. Yeah, like Donner Pass or something like that. Yeah. What are you going to do? But then the... I'm saying like as a foodie, like, you know, you go to like a restaurant. As a foodie? That's what I'm saying. Like, if they cook it up nice, you know what I mean? You get some Tabasco. You've probably eaten a dude's foot. You got foot soup. Or dick soup. Fuck. A dick burger. Well, there was one guy... There was one guy's story. There was one guy that I had read about where online he requested that someone kill him and eat him. Damn. That's his death wish. Yeah. And I think it was in Germany. Of course. So they met together and got together with a guy. The guy cut his dick off and they cooked it. And they ate it together. He ate part of his dick. And then the guy wound up killing him. And... Wait, wait, wait. So this guy was alive and they cooked and ate his dick? Mm-hmm. They did it together. They did it together. That's so German. It was this guy's idea. He requested it. I'm like, Craigslist or one of those things. Let's cut my dick off and then eat it. And then we're gonna eat it and then you're gonna kill me. He wanted the guy to eat him too. And I think the guy did eat some of them. But there was a question as to whether or not... A person's a lot to eat. How do you prosecute that? What do you do? Like, if someone said, I want you to cut my dick off and you cut their dick off. I want to cook it and eat it. And then you both cook it and eat it. I want you to kill me and eat me. Okay. And then the guy kills him and eats him. Like, what is that? It's not regular murder. I think I'm reading the same story. Is that manslaughter? And they filmed it. Oh, they filmed it? Yeah. Yeah, they filmed it. Oh, but like, Kim cutting his dick off and then eating it? Yeah, I think they filmed the whole murder. What's the threshold? So it's like a snuff film. Yeah. Yeah. But the guy requested it. That's gnarly. Yeah. Pull it up so we can read it. This one's from 2003. That's why I'm not sure if it's the same one. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. Yep. I owed myself to you unless you dine from my live body. Wow. Yeah, he posted a personal ad saying, seeking well-built man, 18 to 30 years old for slaughter. Whoa. For slaughter. He wrote, I offer myself to you and will let you dine from my live body, not butchery, dining, whoever really all caps wants to do it will need a real all caps victim all caps. Mm. Exclamation point. These two started swapping increasingly explicit emails and on March 9th, 2001, Braden took a day off work never to return. He sold everything he owned, including his treasured sports car, wiped his computer hard drive and bought a one-way ticket to Castle near Frankfurt. Braden met him off the train. They bought painkillers at a chemical shop and headed back to the house. At first, Brandon's got cold feet and wanted to return to Berlin. Muse said, but he reconsidered, swallowed painkillers and medication to make him sleepy, he said. Now, do it. Muse set the video camera rolling and went to work with a kitchen knife. Wow, dude. We went into the bedroom. How do you say his name? The bathroom. The bathroom. How do you say his name? Muse. Muse told the police, brain is lay in the bath so the blood could flow away and Brandon slowly began to lose consciousness. Muse passed the time reading a Star Trek novel. When the Berliner finally passed out, Muse cut his throat. Now, he was consumed over a number of months. The 30 kilos of flesh he had put in his freezer. Muse went on the internet in search of a new victim. Oh, so he became like a taste for this. Frustrated that he could only find people looking for cannibal role plays, Muse began boasting about Brandis, someone from the chat room and formed the federal police who swooped in on Armand Muse house in December, 10th last, surprising the coy cannibal and startling the unsuspecting neighbors. Whoa. Now, that's that sociopath psychopath thing you were saying earlier. Yeah. Because are you a psychopath or are you a sociopath at that point? I mean, because I do not feel empathy even for a guy who's telling you to kill you, but you're just looking to kill somebody because you have a taste for blood now. It became a thing, right? Yeah. I bet whatever he did during the day was boring. And I bet that as psychotic as it is, was exciting. And then he became chasing that feeling. Yeah. What is it, Jamie? What's the matter? Oh, he's got it. I don't know why did that pop up. I found a website that had seven or something interesting facts about this guy. This is the first one. He sauteed and ate the penis with his victim. Yeah. That was the story, right? Yeah. Yeah. They cooked it together. Sauteed it? Wow. Look at that image. That's not really how it went down. No, it's not or something there. Yeah, that's enough though. It's an atheist, yeah. Does it say like what, how they sauteed the penis? It's too chewy for them, either of them to enjoy. So they proceeded to fry it up with some of his flesh and fat and a bit of garlic. Oh, dude. That's hard. I mean, that's not hard. I guess it's like you're worried about the end, right? And then you just say, I'm going to take control. I'm going to bring the end on. And here it is. You got, we're eating my dick. This is over. This is not. We're eating my dick. Yeah. This is not going to last. Eat my dick. And then he goes into the tub to die out from warm water with his dick hole bleeding out. Just really insane stuff. I mean, that's really, yeah, I mean, to live through that, by the way. Well, you got to think that there's just such a wide range of crazy people. Right. And there's some crazy people like that that want to be eaten and some crazy people want to eat you. And if they find each other. Now, that's the beauty of the Internet. You can do that now. You couldn't do that back in, you know, the Donner era or even the 90s with them Brazilian soccer team made each other. How long do you think that guy could have kept it together? If he just ate that one dude before he could find another guy that will let him eat him. And if that was his thing, would he just suppress himself? Right exactly. We go. Would he go Dexter? And he got me. And that's what I'm saying. Like bad people. Yeah. Oh, that's fucking terrifying. I mean, I mean, just to just to go there, kill the guy, read a Star Trek novel, by the way. Why the guy's bleeding out in the tub. Yeah. After you ate his dick. That's some psycho. That's shit. Picking dick out of your teeth. I'll share with you guys their pictures of this online. Oh no, no, no, don't do this. I don't need this. What I don't want to see. Yeah. I was like, don't do this. Whatever you're going to do. Don't do this. It's a jury's having to seek therapy after they watch the video. Oh yeah. I bet it did. Of course they did. Of course they did. You imagine being a juror and they force you to watch that video. Yeah. I don't want to see anybody yet. I don't want to see you eat a dick. And you're the only ones watching it. Right. It's not like they're broadcasting on television. I mean, on Fear Factor, you guys did it like a... It was always like the big thing of eating somebody's penis. Right? Or something's penis. Basically every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bull penis. One time they had to eat dicks. Yeah, they had to eat bull dick, deer dick, pig dick, or something like that. I forget what the dick was. But it was a bunch of different kinds of dicks. No human dick. It's just something so strange. I had a bit about it that never in my life did I think that I'd be standing in front of a girl with a plate full of animal dicks going, you can do it. Hang in there. I mean, fuck. Keep going. Keep going. Use your... Just control your mind. Control your mind. Coaching them through it. Nice. They're eating pig penis. Ridiculous. Pig dick. But it's like you can't... I don't know what to think on that, Jeremy. You can't kill yourself. It's not legal to kill yourself. It's illegal. Suicide's illegal. And it's not legal to eat. It's not legal to kill yourself. It's illegal. It's illegal. Suicide's illegal. Suicide's illegal. And it's not legal to eat people. And even if someone tells you to kill them and eat them, you're not allowed to. Even in Germany. Like, even like... That's assisted suicide, right? Technically? Yeah, but it's cannibalism too. Like, we don't allow that. No. Mostly. Humanity doesn't allow that, right? Mostly. Yeah. There's some tribes. There's a few tribes that still practice cannibalism. Right. They're particularly... I guess I was reading... I'm just not interested in like... You're curious. Like what a human tastes like. Well, it's probably not good. Right? Gross. Yeah, we eat a lot of trash. Cannibalism. There's no laws against cannibalism per se, but in most if not all states, there have been enacted laws that indirectly make it impossible to legally obtain and consume the body matter. What? That's when you put it that way, yeah. It doesn't sound too appetizing. If you can get it. The body matter somehow. Wait a minute. Wasn't there a show on CNN where one of their guys, they wanted him to eat charred flesh like he was examining different religions. Do you remember something along these lines? It was like some outrageous thing. Was that Gupta? Sanjay or the... No, I don't think it was Sanjay Gupta. It was someone else. But there was... He visited all of these different religions and people that lived their lives in different weird ways and wonderful... I know the show you're talking about. Yeah. I don't remember that episode. God damn it. You're right. It wasn't Gupta. It was another correspondent. He eventually got fired for CNN for saying something about Trump, which is hilarious. Yeah. As you're pointing out. Yeah. It's an Aslan. It sparks outrage after eating human brain in new show. It takes like charcoal. See the problem with that too, by eating a human brain is that, I mean maybe these cults or these tribes or whatever he's involved with does do that. If the brain has prions, prions are what gives you mad cow disease. Oh really? Yeah. So you can get sick from that and die? Yuxfeld... What is that name of that? Jacob Cruxfeld disease. And it's basically mad cow disease. And you get it from prions, get it from brain tissue. They survive like thousands of degrees. Other way around. Cruxfeld-Yukub disease. That's it. It's a rare degenerative fatal brain disorder and it affects about one person. So some people get it without cannibalism, but it also does happen. One person every million worldwide in the United States are about 350 cases per year. Crazy. So it must be like really charred though. It doesn't matter, I don't think. Really? Yeah, I don't think it does. He's still alive. Yeah. He's not gonna have had the prions of someone who has a disease. But if that person did, that's why it... It has to be the temperature that it has to be cooked at. It's supposed to be insane. I think prions can survive like more than a thousand degrees for a long period of time. That's one of the fears of mad cow disease. You really are not gonna be able to cook it well enough to keep that shit from getting in your bloodstream. Fuck. Yeah. See, Google, how long... Jamie or Google, I'm off the chain today. You got extra Google. A lot of flesh talk today. Yeah. I was looking up stuff about that. What temperature do prions survive in? Because I think it's more than a thousand degrees and they can still survive. Which I remember reading that going, oh, this is terrible. Mad cow disease, zombies. Zombies, yeah, exactly. I mean, you hunt your food, so you're not worried about that. Yeah, but you should be worried because there's a thing called chronic wasting disease. And chronic wasting disease is essentially a form of mad cow disease, like very similar type of degenerative disease that affects deer, that's affecting an increasing number of them. They're spreading across the country. Now, it hasn't made the jump to humans yet. But it could. So, I don't wanna worry you here, but... You can't hunt deer no more, man. Prions cannot be destroyed by boiling, alcohol, acid, standard autoclaving methods, or radiation. Or radiation. That's what I'm saying. So, they're like roaches. They'll survive everything. Well, you know what they are? They're God's poison. When God's like, enough. Like no fire, no flames, no ice, no water. You ain't fixing this. This is coming in hot. Yeah, and this is... You can't. Prions are forever. Wow. These proteins are in the hard to kill Hall of Fame and may be more common than we realize. See, this is what I'm talking about. So these things, this is what affects people when they get mad cow disease. And this is also what it affects, cannibals. Cruxfeld yucca, or yucca cruxfeld? You got it the first way. Crux... Cruxfeld yucca. CJD. Okay. Cruxfeld yucca disease. But it affects cannibals. They found out that cannibals in New Zealand. New Guinea. Crackels in New Guinea exhibited the same sort of symptoms as people with cruxfeld yucca disease. Google that, J. Yeah, don't fucking eat people. Cannibals. Cannibals that get cruxfeld yucca disease. Those poor cannibals. Well, they're eating brain matter. That's what it is. Yeah, just eat the flesh. Fry the flesh. Just eat the booty. Just eat the booty. Just eat the booty. Just eat the pork butt. They evolved their resistance to it. Oh my god, they're getting it so much. Oh my god, they're so crazy. Wow. Good for them. The practice of cannibalism in one pop out New Guinea tribe led to the spread of a fatal brain disease called Kuru that caused a devastating epidemic in the group. But now some members of the tribe carry a gene that appears to protect against Kuru as well as other so-called prion diseases such as Mad Cow. So they evolved. They evolved that generation. Wow. They're like a super, they're like a super bug. Fucking life finds a way, man.