Joe Rogan & Brendan Schaub Debate Who Conor McGregor Should Fight Next

Hello freak bitches. You know Tony cut a bunch of weight, he figured it out. Yeah but Tony was like three pounds over like a couple days out. Yeah but like two weeks before Tony goes down, he has it down to, he's a soldier dude, I mean. But then, but also if you're Dana you need more weight classes because it's fucking your business up. Because Khabib, I mean, we can't put any money on him. You get, Connor's never gonna fight him, he's not fighting Tony next. Tony don't want to fight him. Like dude you can't even make weight. He's gonna fight Barbosa. Maybe. Who's gonna fight Barbosa? Khabib. Is it? Khabib? That's a great fight. Apparently he's got, according to Cormier, he's got a new nutritionist and the nutritionist has got him on point. Well it's a discipline issue. He's gotta keep the tiramisu away. Yeah, tiramisu, I don't give a fuck if, you know. It's definitely a discipline issue but it's also a psychological issue. You think Tony's gonna fight Connor? You think that's going down? He has to. I think Connor made that post. Connor made that post to Tony. Recently? Yeah, he made an Instagram post. Talking about the GTA post? Yeah, Grand Theft Auto with him holding a gun, driving a boat. Because Tony did it first. Because Tony did it first, right? Well Tony was talking shit about him. He called him McNugget and all this different shit. Yeah but Tony posted... He made a piece of shit. But didn't Tony originally post the GTA meme and then Connor responded with his or vice versa? I think vice versa. I think Connor went out, Tony. Look, Connor's smart. He realizes that Tony's an unusual eccentric character. Yeah. He wrote Tony. Connor is an unusual eccentric character. Connor's an unusual eccentric character. Tony's an unusual eccentric character too. And Tony, look, Tony has the longest win streak in the UFC's 155 pound division. He is the interim champion and he's the logical fighter. He's won 10 in a row for God's sakes and the toughest division in the world. Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker no doubt. He's the legitimate champion. Here's the problem with that. And I 100% think Connor has to fight Tony next. If you want to be taken serious in your legacy, you have to fight Tony. But if you're Connor's business decision makers, you're going, look at Tony's draw for pay-per-view though. It's going to be tough for us to sell this thing. Well, yes but not with Connor. Connor sells like fucking crazy. And Connor versus Tony sells because Tony's a legit threat. Connor versus my mom sells. Right. But Connor versus a legit threat sells. Like Connor fighting someone sells. But Connor versus a legit threat is where it gets interesting. Tony is the big fight. That's the big fight. I agree. Oh, I agree. Oh, Koolie, are you kidding? He's arrived. Everybody, he's a character. Yeah, but. Eddie, I'm with you. But the pay-per-view numbers were fucking awful. They were terrible. Well, well, you know. Don't get me wrong, it takes two to tango. It does. Right. Not for Connor. Kevin Lee. Kevin Lee isn't the biggest name on the planet. Everybody respects him in the game because they know he's a beast. He's coming up fucking people up, choking people out left and right. They know he's a beast, but the world really didn't know him yet. Correct. You know what I mean? The world doesn't know either of them. And there was a lot of controversy. They know Tony now. The world knows Tony. There was a lot of controversy. It depends. Kevin's wheel over Kiazaa. The world knows Tony. The whole world doesn't know Tony, but the MMA world knows Tony for sure. But the regular people are the people that you need to get a hold of in order to really buy pay-per-views. Because the world knows Nate. And that's where the businessmen, the WMEs go. Well, let's do Nate, which if you look at any poll, I did a poll. Arijuana did a poll. MMA Junkie. Everyone goes, no, Tony first in the fucking fight. You're talking hundreds of thousands of votes. People go, Tony first in the next fight. But WME is going, yeah, but the money's over here. Yeah. But the Nate fight's not going anywhere. And how long are you going to let Connor play this kind of weird make-up-a-fight game? Well, here's the thing with Nate. Nate made four million bucks over two fights, and he don't give a fuck. He's like, pay me. You got to pay me. But the UFC's going to pay for what? You've lost four or you lost seven. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but he beat Connor. And in the second fight, he arguably had a draw with Connor. But he lost. He lost a decision based on a couple of people's opinion. But I think if you went online... That's all that matters, Joe. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't. Public opinion means a lot. If you went online and you asked people who you think won that fight, I bet you would get very close to 50-50 Nate versus Connor. Doesn't matter. Wayne lost the match. It does matter in terms of how you sell the fight. It doesn't because to sell the fight, if Nate would have won if those three people and had Nate winning, you don't have a third fight. You could absolutely have a third fight after he beat Eddie Alvarez. No, not twice in a row. Sure. After he beat Eddie Alvarez, you absolutely could have a third fight. You absolutely, especially if Nate beat him twice. Not true. Not true, especially if he beat him by the same decision. If he had the exact same fight and Nate won that decision, it was entirely feasible, right? The second fight was so close, you could easily have given it to Nate. If Nate wins that second fight... He's beat him twice in a row. You do a third time. You don't think that after Connor knocks out Eddie Alvarez the way he did, if Connor fought Alvarez, knocked him out, you don't think you could sell a third fight because it was so goddamn razor-close? God, 0-2, I guess. Here, you're looking at the numbers. You see, the problem with decisions is, these decisions are solidified by three people that oftentimes don't even have a fucking background in MMA. You get decisions all the time. That doesn't mean a lot to me. What means a lot to me is how close the fight was. That's what means a lot to me. If a guy goes 0-2, it's gonna be tough to tell me on Trilogy. What do I do, Jamie? The scorecard's from that fight. Yeah, 47-47, 48-47, 48-47. That's as fucking close as it gets. It's a majority decision. One guy scored a draw. Glen Trowbridge. I do not remember what I thought, whether I thought it was... went to Connor or went to... I don't think I watched it again. I'm pretty sure I only watched that fight when I was... It was a close fucking fight. Very close. Super razor-close. We've seen decisions, like, in fights that weren't as close, go to the other guy. But no one got robbed in that fight. I wouldn't say Nate got robbed. I would say that it's a controversial decision because, anytime you have a majority decision, there's some controversy to it. But my point is, you could easily sell that fight, even if Connor... even if Nate had won. I think there's other fights to sell. They're so close. Bigger fights. If, you know... What is a bigger fight? If Nate fought Connor, you don't... you think there's a bigger fight than that? If you're saying... Hold on, Joe. What are you saying? I'm trying to fight you. So you're saying if Nate beat him twice, the third fight's gonna be a big fight right now? You see, this beat-em stuff, it's the same exact fight. Okay, the same exact fight takes place. Goddamn, man. When they're losing matters. The same exact fight. The same exact fight. Those three random fucking people, they decide, you know what? This 47-47, I'm gonna go 48-47 Diaz. And then the 48-47 goes, you know what? I think it's the opposite. I think it's 48-47, Nate. It's a make-believe world. It's not a make-believe world, because it's entirely feasible that that could happen. But that never happened. And Tony has a belt. Jesus Christ, are you listening to me? It's entirely possible that could have happened in an exact same fight. It's still the same fight. The fight was very close. Those guys were rivals, man. And Nate choked him the fuck out in the first fight. Correct. That's always gonna be there. So even if Connor, like, got real close, Connor's such a superstar that if he lost a close decision in the second fight, you could absolutely make an argument for a third fight, especially with one or two spectacular performances like the Eddie Alvarez fight. So if we're going off that, we can do any fight. Let's do Jose Aldo. You could say, oh, that was a freak accident, 13 seconds. Let's run that pack. That's a huge draw. I think you could run that pack. I would watch that. For sure. And then let's run Eddie Alvarez back if you beat Justin Dachey. No, but the thing about Eddie Alvarez was he beat the shit out of Eddie Alvarez and then knocked him out. Eddie was never in that fight. Aldo just got caught quit. Let's bring Chas Menas back because he took it on six-day notice. It's not a bad idea, but Chas's fight went 45. So where do we start? I don't see what's so difficult to balance. You know what I'm saying, Joe? What are you saying? Like, why? I don't understand what you're saying. I'm just saying in the Nate fight, it could have went either way, but it didn't happen. So you can make – Connor and any fight's gonna be big. But winning and losing does matter, then, to the general population, it does matter. It does matter, but when the fights are the exact same, you could easily see the decision go one way or the other. Like, you know there's fights that you've watched where you say, you know what? The guy got the decision, but, man, I don't agree with it. You just said that with Mousasi and Schramenco. For sure. Yeah, it happens all the time. That's part of the game. I look at that fight. If I look at a fight like that, I absolutely want to see that fight again. I don't care if one guy got a decision from three people that I don't agree with. That's fine. And I guess we're kind of saying the same thing. I'm saying any fight Connor does is gonna be big. Any fight Connor does is gonna be big. But I think we both agree that the big money is in the Nate Diaz fight. Correct. But it's not the smart fight to do. The big money would be in the Nate Diaz fight, even if Nate beat him in the second fight. I really think that. I don't think so. I disagree with you there. I do because I think Connor's a giant superstar. He's not gonna be less of a superstar, and I think Nate would be a bigger star. In fact, I think it would be worth more money if Nate beat him in the second fight. I think Tony and Connor is about as big as a fight you can get in the lightweight division because you trained Tony in UFC history. In UFC history, Tony against Connor. And that's like Duran versus Leonard. I don't think it's the biggest fight, but I think it's what the purists like. It's up there. It's what the purists like. It's among the best lightweight unification. Connor's coming off of the Floyd Mayweather. Oh, dude. People know. Let's say if Nate... First of all, Eddie, before you rip my head off, I agree. Tony and Connor 100% have to fight next. Tony's a star. He's a star in our world. In the big world, he's not. He's a star in our world. Now he is. In the big world, he is now. But let's say Nate... Well, hold on a second. You think you can go to the gas station right now and go, hey, man, who's Tony Ferguson? Depends on the guy who's there. If he has a UFC shirt, he'll know. Pretty much. If he has a WWE shirt, probably not. What if he has an affliction shirt on? It all depends. I think if you go to the average person and ask them who Nate Diaz is, way more people are going to know who he is than Tony. Now hear me out, Joe. What? Or hear me out, Eddie. Floyd Mayweather's still a bigger name than... They could do a rematch and have another big fight, bigger than Kukui. But I'm talking about for the UFC, fuck everyone outside the UFC. UFC has millions and millions of fans. Well, Nate's a bigger name. All over the world, all over the world, he has the interim belt. He has to fight him. No, you're right. Why is there a discussion? He has to fight him. Is he right in terms of like as a purist? Correct. But Joe, what if Nate took another fight? As your average UFC fan. I'm right as your average UFC fan. What if Nate fought Barbosa or Khabib and beat them? Think how big that Nate fight would be with Conor then. That's a big if, though. The problem with that is Nate's lost to a large ask. We're talking about an if world right now. We're talking about Conor lost. But we're not. But we're not right now because we're talking about what pieces are in play right now. Like what do we have right in front of us? So we're going to do right now. So if you're doing it right now, Nate. Well, if you're going by what the fans have voted, Tony would be the fight that the purists want. But this is the fans that listen to Ariel Hawani or you. These are hardcore people. In order to make money, you have to get those people and then you got to get the people who know it peripherally. Well, then Nate, the polymalonage is the next fight. No, they don't even know Pauli Malinato. How dare you? They don't until he fights unless Conor fights him in boxing. That's what I'm saying. Boxing. Yeah. But I mean, well, but if taken all that out of context, Nate is the bigger fight no matter how we paint this picture. Yeah. The fight you should do is Tony, though. Do you think that Pauli Malinage versus Conor is a bigger fight? Got to get Tony New Sunglasses. Do you think that Pauli Malinage versus Conor is a bigger fight in boxing than Nate versus Conor is in MMA? I think whatever Conor does is big. Whatever Conor does is big. It doesn't matter. But I think Nate versus Conor is bigger in MMA than Pauli versus Conor is in boxing. Probably. Yeah. Yeah, because Pauli is not like a Floyd Mayweather where he's going to get all those boxing fans. Pauli was good and he's a big name. He's on Showtime. But he's not Floyd Mayweather. He's on MMA with a big. Yeah. It's just a different thing. You have the whole Nate freaking fan base. You have the Conor fan base. Then you have WWE behind that with the hype machine. Yeah. And they've severely lightened that. But. The sanctions on weed. Yeah. But if you're WWE, you're going, what are we going to make the most? I'm sorry. Not if you're WWE. If you're Conor's business planners, you're going, how do we make the most money? It's a McGregor promotion in boxing. We're going to make more money doing that, fighting Pauli. Right. Yeah. And we're going to make more money. We're going to make more money. We're going to make more money. That's true. But if Conor loses two in a row in boxing, that severely diminishes his star in MMA. What's back to MMA and by the way, they'll strip him of his belt. If he fights another, we got to strip him. They don't shit to him. The USC. Who's going to do it? He does whatever he wants. You might find it heavyweight if you want to do that. I can do shit to me. He's too much of a draw. But Tony or Nate is a dangerous fight. Either fight is a Tony. Tony and Nate are more dangerous than fighting Polly. What is that? Nate did his own. Nate's is on GTA post. What does it say? It doesn't say anything. There's no comment. I don't think it's... Monument? What is that? No, that's just the account. Yeah. Oh, just that. Hehehehe. Hehehehe. Hehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. Hehehehehehe. 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