Joe Rogan breaks down who would win Gorilla vs Grizzly Bear

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John Dudley

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John Dudley is a pro archer and host of “Nock On TV.” Check out his podcast “Nock On".

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Hello freak bitches I don't know but I feel like remember when you told me that story about the monkey that you had that you had when you were on fear factor Oh yeah the monkey peeped my ass. That when you held that little thing you thought this thing's made of wood that that's what I feel when I get you up on my shoulder I'm like damn this thing's made of wood that's hilarious. You start beep Dude I was telling Jamie I think I've told you this story I've probably told it to everybody I've met that I have a little baby champ on the set of news radio like way back in the day. It was supposed to be in some stunt. Did I tell you this? I probably said it before. This little motherfucker was on my back and he hit me a couple times and I was stunned I was like oh no this is not what I thought it was I thought it was like a little person. Like oh this little person thinks he's a badass. Let me just calm him down No he got on top of me. Just hit me a couple times on the back and I was like what in the fuck? I just was thinking it immediately I started doing the math in my head and thinking what it would be like to be confronted by a full grown chimp Okay well that's my argument with the silverback versus grizzly You said grizzly. Because grizzly's are even more and more of the fucking badass than a chimp Grizzly? A grizzly can't like there's no way a chimp can out run a grizzly There's no way. Not a chance in hell. What's a silver? I don't know if that's true What is a silverback full speed? Have you seen one of those things coming through the bamboo? Grizzly can out run a silverback. Or whatever they come through? I know it. I feel confident I think chimps are faster than gorillas and I think a grizzly can out run a chimp Jimmy's live for me. I think there's no way the gorilla's getting fucked. He's getting doomed I'm telling you right now. Big ass interior grizzly I know what your hands feel like when they shake mine. So I would be, I guess I'm not like a grizzly but You're a giant dude. A silverback would crumple you like an empty pop can. It would even be like He wouldn't even feel you. He would go through you like whipped cream. 25 miles an hour top speed Why does it say it feels like 25? It feels like 25. Similar animal. Actual speed's 34 but it feels like 25 I don't understand what that means. This is from someone riding its back. Get to a different website Is that really what this is? Oh my god, I love the name Wapiti. Where'd that come from? Do you know where that came from? For elk? Speedofanimals.com A Wapiti? Yeah, what is it? Where's that word come from? That's what an elk is dude. I but I never. Wapiti. It's actually a Wapiti. Who called it the Wapiti? What is that? Where's that name come from? I've heard it. It's a cool name. Wapiti Wednesday is a hashtag. Cam uses it a lot. Powerful Wapiti Wednesday You can't use the same speed though. Is that a chimp? I said a silverback. What? I don't want to know what a chimp is. What did you think a chimp is faster? Get that chimp off there. Don't you think a chimp is faster than a gorilla? Give me a silverback. Okay. Have you seen a silverback come out of the freaking the jungle? They had fast. They had fast. Ah, I see. Told you. So that's what I'm thinking. So it's speed over strength. I think it's just like an archery argument. Yeah, maybe. I think the bear gets a heavy arrow, slower speed, fast arrow. But there's not much of a difference in the speed. It's real close and a grizzly bear is so much bigger moving so much more mass around. Like if a big grizzly is 500 pounds. A silverback, I'm pretty sure. I mean a big grizzly, interior grizzly. What is a big one? 900? Is that really good? Not a mountain grizzly. You can look it up. They're the more aggressive ones right? Let's just say six to 700. And the really big ones are the coastal ones, right? Yeah. Which they call brown bears for some reason. Brown bears. Why do they call them that? Because it's the same animal. It's a different species. Is it? Yes. Yeah. They don't want to eat or anything. They're bigger. They're bigger. They're just a totally different bear. Yeah. One looks like a Volkswagen with hair and one looks more like a Ford truck. It's one of those other things where the one that has the scarier name is like not the biggest one, which is weird. Like brown bear sounds like, oh, he's so cuddly. And you see those buses on Kodiak Island. Yeah. They sell Coke. Yeah. Klondike bars. Yeah. Oh, that's right. What would you do for a Klondike bar? Fucking polar bears your buddy. Hey, I'm your buddy. I live in a place where there's no vegetables. It's a conspiracy theory. Polar bears brought that up. They literally made those to make themselves look cuddly so humans would be stupid enough to walk up to them. Do you think it's like a nature trick? Like nature made them cool to look at so we don't mind as much that they're murderers. I would argue Disney. Fucking Disney. Right? Like that Bambi movie. So a silverback is slower by 10 miles an hour. Is there anyone that has that? Girls fucked. I told you. No, but is there any strength of a silverback versus a grizzly? I don't think it's comparable. I say this saying I really respect grizzly bears and brown bears because you know that. Well, I think that's the concerns of a lot of grizzly bears and brown bears that were listening. Yeah, they were. They're pumped. I think that they're all dangerous and ferocious and I'm thinking silverback versus the the grizz. You think you would win? Yeah, I mean people who listen to this podcast needs to put it in the post. We need to know what people want to know. I wouldn't want to fight a 38 pound rat. No kidding. I'd be fucking terrified to fight a 38 pound rat. So the idea of 38. I just can't put a number because that's a fucking giant rat man. Yeah, but you should have said 30 40. I know. But like how much is the house? You can get it. What's a house cat way like 10 pounds? No way. That's that's Garfield weighs 10. Okay, like seven, seven pounds. Something like that. I would think someone will sign. Okay, now now make it bigger. I keep it like a what what size is it because unmanageable first off. Let's if you're not wearing welding gloves a 10 pound in shape house cat. You're not fucking like Garfield. You're talking like. I don't know. Let's talk about a Conor McGregor Garfield at coming in at 10. Like a real good tiger cat. Like one of them, you know, those those ones like real common house cat ones that look like a picture this pick if you grabbed a 10 pound mountain lion. You can control that. There's no way. My neighbor. My neighbor is 38 pound. My neighbor's good buddy mine and he he saw a mountain lion. And he saw a mountain lion when he was walking his dogs get these little cutie dogs. He's walking his little cutie dogs and he saw this fucking thing. It's on its tail and picked it up. Pick the dogs up and ran back to his house and then got on a website. Got on a website and found out that they attract this animal and that it had a collar on it and the tracked it and it got hit by a car on the five and he's explaining like how the whole the whole thing went down. I was like, whoa, like that thing you were walking your dogs and this big ass cat is like 120 pound plus cat. So the actual cat that had a collar. He knew that's the one he encountered. Yeah. Yeah. He saw he saw the collar and then he went on the website and you can track because he he'd found out that this cat had died and when he found out the cat died, he went and oh, the sound of whiskey. Are you good over? Yeah, I'm good, dude. Trust me. You're yet. He's talking a lot of stupid shit. I know you haven't even touched that. Oh, I definitely have. How dare you? You're one of those guys? Bro, you're not even drunk as me, bro. Quit bullying me. Sorry. It's my instinct. Well, we were just what what the fuck was I just getting to? I had a brat. Oh yeah. Among other things. So a silverback is essentially like a super a super primate, right? The most super, super prime. Yes. But a bear is one of the most super, super freak predator animal freak out things. Like if a bear was little like a nine pound bear. Like the size of a nine pound rat was trying to kill you. You would be freaking the fuck out. If it was running and you're like a little tiny bear, you'd be fucking terrified. Now think of a giant one and realize how you are totally defenseless. And I don't think it's going to be that much difference for a gorilla. Literally think of a silverback gorilla with the way they're built and they swing around. I think if he stood on the chest of a grizzly could grab its paws and literally rip its arms out and beat it with it. Wow. That's King Kong was a good movie. I'll agree with you there. I enjoyed it as much as the next lad. I'm not even thinking of Kong, but I believe that. I don't think that's correct. I don't think they're that strong. The thumb does does give an advantage though, right? It could grab. Yes. Wait. It's a little smarter. Yes. Move around a little. Yeah. Jamie. Great. But he just the bear is way stronger. Way stronger. Way stronger. It could smack it once. No, we need to. Well, I've seen that. I think a bear is. I've seen a grown mountain grizzly hit a moose and can it. Yeah, you told me that. That I've seen. You saw it with your own eyes, right? Is there any solid information of strength of a silverback? There's not. There's just a lot of people that have argued this on the internet for the last five to ten years. We get dangerously close to this argument. Seriously, why don't they put Thor's hammer on the ground and like put a, put a taco in it or something to where a grizzly has to try to grab it and pull it off and have a sensor versus the silverback. That would, well, the grizzly definitely can't grab as hard because it doesn't have thumbs like we talked about, but I think. Yeah, but that's relative to a beating. Right. How many fighters have a big ass and a lot of like leg power. Right. Crocaw versus someone that's just sheer gorilla up top. Let's do go there. I just wonder how strong a gorilla really is in comparison to which essentially like a giant dog. I just think he's going to get fucked up. Are you crazy? You think he's going to get fucked up? Silverback is equivalent to a giant dog. No, no, no, no. A bear is. What I'm saying is a bear, a bear is like essentially like a giant wild dog. Possibly, but well. Why would I call it silverback?