Joe Rogan and Glenn Villeneuve on Pointless Suppressor Bans

But... How many bullets do I carry? How much ammunition? How many bullets? So Trisha comes up for a four-day date after we'd communicated for three months. Tell her to bring some bullets? She was... She had tons of ammo in her apartment down in Boston. Really? Oh, yeah. She had... She's a wild lady. She had guns and ammo and everything. But she came up to visit and after, you know, a day or so together, I decided that I want to take her out to the camp, you know. I said, hey, got any plans for tomorrow? Want to go to the Brooks Range? So I wanted to fly her up there so she could see the place to know what she was getting into, right? Mm-hmm. And we were packing and I like... I think I threw in like 10 rounds of ammo. We're just gonna go for the day. She had to be back at work, you know. She just came for a long weekend. And she's like, what? That's all you're taking? 10 rounds? I'm like, we're not even going hunting. This is just like in case... In case a bear happens to attack us. I mean, 10 rounds? That's a lot. Like I go months without shooting 10 rounds of ammunition. So she convinced me to take a full box, I think. But I don't carry a lot of ammunition. No. I think I started carrying a little more nice. I think usually when I go moose hunting, I'll throw in a box. I'll have 20 rounds of me, but I never use... I mean, I've never used anywhere near that much. It would seem to me that you would need... Do you have a tool or anything to sight in your rifle just in case something goes wrong with the sight? Talking about a target? Yeah, I got a target. Okay. You have a target. Yeah. But there's tools, you know, where you don't have to fire off a round. Oh, no. I don't... Like a bore sighting. Yeah, it's like a bore sighting. It's like a laser and it has it set up. Like literally, you can have your rifle zeroed in at 100 in like two shots. I usually get it zeroed in, you know, three or six or something. But it never goes far out. Yeah, it don't make too long. 200 yards. I have my target at 200 yards. I can... Right in front of my camp, I shoot across the lake there when it's dead calm. And I hardly ever have to adjust that scope. I mean, I'm so happy with that. That's the only rifle I have ever killed a large animal with in my life. Wow. What's the caliber? 30 out of 6. I bought that gun for $550 in 2003 and I never needed another center fire rifle. That's a classic rifle. 30 out of 6. Ruger. There it is. M77... What is it called? M77 Mark? And E2. What kind of a sight are you using on that? It's got a 2 to 7 power scope. The difference is that's an older picture. There was nobody up there with me. I actually took that picture myself, but that was before I got my suppressor. Oh, you got a suppressor. Oh, I'm all about suppressors. Yeah, I wish they were illegal in California. They're not. No, they're not. I mean, I think they're worried that people would be sniping people or something like that. It's kind of stupid. It's ignorant because for hunting purposes, like one of the biggest problems, like I have a friend of mine, my friend Cody, his ears blown out because he was working as a guide and someone fired off a shot right near his ear. Now he has to wear hearing aids. That's all it takes is one shot. If you're close to the muzzle, that's why I got a suppressor. I really think this is a very important thing. So many people are damaging their hearing without even realizing it. Yep. Yep. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It's a lot of guys did it when they're young. A lot of my friends, they go with a suppressor. That's actually a different gun, but that one I've never killed anything with, but that is the suppressor. The problem is when you're hunting, it's not practical to use ear protection. Right. And if you hunt regularly, that adds up. Over time it adds up, but you shoot a rifle, that's 160 decibels. Why are they making a law that you have to damage your hearing to go hunting? Right. Why are they making a law where you have to cover your ears with something? The reason being is because they're worried about urban situations. They're worried about people shooting at people and you're not hearing anything. You do hear something though. Yeah, you hear a pew. Oh no, you hear a lot more than that. Have you ever shot a suppressor? Yeah, it's like a crack. Well, it depends on what you're shooting, but assuming it's hypersonic, supersonic, it's still loud. Like a 30-out-6 without a suppressor is about 160 decibels. That's deafening. You put a suppressor on it, it's like 130. It knocks it down about 30 decibels, more or less. It's still very loud. Are there different levels of suppressor? I bought the best suppressor I could get. If you want to make a gun shoot like in the movies, silent like a little pop, you have to shoot subsonic. That's not practical for hunting. Oh. Now I'm questioning whether or not I've actually used a suppressor. Well, I feel like I did at one point in time, someone somewhere let me shoot their rifle that had a suppressor on it, but it might be a false memory now. You can put subsonic ammo in there. Yeah, I've shot subsonic 22s. 30-out-6, you can load it subsonic. You can buy 308 ammunition subsonic and it's very quiet, but it's going so slow that it's not effective to hunt moose or caribou with. Right. Yeah. But yeah, they're still loud. Pretty loud. I have a muzzle brake on my 7 millimeter. That's really loud. Boom. It's a cannon. Yeah. But I actually met a person once who was just about deaf. He was like stone deaf from one shotgun blast. He was in a canoe and somebody shot kind of in a position where the muzzle was right next to his ear. Yeah. Yeah, that's how it always is. It's always someone shooting near you, just blows your eardrums out. It's terrible. Yeah, but so in California, you cannot have suppressors. But again, I think that's what they're worried about. And I think it's just, there's a lot of ignorance. It's a lot of people that just don't know enough about firearms that are making the regulations. But I think that would be the worry that people would be shooting and you wouldn't be able to hear it. Well, I think that there might be other ways to deal with that. For hunting, I think it's super reasonable to be able to have something where you don't have to have ear protection on it all the time and you can make it look just less disturbing for all the people also that are in the mountains. If you're on public land and you're hunting deer and you hear a boom, like over the side of the hill, it's kind of gross. Even in countries that have more regulations on firearms, they're places where you can use suppressors from what I've heard. I mean, I haven't researched extensively, but I think in Britain, even people have suppressors and in New Zealand, Australia, different places. Yeah. Yeah. I do 99.9% of my hunting with a bow and arrow. That's awesome. But it's not, I'm not doing it because I need, you know, it's not like a subsistence thing. I don't need it. Absolutely. Just, I love archery. I love hunting archery too, because you have to get close. Yeah. You know, that's where it's at. That's what I love doing is getting close. Like some guys will brag about, oh, I shot this moose 600 yards away. I always like to get close. Yeah. It's just more interesting, isn't it? Because you learn more about the animal. Yeah. It's more intense too. It's also, it requires more skill. I feel like, I mean, this sounds fucked up, but I feel like the animal has more of a chance. Like if I'm inside, you know, 60 yards shooting at an animal, that animal has way more chance to get the fuck away from me, way more chance for me to blow it, to step on a twig or to catch my wind, or it makes it more difficult.