Joe Rogan - ADHD is Over-diagnosed

You know, that was an issue apparently when Reagan, when Reagan was in office, they lowered the standard of what's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and they just let a bunch of dudes just wander through the streets. That actually wasn't, it was a little bit more complicated than that. It was that the state doesn't have a right to keep you against your will if you don't want to be, right? So, so there had to be very specific criteria for that. So, you know, this whole thing with gun control, like we need it to help mental health issue. Well, there's, if you talk to the psychiatrist, I'll be like, look dude, the criteria for getting to for saying and getting somebody essentially classified as a danger to society and like a real threat is very steep. It's hard to do. Yeah. You can't do that because somebody talks to themselves. You can't do it because they're hearing voices. Well the FBI went to visit that kid two years ago. The kid who shot up the school in Florida and they decided he wasn't a threat, but he might not have been a threat two years ago. People saying, oh, you know, they visited him two years ago. They're incompetent. No, he might be a different person now. You have to realize that like people get way worse. Like we've all known people that we knew at one point in time in life, then you don't see him for six years and then you see him and you're like, whoa, well that's cause people evolve and sometimes they evolve and sometimes they don't. Sometimes they recede. Sometimes it gets ugly. So didn't you go crazy? Aren't you talking about how, cause 20% of boys in this fucking country are diagnosed with ADHD? 20%? Yes, misdiagnosed. Of course, because you have a doctor who spends 10 minutes with you, who's not an expert on ADHD. It could be a thousand other things. I retweeted it. It could just be a boy. It was on Rhonda Patrick posted up to study. And then we're joking them. ADHD was something that was not the one that was created. See if Google this too. Sorry. ADHD was the one that was created by the advertising agency. What a surprise. No way. There's been several conditions that were literally invented by advertising agencies in order to promote a cure. So it's a tension deficit, hyperactivity disorder. Yeah. Look, I don't know how much of that is a real disease. Maybe some of it is. Maybe I'm not, I'm obviously not an expert. Maybe some of it is a kid whose brain works different. All right. Let me tell you something, man. My dog might have ADHD or whatever the fuck it is. I go to see him and he goes crazy. He's out of his fucking mind because he thinks we're going running. He's running around in circles. He's hopping up and down. He bolts back and forth into the backyard. He's like a maniac. I can't control him. You know what the solution for that is? I take him running. I don't lock him in a room and then drug him. You know what I was really doing with little kids. You know what I was really focused? You know what I wasn't focused? Algebra. You know what I was really focused? If somebody started talking about fighting and how to throw a right hand. Just think about what I'm saying with my dog. I mean, there's really something to that. Like that dog wanted to go run. And if I forced him to sit into a room, he would go crazy and bark and he wouldn't want to do that. That's how kids are. Exactly. It's the same goddamn thing. There it is. The drugging of the American boy. But what was the tweet, Jamie? Is this an Esquire article? What did the tweet say? One in five boys will be diagnosed with ADHD by the time they make it to high school. To date, only one significant study has looked at ADHD misdiagnosis and found 20 to 25% of boys were misdiagnosed. And this was before ADHD was as common as it is now. So they're saying it's a real issue. I know quite a few people that are drugging their kids. I think that's outrageous. My next door neighbor, they put their fucking kid on Ritalin. There was nothing wrong with this kid. I talk to that kid all the time. It's fucked up. It doesn't have things to do with it. The kid just had too much energy. The kid just had too much energy and they didn't want to deal with it. They weren't paying attention to them. They worked all day and then the kid's bouncing off the walls and no one wants to take care of the kid. And so they put them on Ritalin. Dude, it's happening everywhere. It's happening all across America. It has very bad side effects, some of these drugs. Look at this. 6.4 million children between the ages of four and 17 have been diagnosed with ADHD by high school. Nearly 20% of all boys will have been diagnosed with ADHD, a 37% increase since 2003. My son is a classic example of a kid who doesn't like to sit still in rough houses. He's a boy. Google the origin of ADHD. Schools have no time for it. Of course. They have no time for boy energy. No. You're condemned because it's aggressive. You're asking a boy to not be a boy. He's being told that his hands are hot lava and he can't use his hands. That's healthy. Oh my God. What kind of liberal school are you taking your fucking kid to? Public school. Public school. That's what happens. That's awful. This is what we're dealing with. Yeah. In the 1980s, ADHD was first mentioned in 1902. British pediatrician, so it must be a wrong one, a different one, described an abnormal defect of moral control in children. He found that some affected children could not control behavior the way a typical child would, but they were still intelligent. Maybe it was restless legs and drone. Was that it? Didn't you tell me? I feel like that one might have been, but I don't know. Who was the, sorry, who was the guest? Do you remember the guest? It was a woman who was telling us all about this. I'm a medical expert. Was it Kelly Brogan? It might have been. Might have been Kelly Brogan, Dr. Kelly Brogan. But didn't you say, aren't there studies about school shooters and a lot of them were on SSRIs and stuff? Yes. Mass shooters, not just school shooters, but like people who shoot up. Even the Vegas guy. The Vegas guy was on anti-anxiety medication. Wow. Yeah. That stuff and that's also, Chris Cornell was on anti-anxiety medication. There's a lot of people who are on psych drugs who lose their fucking minds because psych drugs are not universal, right? Like there's no thing, like here's a perfect example. Say if you have, there's a solution that makes alcohol 91 octane, right? And you add something to that. You can add some additives and it'll spike it up and you could try to find the right mixture. You're just fucking gasoline, right? You're throwing things in there and trying to mix it up. You don't know exactly what the right thing is. That's how they're doing your brain when they're doing these things. That's why they say try this one. There's not like, okay, you have one cup of flour, you need two eggs and one tablespoon of sugar. No, no, no, no, no. There's no specific recipe and what the fuck does feel good mean? The other thing that they're not taking into account is that you know, you might be depressed for a good reason. In other words, if you made me do a job I hated and I wasn't allowed to work out or I didn't know how to eat or a thousand things that make me feel good, because I have to self-regulate. Yes. I'm 51 and I still have to self-regulate because otherwise I'll go crazy. If I didn't know how to do those things, I would probably be depressed. Now you're going to give me drugs. Well, that's not going to help me because what I'm doing, my behavior is what it is. For sure. That's what I think. You've got to recognize that that kid, your son who has that energy, that's a gift. What you're doing is you're making him squander that gift by sitting him down in a fucking chair and he wants to go crazy. That kid is supposed to be like my dog, running around all day. My dog is a year old, that's seven. He's a seven year old dog basically, in dog years and he's like a seven year old kid. He's running around, he's going fucking crazy, but that's because he wants to run. But once he runs, he's fine. Dog is the best. Yes. He's a baby too. If your kid was involved in something where they emphasized physical movement and then taught things in between workouts, taught things in between ... Play a game outside. Play a little dodge ball, play a little soccer, play a little basketball. Then after you wear yourself out, a little come sit down, we're going to teach you about math. Teach him about math and then you're going to show him this is leverage. We're all going to pick things up. Do you think you can pick it up? Like, let him now pick it up with leverage. Oh, you see, you understand? You could teach kids in a very physical way instead of forcing them to sit down. Who the fuck wants to sit down? Hard ass chair where you feel other people's gum on the top of your leg. It sucks. It sucks. You're sitting there waiting for the fucking class to be over, stuck in some room. Let him get their energies out. Let him move around. Did I ever tell you that my acting teacher who looked at me on time is the greatest and he goes, I don't have seen ... He goes, you know what we got with you? Got a little self esteem problem. You think of yourself as a second banana. I was like, what? He goes, yeah, you got to start believing in yourself more. He goes, you got to start thinking of yourself as a first banana. Did he say this when he was in his underwear? He did. I was wearing black lace on it. He goes, put these black lace undies on. There you go. I'm going to pierce your nipples. What's that? Why do you smell like cologne? This is weird. He says that to me and I'm a young actor and I'm fucked up over it. I'm like, I got to get better. I got to get a higher self esteem. So I say to my buddies, kind of a group of guys, one of my buddies older and wiser and I said, man, I was told I have low self esteem. I heard a voice in the back over there that goes, thank God. I go, huh? You really think you'd be this funny if you fucking liked yourself, bro? You think you'd be a fucking actor if you liked yourself? Go fuck yourself. That guy's an asshole. Keep hating yourself. It's the best part of you. Maybe that's how that guy tanks men. Fuck, I know. I was like, you're right. I liked it. The whole point, the whole thing that drives me is the fact that I've never been satisfied with myself and I'm never going to lose that. If you make me really happy with myself, I'm not so sure it's a good thing.