Joe Praises Ciryl Gane's Performance Against Derrick Lewis

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Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman is a scientist and researcher in the fields of artificial intelligence and autonomous vehicles and host of "The Lex Fridman Podcast." www.lexfridman.com

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There's a... Occasionally you'll see a fighter that does something very artistic and striking that sort of elevates the standard. Did you see the Derek Lewis, Cyril Gahn fight? No. You need to see that. There's a knockout that Derek Lewis got a knockout, right? No. Cyril Gahn beat the shit out of him. Oh shit. He shut him out. He shut him out. Like it was a shutout for, I think, I think he stopped him in the third. But I mean Cyril Gahn, who's 6'5", 247 pounds, moves like a 170 pounder. It's crazy. He's bouncing like Wonderboy. Like bouncing like this. The entire fight. Bouncing, throwing feints. Like completely changed the standard of heavyweight striking. And I'm not exaggerating. I watched it three times. I watched it today, in fact. I watched it in the gym today while I was working out. Is he better than in terms of movement? He's like the best moving heavyweight. There's no question he is the best moving heavyweight I've ever seen. No question. The best moving. It doesn't mean that, like, this is the way he fights. Look at how he, like, every time Derek Lewis goes to set up to move towards him, Cyril Gahn is nowhere to be found. He lit Derek Lewis up, man. And every time Derek Lewis comes to him, like look at that jab. I mean, his movement in terms of closing the distance is spectacular. Look at that front leg front kick to the body. And I was severely impressed. I mean, he had beaten a lot of really good guys. Like he beat Jarsinho Rosenstryke. He beat Junio Dos Santos, whose best days are behind him. But, you know, he's beaten some very, very good fighters. But to watch the way he beat Derek Lewis, who's a legit one punch knockout threat. And the technical acumen that he showed, the skill, the technique, the footwork, the movement, the understanding of distance, the ability to control everything that happened inside the Octagon was spectacular. That's art. It changed my opinion of how a fight with him and Francis Ngana would go down. At first, my thought is that Francis Ngana has the nuclear option with everybody. He has such fucking power. So does Derek Lewis. So does Derek Lewis. But Francis Ngana, who... He has the hydrogen bomb. Derek Lewis is the atomic bomb. Well, they both have crazy one punch power. But when you watch Cyril Gahn, you go, man, how the fuck does anybody... It's like Francis has excellent technique. Francis has ridiculous power. But he doesn't have the movement that Gahn has. The question is, can Francis deal with the movement and maybe threaten him in a way that Derek Lewis didn't figure out how to? And that's what makes the fight so interesting. But the way that guy moves is something special, man. I mean, you only saw little highlights over there, but I've watched it pretty carefully in the three times that I watched it. I can't think of a single heavyweight that I've ever seen move like that. And there's no flaws in his clinch game. He understands how to avoid the takedown. He understands pummeling. He understands distance and where he's safe, where he's not safe, and what to look for when he's pulling out of the clinch to not get hit. It's really amazing, man. He's on a fucking real high level, and he's undefeated. So I think he's 9-0 now or 10-0. So he's going to get a title shot? Well, he's the interim heavyweight champion now. Oh, that was for the heavyweight champion. Which is weird, right? Ingano just won the fucking title. He's not injured. It's just like the UFC and Ingano where it's some sort of a weird impasse. So they decided to make an interim title, which brings up all sorts of ethical discussions about what is an interim title. When is it – if the organization can just decide, oh, the negotiations aren't going so well, we're just going to have an interim title. How many months after – when did he fight Steepay? When did Francis Ingano fight Steepay? That's 2020. Was it? I think so. It was definitely during the pandemic because it was at the – November or something like that. It was at the APEC Center. March 27th. March 27th. Of 2021? Yes. Yeah. So – It feels like way longer ago. Five months ago. Yeah, five – okay, five is as long. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. You know, like how much time do you give a guy before, you know, he defends his title? The difference in boxing is so different. Like boxers go the long stretch. And boxers enter into negotiations and negotiate – like Caleb Plant and Canelo Alvarez, they've been dancing back and forth as to whether or not they're supposed to fight. And the negotiations fall apart and they come back together again. And now they're supposedly in negotiations again for November. You know, boxing is so different. Watch the entire episode for free only on Spotify.