Jocko Willink on What Went Down When He Rolled with John Dudley

I have to at least bring this up a little bit. To clarify a little bit what I did to John Dudley on the jiu-jitsu mats. You broke his neck! You broke his fucking neck! See me what you did. Here's the only part that you're missing. Missing a little bit, right? So I'm giving him, his wife, like a jiu-jitsu private. So you broke his neck in front of his wife. And he's there. Little dud was there. This is getting worse. He broke his neck in front of his wife and his son. So I'm just completely, you know, I'm chilling and like hey this is this, this is that. And I'm not even doing it. Like this is that we, in one weekend Andy, John and me, we did archery, which I had never done before. Then we did jiu-jitsu, which John had never done before. And then we went on the wind tunnel, which John had never done before. Just, you know, because Andy's like a sky god, parachuting, blah blah blah. And so we did those three things. It was kind of like a cool weekend. I mean that's kind of an epic weekend, really. Let's be honest. So it's jiu-jitsu time. So I'm like okay cool. So I'm going over hey this is the guard, this is the mount. I'm going over all the basic stuff. I'm just giving the basic overall kind of concepts. So I get done with that, you know. And I'm done. Like I'm done. I'm just done. I'm like okay great, this is a good introduction. And then Dudley is like well let's go a little bit. And I'm like. That was the wrong language. I would have pulled him aside. Come here. So he's like let's go a little bit. And even that, you know what, I'm totally cool with that. Of course he wasn't mean and he wasn't thinking he was going to be mean. He wants experience. Yeah I shouldn't have even said let's go a little bit. He was like hey can we try it. You know something like that. Just being cool. And I'm like absolutely man. No problem. So I lay down on the ground. And I'm like. He says what should I do. I go you know just attack me. So I lay down on my back. I'm like just attack me. And guess what he did. He freaking attacked me. He like came at me. And Dudley's a big strong athletic guy. He's six, what is he six five? At least. Yeah so he grabs me. He grabs me. And I'm chilling. You know I'm just like okay cool. He comes at me. And I think I grab me. And so I kind of replace guard. And then I sweep him. And so I'm mounted. And all this is just pretty chill. And I put in a Ezekiel choke right. Which I have a little. Noogie. Yeah Noogie Ezekiel choke. I have a little good technique for doing it but no big deal. So I put in the Ezekiel choke. This is the thing that I really wish I should have explained more because we hadn't rolled. I wasn't like hey when you start to feel like you got to you got to tap out right. He knew to tap out but I kind of figured everyone knows how to tap out. So I put the choke in on him right. Well he doesn't know what to do. So he he's grabbing me and he's pulling. He's squeezing me. So he's on the bottom. I'm mounted. I've got the Ezekiel choke in. And in order to defend himself and his own mind he's squeezing me into him. Which the way I do my Ezekiel choke it hurts. I mean it compresses the choke even more. And so what are you doing specifically. Basically I put my hand I make a fist and I put my fist in my sternum and then I grab the forearm here and then arch my shoulder. So there's the neck right here. It closes it right. So it's putting the fist into the fist into right. It's a it's a trach. It's an air choke. It's gnarly. And so I'm just doing this and you can see that hole and you shrug. But as I'm doing this he's panicking and pulling me into him. And he only did it for a second. And then he and then he taps out. And I was like yeah you know. I wasn't I was just like oh you know and then he taps. And then the rest of the stories. I guess I didn't know a lot about the rest of this. I didn't know any of the rest of the story. Because he didn't want to feel like a baby. Yeah fractured like his hyoid bone and then it built calcium up around it. So he calls up Andy one day and he goes dude I think I got throat cancer. Is there something growing in my throat. And he goes the doctor gets an x-ray and he's like hey did you do something to your neck because there's a there's a hairline fracture that's not now calcium deposit around it. And he's like oh I know what happened. So I guess in my defense. Why didn't you just get him in like a head and arm choke or something? It wasn't that it wasn't like a big deal. It wasn't it wasn't crazy. It wasn't crazy. It was just normal. Like if if you grab somebody that showed up here is like hey you know can you roll with me you'd be like oh cool and you'd put him in a kind of whatever presented itself. Maybe you don't mock him. Maybe you'd do a computer problem is when you get used to doing certain types of chokes and then you're doing it to someone who doesn't especially that where you've got a fist. Yeah. And I this is I guess this is the only thing. Make no mistake about it. Even though I was just chilling. He was not. He was just going level seven berserker mode on me. He's such a good athlete you know. The other thing about people that have never done jujitsu when they're doing it with someone who's a black belt is they probably feel like they can just kind of go crazy and you'll just absorb it and deal with it. And so they just try it. Let's see what happens when I go crazy. So now he holds this over my head. You know he broke his neck. Yeah. I know. I know. One day I'm like I'm like we're up in Montana. I said hey man. He's like he says like he was at my house. He's all thanks for having us over. I go bro. You know you taught me how to do this. You brought me up here. You take me hunting like you're doing all this awesome stuff man. You know you're the man dude. I really appreciate it. He goes yeah. And you know what you did for me. I'm like what? He goes broke my neck. It's awful bro. It's all good now though right. Oh yeah. So not bothering him anymore. Oh I don't know about that. I thought you meant it's all good between us. It's all good between us. You just sent me a new bow. We're freaking fired up. I think every time he swallows and thinks about you. No he coughs. Oh no. He coughs. Hopefully I mean I haven't talked to him about it. I don't like to bring it up a lot. But so there's something in there that's fucking with his throat. Something in there is making him cough. So they'd have to probably get in there and scrape it. So while we're hunting he would be like and then he'd look at me. Oh no. I'm just thinking oh I'm such a such a horrible person. Oh no.