Jimmy Dore's Experience with Vaccine Side Effects

So what about, like, can we talk about ivermectin? Yeah, sure. So I covered it, what they did in Mexico City, and ivermectin seems to be a drug that not only treats it, but it will prevent you from getting it. I think we need studies. We need legitimate studies. And I don't know how that happens, because the problem with this argument, this conversation is, you know, you'll have people saying, I've used this on my patients, like Dr. Pierre Corey, who's been on this podcast. And I 100% believe him, and I support him, and I'm not saying that he's not telling the truth. The problem is, I think, in order to state something emphatically, like, this is what we need to do, this is the best treatment. We need studies, right? This is the only way you find out. And, well, who's going to fund these studies? Who's going to fund a study? And the problem is, it's a generic drug. That's it. No one wants it. It has a long history of use. And also, there's a difference between using it as a prophylactic, so using it as a preventative measure, which is one of the things that Dr. Pierre Corey talked about on this podcast. I forget where they use this, but there was hundreds of doctors. And then there was a percentage of them that used ivermectin as a prophylactic, and there was a percentage that did not. The percentage that did not, half of the doctors roughly, or half of the healthcare workers got COVID. The percentage that did use it as a prophylactic, 100% did not get it. Now, I don't know if they got lucky. This is why you need a large study, and it's a long-term study. I don't know, was their job different than the people who got it? I don't know. That's the problem. So when I'm talking, I'm a fucking comedian and a cage fighting commentator, and I'm talking about very important issues. I have to hedge my opinions on these things. It's tricky. But in an environment where people aren't allowed to talk or question things, well, for instance, my doctor, so when I got the vaccine, I got the double. Which one did you get? I got the Moderna because I have an underlying health problem. I've talked about it before on the show. My doctor, because my ... People are like, why did you trust the government? No, I don't trust the government. You trust Big Pharma? No, I don't trust Big Pharma. I trusted my doctor, my doctor who saved my life and said that because of your thing, you should get it because we don't know how it's going to affect you, and blah, blah, blah. So I got it. And then the symptoms you get from it, they never went away for me. What were your symptoms? So I had body aches, flu-like fever. I had a joint pain. I had a stiff neck. Have you tried going on an ice bath for 20 minutes? Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So how long did it ... I'm still cold. I'm still cold. I'm just warming up now. I can tell. I can tell. I can tell. How long did it last? How long did your symptoms last? So on April 17th, I got the second jab, and I just never got better. Was it immediate? After the first jab, did you have side effects? Yes, but they went away. And then the second jab ... How long did they last after the first ... I don't remember, but because ... A couple days? Yeah, it was like maybe a week, I think a week. And then the second time, they just never went away, and I was like, what is going on? Because I would get these waves of exhaustion a couple times a day, and then my producer had the same ... at the fifth week, I had a stiff neck. He got a stiff neck, and my wife got a stiff neck. And we all got the stiff neck on the side where we got the shot. So I got it on this side, they got it on that side. And then I looked it up, and it turns out stiff neck is a thing that people experience from the jab. And I was like, oh, I didn't know that. They don't tell you that. And so that's common. I'm like, okay. And then it spread to the whole neck. Okay. Now my producer and my wife, they went away. Their stiff necks went away. Mine didn't. So anyway, so I go to ... I tweeted about it. I tweeted like, hey, just let everybody know this is what's happened. This is my reaction to the vaccine. Yeah. And people started to come on me, like call me anti-vax. And I'm like, no, I got the vax. I got it. I go, when people have a reaction to an experimental vaccine that is not FDA approved, you're supposed to not suppress the reactions. You're supposed to ask people what the reactions are so we can make the vaccines better. That's a thing that when Jen Psaki is talking about misinformation online and combating misinformation, she distributed misinformation. Of course. She said that it's approved by the FDA and their gold standard. She said that? She said that. It is not approved. When you go to get the vaccine- You can pull that up. Let's make sure that she said it. I'm 99% positive she said that because I remember reading that going, you can't say that when you're the White House press secretary because that's not a true statement. It's approved for emergency use authorization because we're in the middle of a pandemic. Right. That's- We're in an emergency. Yes. But it's not an FDA approved- Joe, when you go get this, I'm going to get this jab. They give you a piece of paper and on it in bold black letters, it says, this is not an FDA approved vaccine. Right. They say, did you see that? I'm like, yeah. They go, you okay with that? Yeah, I guess. My doctor said I'm supposed to be here. Did you find it? Yeah. I found the transcript of it. I didn't find the video. Well, I'm pretty sure I saw the video, but I definitely have read the transcript and I want this to be accurate because it's a big accusation. This is what she said here when someone asked about the misinformation phase. What is this from? WhiteHouse.gov. Okay. So, you know, more than just a competition about vaccines, risk impact, okay, here it is. Misleads the public by falsely alleging that mRNA vaccines are untested and thus risky even though many of them are approved and have gone through the gold standard of the FDA approval process. Right? That's not true. So she's saying many of the mRNA vaccines. Right. There's only two that are mRNA vaccines. It's messenger RNA. That is the Pfizer and the Moderna. Those are the ones that we use in America. The Johnson & Johnson is an adenovirus vaccine. It's different as is the AstraZeneca, right? The AstraZeneca, I believe, is very similar to the Johnson & Johnson. They're different. But the point is- The Johnson & Johnson uses the old technology and Moderna and Pfizer, they use those ones that were developed by DARPA. Yeah. But the point is, it's like it's not FDA approved. No, because that takes a while. So if she's saying that, right, this is- Isn't that misinformation? It is. It seems like it. And if it says it when you get the jab and it says it in bold print, and so your experience, even though this is your personal experience and you did get vaccinated, people are so rabid online about this. Oh my God. It is the most divisive subject, I think, ever since Trump. It really is. It is a nutty divisive subject. And people just get furious about it. And they're furious if anybody talks about any negative side effects, even if it's accurate. I know. So I had tweeted about it just because I wanted to see if other people had this experience. And maybe it's just me, maybe it's not. So I got contacted by lots of people, same experience. And I got contacted by a doctor who's leading a bunch of other doctors, a group of doctors, and studying this. And they just submitted a paper on people about the vaccine. And so he tells me over a DM, this is what we think is happening. This is a spike protein you're suffering from, a spike protein thing, and blah, blah, blah. And go to see your doctor, and hopefully your doctor will work with us. And give me ivermectin and fluvoxamine I'm taking for inflammation in my brain. You have inflammation in your brain? Well, because it causes inflammation. So the spike proteins cause inflammation. And so they did some kind of blood test on me, and they said, yeah, you got the thing. Was it a D Dimer test? I know what it was. Joe, you got me. But they said, look, you have the same. You're right where a long haul COVID person is. Like whatever the markers were, I had the same thing. You're right there. And so I go to my doctor, and I start to explain to my doctor about what this other doctor told me. And my doctor says, oh, I'm treating five people just like you. And one of them is a neurosurgeon, and one of them is a nurse. And they were afraid to talk about their symptoms because they were afraid to be ostracized and stigmatized. And I'm like, what a messed up situation we're in in this culture when they politicize medicine where doctors and medical professionals are afraid to talk about their symptoms. That's horrible. It's also putting people on a position where Big Pharma is the good guy now, which has never happened before. And especially the exact same companies that people were openly criticizing in the past and showing, pointing out lawsuits they've lost for hiding information about test results, about things that have happened during studies. And these same people are now ignoring any possible side effects. It's nuts. I mean, how do we make it better? How do we know maybe some people? I mean, that suppression of data is not the way you improve a vaccine. The suppression of people's symptoms and data, that is not... No, and in anything, it's not how it works. That's how they want it to work because of Trump. Because if you say, it's just crazy. It is crazy. Even that hydrochloroquine, right? That member... Hydroxychloroquine. Yeah, hydroxychloroquine. That Trump was touting and they were like, he's nuts because he's touting it. I didn't know anything about it. But then all of a sudden, studies came out that say, hey, no, that actually has been helping. So now we have contrary contradicting studies, right? It was a Newsweek. I wasn't making it. I pulled it out of some crazy thing. It's an establishment mainstream news thing. I'm pretty sure it was Newsweek. And I tweeted it out and I said, hey, can we stop? Now can we stop politicizing medical science? Can we get back to just doing medical science again and asking questions? How much damage did Trump do on that one conversation he had? Do something like cleaning something with you? So much damage. You do bleach. Bleach, right in the... It's so much damage. Like a light. You could kill it with light. It's going to be a miracle. Like that one thing where people are like, what the fuck is... Because he was riffing. He was clearly riffing. He's clearly riffing. He didn't prepare for this. He probably just got done eating a fucking double cheeseburger. He's like... He's a salesman. He's just a big... But because he's so divisive, like everyone is still... It's almost like... Do you know, like if you got in a fight with someone, like maybe your neighbor, and then you got in your car and there was a road incident. You're like, get the fuck out of here. You're already so ramped up because of the fight you got in with your neighbor. This is what the whole country's like. That's a great analogy. That's what it's like. It's like the whole country just got in a fight with the neighbor. He's putting his trash can on your lawn. Like, hey, you fuck. Keep them on your own side, you piece of shit. And then you're in your car. Fuck! And this is like the whole country is like at eight out the door. Out the door in their car, already at eight. On a scale of one to ten. They're already ready to go. And so whether it's the vaccine, or whether it's the border wall, or whether it's kids in cages, or what the fuck, whatever it is, everybody's so goddamn angry and ready to go. And then you deal with the economic crisis that a giant percentage of the country just went through over the past year, and then losing loved ones to this fucking disease, and all this chaos, and so many people who have never experienced like high levels of adversity and all of a sudden they're confronted with it. If you've played it safe your whole life, you've really never done anything risky, never taken any chances, you've had a regular life, had a regular job, you've played it safe. And then all of a sudden now you're fucked and you're confronted with a perhaps deadly disease that might take you out and you've got all these other problems in the world and everybody's like, ah! And they don't have the coping skills. They don't have the ability to handle these things. And that's where we find ourselves as a country right now. And it's weird because then you have that with the echo chamber aspect of social media where everybody's just looking for positive reinforcement of their own ideas and confirmation bias. It's wild. Catch new episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience for free only on Spotify. Watch back catalog JRE videos on Spotify, including clips, easily, seamlessly switch between video and audio experience. On Spotify you can listen to the JRE in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data costs all for free. Spotify is absolutely free. You don't have to have a premium account to watch new JRE episodes. You just need to search for the JRE on your Spotify app. Go to Spotify now to get this full episode of The Joe Rogan Experience.