Jim Norton Reflects on Outrageous Opie & Anthony Moments | Joe Rogan

But you gotta know where you're at too. Getting fired from me, we got kicked off Opie and Anthony in 2002, best thing that ever happened to me. Because it showed me that it can all be taken away from you. So long before this whole culture of just cancel culture and all this shit happened, I had had that moment of life is good and then you're out. Fuck you. That was the Condoleezza Rice thing, right? No, that was on XM. That's when we almost got fired from the satellite. No, this was sex for Sam on terrestrial. This is WNEW. Oh, that's when you guys get fired because you had the people and they had sex in a... Mantle sex in St. Pat's, yeah. So that was two years off the air, but that showed me that they can take anything at any time. So I've never thought I was irreplaceable. I never think I got it forever. Anything I have I know can be fucking yanked immediately. Yeah, no, it definitely can. That was a weird one to me because the big thing was that these people had sex in a Catholic Cathedral. That was the big reason why they got fired, right? Because they didn't ask these people to do it in there, did they? Yeah, it was kind of a contest. It was known like you would get what they call a two point conversion if you had anal. Like there was all these weird things and it was a bad move to go into St. Pat's. They went into St. Pat's and there was an arrest and because there was an arrest, it became real and it was so avoidable on so many levels. Like so many things. Yeah, you look back, you're like, why did we just shut the fuck up and it would have stopped? You know, why do we push it? But you know, I'm glad it happened now in hindsight. Well, you know, in a lot of ways, it's there's this thing that people do, you know, we're talking about Ari before the podcast where it's your do things you're not supposed to do. So people go, I can't believe you're doing that. And then there's this like thrill to that. There's a thrill to it. And then what happens is you have to keep upping it. You have to keep upping it. And it's almost like you get a fear like if I don't top last time, the people who like me are no longer going to like me and I'm going to lose this momentum I've picked up. You become afraid that the people who like you are going to go, you're a fraud. You're not doing what we want you to do. So then you keep topping yourself and keep topping. It's like the kid who eats bugs. You know what I mean? You know, then he's eating a roast and the nice thing you know, he's fucking he's doing this because he's afraid of not topping himself. And then all of a sudden being ignored. Right. Like Pat, like the intern Pat. Oh, Pat Duffy. Pat Duffy. Best. He ate cat shit. He drank people's vomit. He was literally an indestructible fucking man. If you if you have to build a guy's like in a military, he's a type of mentality you want. Oh, yeah, for sure. You want to get him when he's 18 and just turn him into a full six. Savage. Yeah. What is he doing these days? I don't know. I haven't talked to him. I don't know. What about Pat from Wunaki? You know, I thought of him recently. He's on Twitter. I don't know exactly what he's doing. I would love to have him. I would love to have him onto our radio show because I miss Pat from Wunaki a lot. Dude, that day where he did the baby bird, the day where they had the eggnog drink contest, it was you and me and Burr and Ari. And there was a couple of other people in the studio as well. Yeah. That was one of my most fun times ever on the radio. So ridiculous. The whole floor. You could never do that today. Never. Never in a million years. We were in Opie and Anthony in the studio. The floor was covered in plastic bags because they had an Opie and Anthony had an eggnog eating contest and everyone would throw up. You'd get to a certain level of eggnog where you just couldn't take it anymore. And Pat had to throw up because he was diabetic. So he shouldn't have been drinking that anyway. No, he shouldn't have. So he's drinking gallons and gallons of eggnog. And when he threw it up, we said, like he was ready to go and I said, let's get Pat Duffy to lean his head. Was that your suggestion? Yeah. I was doing Fear Factor back then. My head was all full of sick things. That was like what year was that? Two thousand. I want to say 2007. Was it really? That was on K-Rock. That was on a terrestrial studio. Was it seven? Yeah. I'm thinking it was. Yeah. It definitely wasn't three because we weren't on the radio then. Oh, right. Right. Right. So he leans his head over this garbage pail and Pat from Wunaki blows just like a fountain, like the most insane Stephen King. Like was that movie Stand By Me? Remember the kid had the pie eating contest and the kids throw it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it was like. Like it literally didn't seem humanly possible that a person could have that much fluid in their body. And then when he was ejecting, it was like a cartoon. He's doing it in Pat's face. 2006. 2006. It was 2006. Wow. And I can't believe I forgot. I used to forget that that burrow was there that day. Yeah, we're all there, man. It's one of those things you're glad you were a part of, right? Like I'm happy I was there for that. I was happy I got to see that. It was so fun. That show, when it was in its prime, when it was in its peak, was so fun. Yeah. And it was a hang and it really influenced in a lot of ways the way I do podcasts because there's no structures. Just hanging out with funny people and just talking about stuff. No structure. Yeah, just bullshitting. Wherever it goes, it goes. I mean, it'll always go somewhere. I mean, you get people having a conversation. It's always going to flow somewhere. Exactly. It doesn't have to be controlled and regimented. And what do you want to talk? Is there anything worse when you go to a radio show? Like what do you want to... Dude, I've done radio shows where they tell you they want you to bring up certain subjects where you have jokes. You know, not even that long ago, man, like less than 10 years ago, I did one of those national radio shows in the Midwest and they asked me to do that. And I was like, what? And the producer got upset. And I go, I don't do that. I go, I'm not going to do that. And they're like, we need subjects. Like the guy was like pissy with me. Yeah. It's hard to do because you feel embarrassed. It's like you feel dirty like when someone's doing your bit and you know you're doing it and they're, aha, they're fake laughing. Oh, that's the worst. Who's enjoying this? That's what radio used to be though. What radio used to be, like you'd go on WAAF in Boston and you would talk to the guys and you would kind of work in your bits. Yeah. And like everybody did it. Everybody did their bits. Yeah, I guess it was a part of it, but I was never good at it. Well, because you're authentic. But Opie and Anthony was the first to meet. Howard's show was much more controlled. Howard's behind the mixer. He's kind of controlling everything. There was a certain amount of time that he would talk to you and then other people would come in and then he had like a more of a structure. Whereas ONA, you would go in there and Anthony would have a gun and fucking, Opie's behind the mixer just sort of watching all this chaos go on, different comics come filtering in. And you know, maybe I'm the time Mary and Barry walked in. Yeah, he was going on Sway next door and we he was like a little out of it and loopy and we fucking we just hijacked them and he kind of walked in like he had no idea who we were. It was really uncomfortable. And I knew he was gonna leave soon. So I immediately started asking him about crack. You went right into you knew it was in that pipe. He was like, nobody knows what's in that pipe. I go, nobody knows what's in that pipe. I'm like, you knew what's in that pipe. The fuck are you talking about, man? And the publicist was like, come on, let's go. They wanted to get him out of there. They wanted to get him out of there immediately. Yeah, that was fun. Mary and Barry, he died not too long after that. I don't think right. It wasn't that long after that. Yeah. It was funny, man. I remember there was an interview they did where there was a news station. They were talking to people about his arrest and all this stuff. And they interviewed this guy. He goes, come on, man. Everybody smokes a little crack every now and then. I'm like, everybody smokes a little crack every now and then. That's a great quote from a mayor. That's a great mayor's quote. It wasn't him though. He wasn't saying it. Someone else was saying it in defense of him. If it was him saying that, that would be hilarious. Yeah, I'm like, how did I miss that? No, it was another guy that was on the street who was like, everybody smokes a little crack every now and then. Did he get reelected after that, too? Yes, he did. I think he went to jail, came out and got reelected. Yeah. Yes. People at DC, very forgiving. LOL. Yeah. Very forgiving. Yeah.