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Steve Aoki is a musician, author, DJ, record producer and music executive. His new book called "Blue: The Color of Noise" is available now.
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I've read something about that recently. That entertainment has become the primary revenue source in Vegas, whereas it used to be gambling. Right. But it's, you know, there's still gambling, but boy, it's hard to just convince young people to start gambling. It's easy to convince them to start dancing. Yep. You know? Yeah. It's like, it seems normal. It's natural. There's the beat. You don't have the money to just risk, but you have the money to go and like experience fun. Yes. Yeah. You know, when you're older, you're like, okay, I can, I have some of like flexible income streams I can put down on some blackjack or whatnot. I would have loved to seen the Sinatra days, like Vegas when it was run by the mob. I would love to see what that was like. You know, the Rat Pack and Sammy Davis Jr. I just would love to been in the room and watch, watch one of those shows and then, you know, come to today and see how things have changed. I mean, I think that's like the Bourdain thing. Like he had been there when he was young and then see it changed now. Right. But I am fascinated by change. I don't resist it. And I don't, I don't say, Oh, the good old days, that don't mean shit to me. I am absolutely on the same page as you. Yeah. I'm interested. Yeah. I'm always interested in the next thing. I want to try the next thing. Yeah. And you know, you want to enhance your experience. You want to enhance what you're doing to make it serve you better. But if you went to someone like 1985 and said, Hey man, guess what? 2019 electronic music. It's going to be this shit. It's going to be everywhere. People would go, what are you talking about? Get this guy out of here, man. There's one, there's one guy that did say that though. Who? Jim Morrison. Did he really? Yeah. So like he did a prediction. It's like somewhere, I'm sure you can find it, but he did a prediction where whenever he was alive, I guess, I guess probably in 76 or 70. So he said like the future will be one, one person with some sort of computer or something that's going to be devised electronically or something like that. And that one person will be making music for people and, and performing that now watch a video. So I remember this. I remember this now. Yeah. So I, I forgot what he said, but he says something to that effect. And it's like, it's crazy because that was what 50 years ago, play this, take it from the beginning. Indigenous to this country are the black music blues and the kind of folk music that was brought over from Europe and I guess they call it country music or the kind of West Virginia high lonesome sound. Those, those are the two main streams of root American music. There might be others, I don't know. But like 10 years ago, what they call rock and roll was kind of a blending of those two forms. I guess in four or five years, the new generations music will be, it'll have a synthesis of those two elements and some third thing that'll be in time, maybe it'll be, it might rely heavily on electronics, tapes. I can kind of envision maybe one person with a lot of machines, tapes and electronic setups singing or speaking and using machines. His mindset is of what he considers what that would be. It's you know, he did predict. Yeah. I mean, where it is, you know, like, I think that's what happens when you do acid correctly. You get those sort of vision. Yeah, because I mean, also Jim Morrison, like, you could tell he's he's such an artist that, you know, he could, after the doors, you just be himself. Yeah. You know, he would have done a Jim Morrison album where he's made all the music, he's done everything, he would be exactly what he's saying. He's basically predicting what he would have, in my opinion, what he would become. And he was probably like 25 in that video, which is even crazier. Yeah. He was right at 27. That's crazy. Nuts. Yeah. Nuts. I mean, that whole era of the 1960s fascinates me to no end. I love the cars. I love the sound. To this day, most of the music I listen to is classic rock. I mean, I listened to a lot of new stuff, but man, I will pull out some fucking classic rock. I love it. I love listening to it. There's something about it that makes me, just makes me realize what a profound, profound change it was between the 1950s and the 1960s, that the culture exploded, that something happened, something happened, and the clothes and the music and the sounds and the fucking muscle cars, like everything went haywire. Like you went from 1950 to 1960 and just a radical shift. Yeah. Right. There's so many great artists, you know, Hendrix and Chance Chappell. Yeah. The whole idea of like, okay, now it's time to experiment and to free ourselves from the confines of what, like, you know, it's supposed to. Yes. Yeah. Right. The doors wide open. I think Buddy Holly was great. I love Buddy Holly, but if you go from Buddy Holly to Hendrix, you're like, what happened? What happened? You know? That's what acid trip actually goes right. Like you're saying. Apparently they said he used to put acid in his bandana. I don't know if that's true. Yeah. He used to seep into his skin as he was playing. And then he's just like lighting his guitar on fire and picking with his teeth. Man. How much would you love to watch that guy live? Oh yeah. Oh, that would have been incredible to be in the presence of something completely unique. You know? This hippie black dude who's the greatest guitarist of all time. Still, still. There's no one. There's some amazing guys today. Gary Clark Jr. and of course, you know, Stevie Ray Vaughan was amazing. There's a bunch of great amazing guitarists. But also the showmanship though. You know, the outfits. It's like all of it combined. Not just his technical ability. Yes. The fact that he was doing these things that you're like, you know, some of the guitarists wouldn't do that. That's not part of their like, you know, protocol. But he was just like on another world. Yeah. To be a part of that, you know, see that as incredible. A complete outlier. Yeah. Yes. And again, like no one was like that before that. Like go to the 1940s. It's only 20 years. 1940s are only, I mean, 20 years ago is, you know, we're dealing with, you know, 1999. That doesn't seem that long ago. Yeah. But 69 to 49, you might as well be from another world. Yeah. You really might as well be. Might as well be another planet. So what do you think was one of the bigger cultural shifts of why that happened? Drugs. Simply. 100%. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I mean, obviously when we talk about Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles and the Beach Boy, whoever else is like, yeah, the doors. Jaz Joplin drugs. Yeah. Drugs. The doors, drugs, right? Everyone drugs. They were, they were taking mind expanding psychedelics and the culture had shifted to embrace these mind expanding psychedelics. And there was also the resistance to the Vietnam war. There's this rebellious movement. There's these young, compassionate people that were trying to figure their way through life in a way that didn't resonate with the way their parents had set boundaries and standards. And they wanted out of all of it, that Goldwater Republican shit. They wanted to be free and flower children and hippies and then Woodstock and all that craziness, you know? And what's amazing is how quickly it ended. You know, so many things came along. The deaths, the deaths scared people. You know, like, you know, at the end of the day, like when, when they're dropping at 27, your heroes, Morrison, Janice Joplin, Hendrix, all 27. And like, they're the leaders of this experimental revolution. Yep. Not good. That's going to end things pretty quick.