How Would the US Government Handle Discovery of Alien Technology? YOUTUBE

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Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman is a computer scientist and researcher in the field of artificial intelligence and robotics, and host of the Lex Fridman Podcast. https://youtube.com/lexfridman

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Yeah, I talked to David for four hours. Yeah, why'd I bring that up? Because David Fraber, you were talking, let's explain who David Fraber was. Yeah. He's a fighter jet pilot for the Navy and he discovered a UFO off the coast of San Diego that when they tracked it went from 60,000 feet to one feet in a second or less. They don't know how fast it went because it's, you know, the blip of a radar, but the thing traveled in an insane way that defies all of our understanding of propulsion, all of our understanding of physics, and this thing also actively was blocking their tracking systems, which is an act of war. If it, you know, the Soviet Union or China was doing that, that's technically an act of war. So this thing was doing something that showed that it was intelligently aware of the fact that they are using tracking devices to try to lock in on it, and it behaved and moved in a way that defies all of our understandings of propulsion systems. It didn't give off any heat signature and the people from the Navy that he was communicating with saying, yeah, we see these every now and again. We don't know what the fuck they are. So the thing I was gonna say, this is a lot of interesting things to say about this, but so just I just remember that it felt like from that entire experience that because it didn't have a Chinese or a Russian flag on it, whatever he saw, is we tend to, just the entire system is doesn't want to acknowledge it. Like you just you don't know what to do with it. So they actually most of like when you return back to the ship and there's a bunch of pilots that put you know that saw it. There's a lot of people that witnessed it and there's also the video you know the majority of the people didn't know what to do with it. They just went on with their day like nothing happened. You know they kind of made fun of each other or whatever for you know yeah yeah sure bro you saw aliens but like they didn't they didn't know how to comprehend it. That's what I meant like if we encounter life from elsewhere in the universe. We think we would be as a population excited but it feels like just like with Bigfoot we want we're excited by the mystery when they're like when they're just out of reach. When they're like among us there's so many mysteries and incredible things among us that we just kind of take them for granted. Yeah. We don't even or ignore them actually even worse we ignore them. We get used to things. And that was the weird thing. The biggest mystery to me about what David Faver saw and a lot and then also with the the other videos in 2014 something like that to go fast is like it wasn't a bigger deal than I thought it would be. Well the big deal was when the Pentagon came out and said that they have recovered some vehicles that are not of this world. Now they didn't expand on that there hasn't been more conversation about that but my this is a purely speculation. My speculation is they are slowly spoon-feeding us information to allow people to be more comfortable with the inevitable arrival of something. If they believe that something's coming they don't want it to happen all at once. You see what happens just with the pandemic. You see what happens with George Floyd. You see what happens with anytime there's a big shock to our system and there's chaos in the streets. It's unmanageable and if the UFOs came in the middle of something like that like Jesus Christ like who the fuck knows what would go down. If I was someone who is in a position of power I would say listen this information is gonna get out. It's inevitable. So why don't we let people know now just give them just in words say we have recovered crafts that are not of this world. Say something crazy like that. Let print it in the New York Times get it out there and then slowly drip out more information. When they see these videos they'll get more and more accustomed to it and then eventually to be like masks. Like you walked down the street everybody has a mask on. You don't even think about it. Yeah but okay so let me. You know what I'm saying. Yeah I totally and this is such a fascinating question. If the government is in possession of an alien spacecraft what is the right way to release that information? The real problem is if it's more potent than any weapon that any civilization has currently on this planet. So if the United States is in control of this vehicle that is more potent and can do things that like if you really do have something that can go from 60,000 feet to one foot in under a second that I mean that's that defies all of our understandings of speed right. I mean that's so fast. If you could do that. Well there's arguments against because it could be human created technology too that's just 15, 20, 30 years out like the stealth bomber was developed secretly. So what defies it's our perception of its movement capabilities is what defies but there could be some tricks on perception that I mean that's the whole point with a stealth bomber is it's difficult to detect. Sure. And so there could be same kind of tricks on perception that you could just be playing different kinds of amazing secret human created technology that is able to deceive the human eye. That's a good point. I mean but the the thing about it is they tracked it. It wasn't just that it was the human eye that saw this and it's deceptive but also like the stealth bomber you know the way it's designed it blocks radar or it radar doesn't catch on to it. I think it is possible that some human created technology that's so far advanced from anything that we're currently that we currently understand like in terms of like mainstream propulsion experts and fighter pilots like David Fraver and military people it is possible that some civilization one of the one of the big civilizations on this planet whether it's China or Russia has come up with something that's above and beyond what everybody knows but it's not likely but it's not likely that they've made that much of a leap. In your sense on the other side of it's alien technology see I'm more optimistic to me as a scientist and engineer and actually David Fraver says this too in this time of pandemic in this time of like just just hard negative news everywhere there will be nothing more inspiring than the government in an inspiring like Neil deGrasse Tyson way coming out and saying we have not releasing the videos like they did which is I don't know if you know but they just put the videos on a website like there's not there's nothing it's just videos it's just like with like some boring documents and describe like nothing they're not inspiring we're not talking about like Neil deGrasse Tyson or like Carl Sagan Cosmo style like a beautiful inspiring what is more inspiring than an alien spacecraft look here's a there's a fascinating mystery here there's nothing more inspiring to us humans than that there is life out there intelligent life out there but how would you handle it like let's imagine let's imagine you are the leader of the United States and you find out or the you know whatever the head of the Navy military intelligence program whatever whoever you are you're a person that's in a position where you realize that this thing is from another world and you have this responsibility to try to somehow or another publicize this yeah I would I would exact I would I would approach it a hundred percent from the perspective of science here's a mystery so forget weapon like you you mentioned there's this inclination to think like how can I figure out a way to use this as a weapon to destroy Russia or China as opposed to seeing it like like going to Mars colonizing Mars or going to the moon originally there is some competitive element but mostly it's a human pursuit of understanding and human pursuit of overcoming our limited knowledge to sort of unlock mysteries of this universe from a physics perspective from an engineering perspective I would release all the information I have and release it in a way that gets the Neil deGrasse Tyson folks in the loop so it's it's almost like an inspiring effort for us as a humanity to understand what the hell this thing is versus let's keep it secret and see if we can use it as a weapon well I appreciate that you think that way because you're a scientist you're thinking about it in a very positive way to try to expand our education and our understanding of this this thing and maybe we could you know use it for good but you got to realize that anything that surpasses any and all technologies that we currently enjoy in terms of fighter pilots and jets and military superiority if there's something that just is above and beyond all if everybody has a Model T and you have a Ferrari or better yet you have a Tesla you have a Model S and everybody's got a Model T you you are this is in that you're in a race like you have something that is so far above and beyond what everybody else has it's not really a fair race it's a joke you'll dominate if that if you were in a you have a Model T and the other person has a Tesla and you're racing and the winner gets to decide who has all the food who gets all the women who lives in the nice house like you're gonna win every fucking time right now if you have a UFO if you have a spaceship that comes from another planet where there are a million years more advanced than us they've had a million years of evolution and technological evolution dealing with elements that are common on their planet that have to be created on a particle collider here and they only exist for a brief amount of time if they have something like that that's powered by something that we can't even imagine and you figure out how to use that here on earth you'll have technical superiority technological superiority over every other civilization every other country in that technological superior it's so funny us chimps are like still talking about our village we want our village to be better than the next village when there's an alien civilization that's a million years more advanced that would can easily destroy us if I wanted to right or actually understands the nature of existence in this universe on levels that are like with we we chimps talk about like meditation and finding inner peace like it understands on such a deeper level like the nature of consciousness the nature of intelligence the meaning of life all that weird stuff that we're so obsessed with understands in another level and here we are thinking about what the Russians are doing versus like understanding that mystery I think in the face of that mystery of something that's far more intelligent than us I think we can't it's a ridiculous notion to think we're anything but one human village and in terms of weapons because you said that get all the girls or whatever I think the weapons thing is the key thing and we're we already at least the major nations have all the weapons we need to destroy each other it's like we don't need extra weapons I well I mean it feels like it feels like your hypothesis would be like if an alien technology was here and we'd figure it out would be able to have something that destroys other chimp villages an order of magnitude more efficiently than your nuclear weapons thereby having an asymmetrical sort of from a game theory perspective power over other nations and we can tell China what to do we can tell Russia what to do that's that's the perspective from which they're thinking I just I'm not even saying that they're thinking that way I'm thinking a human would think that if they had control of this vehicle I'm not saying that the aliens would think this way I'm thinking also that we are constantly innovating when when you when you talk to people that are designing jets and planes and fighter pilots and they're really talking about new systems that they've created and new you know new new weapons they don't just sit back and say we have enough weapons to destroy Russia and China and the rest of the world combined so we're just gonna stop that this is not how human beings innovate human beings are in this constant state of wanting the newest greatest innovations we want to improve upon every single existing invention until we hit some sort of singularity point or whatever the fuck we're striving for as a culture and that would be that propulsion system if they you if you do really have something go from sixty thousand feet to one feet in less than a second you're dealing with something that we don't understand we can't do that right now and if we can you can figure out how to do that and propel people that quickly it would be a game changer now how much of a game changer what does that mean we're in this weird place where we kind of agree to not use our best weapons right like when there's a there's a face-off between the United States Jets and a Russian jet and they they come close to each other like over China or something like that it's weird because we're not shooting at each other but we're real close and even the missiles that we have they're not nuclear like we're but we're involved in a skirmish with another country but it does we don't use all our weapons like if we approached war the way people approached war in you know the the Middle Ages we would just nuke the fuck out of everybody that talks shit right anybody anybody what would it challenge us a would they just say fucking launch those missiles fuck those people instead of Twitter I mean nukes yeah exactly so we're already in this place where we don't use our best stuff we're already so if we had something that made us fly better and fly faster the real question is yeah how much would that change the world I don't know I don't know how much it would if we got in control of some UFO and we're able to get to China quicker with how much of a difference would that make in terms of like the way they responded to our military we're in this position now where there's multiple countries that have the ability to destroy other countries there's Iran has some sort of a nuclear program Pakistan has a nuclear program India has nuclear program you know of course United States Russia China there's many countries that have the ability to fucking wipe out huge numbers of the population like that just launch just one crazy psychotic leader who just decides to just listen we're gonna fucking make our mark here everybody together on 123 go boom episodes of the Joe Rogan experience are now free on Spotify that's right they're free from September 1st to December 1st they're gonna be available everywhere but after December 1st they will only be available on Spotify but they will be free that includes the video the video will also be there it'll also be free that's all we're asking go download Spotify much love bye-bye