How Fox Got Greedy and Lost "The Fighter and the Kid"

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Brendan Schaub

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Brendan Schaub is stand-up comedian, retired professional mixed martial artist, entrepreneur, and host or co-host of several podcasts and YouTube shows, among them "The Fighter and the Kid," "The Schaub Show," "The Golden Hour," "Calabasas Fight Companion." www.thicccboy.com

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Think with Bert and Burr, if they're like, okay, we want to do a show. Think of the 80s or 90s, you'd have to pitch it to a network, have them approve it, and they bring in writers. You're looking at how long would that take to evolve into a legit show? They get a pilot, then test well. Yeah, no chance. Yeah, and also people would start fucking with it. They would come in, Burr, I want you to dress different. I want you to dress, I want you to, I want like Sinatra. I see you, people taking you more seriously if you're wearing a suit. You cussing too much, Burr. Can you tone it down? You seem aggressive. Imagine if I went to a production company and said, yeah, what I want to do is like smoke weed and talk a lot of shit and say things I don't really mean, but I think it's funny at the time and then I regret it and I'm gonna drink a lot. Oh, and then we're gonna air the fight. So I'm gonna have my three dumb ass friends come. One of them picks the world's flag. And then we're gonna smoke weed and we're gonna talk shit, but also I'm gonna have presidential candidates and really serious people and scientists and me, a guy with brain damage, I'm gonna debate important topics to them. I'm about politicians on too. Oh, I have politicians on. Yeah, athletes. Yeah, everybody. Dude, go get the fuck out of this office. When Brian and I were at Fox, they wanted to make it a TV show, like a legit TV show. I remember that, man. Dude, I remember when they were telling you to not curse. And I was like, get out now. I remember yelling at you. They're like vampires. They're trying to bite you. They're trying to turn you. I remember me and Brian in that meeting. Not cuss. And I was like, this is what? But meanwhile, they liked you because of who you were before they came along. Before they came along, you were cussing. And then they wanted to do a sport. They didn't know what to do. They wanted to do a sport show with. Then they brought me in and go, they go, they go, so we know what to find the kid. What if we replace Brian Cowell with Michael Rappaport? No. Yep. They want to get rid of Brian. Wow. Is it because he's old? Is it because of his haircut? Is it because he's old and he just talks shit or what is it? Is it the way he dresses? Because I can fix that. That's crazy. What a bunch of dummies. They're like, this is great. Let's fuck it up. And this thing that I really like, let's ruin it. But then they're like, wait, they're making how much money? And we signed, no, no, no. So they went, hey, next year, the deal's up in December. We need half. And I went, oh, that's not happening. All right, well, December's last month. And I think we're in October. I go, that's fine. We're just going to go do our own thing and take all the money. They went, OK. And then I never forget this. He goes, I don't want to hear about this on your podcast. Just right up December. And I went, well, I can't do that. Do I go to the listener? No, I'm leaving. He goes, don't do that. And I went, all right, cool. Next day I go on the podcast. So in December, our contract's up because I want half our shit. I tried going back the next day. And with their security out front, they wouldn't let me in. Really? That was my last day at Fox. Really? Yep. Then we just started doing it randomly, man. Well, that's a real clear changing of the guard. With that old school mentality, they think that they own the talent. They think they owned you. The idea that they think they should have 50% just by that. But what are you doing? What are you doing? The guy gets on there. I forget. This guy gets on my face. It's a podcast. The guy gets on my face. I don't want to say his name. He goes, just how you have your black belt in fighting. I have my black belt in entertainment TV. Ah! Ah! Isn't that great? Oh my god. I would fall on the ground and start curling up in a fetal position. Laugh. I was like, I have no idea what you're referring to. What does that mean? I'm going to leave now. You know how to rob people out of the percentage that they really deserve? What are you bringing to the table? You're putting it on the internet. That's why I told them. I went, if you can show me why you guys do 50%, I'll give you 50. Go. Here's what's our studio. Fox gives you the platform. No, no, no, no, no. Hold up. Get a platform before you even got here. I can do this up the street and we're going to get more views, dude. Why would you get 50%? He's like, I don't know, man. There's no reason. I had a guy not that long ago ask for 50% of my podcast to be a part of a network. Not that long ago. You got your goddamn mind. Four years ago, maybe. And I was like, what are you talking about? 50%. Well, even now, certain comics want to start podcasts, go, hey, this network podcast came to me. They want 50%, but they're going to give me a studio. No, no, stop. Stop. Don't do that. Do it yourself. That's a weird number. Like you're pretending that they couldn't do it without you if you want 50%. 50% is like if you and me, right? If it's the Brendan and Joe show, well, it kind of has to be 50% because it's both of us, right? So it's like there's two of us. Yes. So you're part of the show. I'm part of the show. We need each other. We're the care of the getter. It should be 50%. That makes sense. We're friends. It should be 50%. But we could do it with Tom, the producer, or we could do it with Steve, the networking executive. You guys don't matter. So you can't have 50%. Maybe you definitely deserve something. 50? But 50 is crazy. It's insane. That's crazy. That's a crazy number. That means you're saying I couldn't do it without you. That doesn't make any sense. But that's what they used to do with TV shows. You've got to realize if you're thinking about Hawaii 5.0, like the production company has a deal with the network, and they put it together, and everybody gets paid. And the people that are putting it on television have a giant chunk of that. That's the studio executives, the networking executives. You go to their houses. They're big fucking parties, dude. I'd go to some of their houses, man. They'd have parties. And you'd be like, wow, these guys are balling. But what are they doing? What are they doing? Well, they're taking your stuff. And they're the critical mechanism that is necessary to get you on television. Well, now the world is television. Our heads are through the fucking holes. And now we're looking out at this open air. There's no need for someone to take 50% anymore. No, no one to. People don't give a fuck if it's on Fox, HBO. They don't have it. But that's how they always operate it. And those fans, those subscribers, or whatever network, they're going to follow me if I'm here, if I'm here, if I'm here. They don't get it, though. These guys went through the Fox system. People went through the ABC system. They went through the CBS system. And if they were in that system 20 years ago, this was the system. The system is you make deals. You put together shows. You're getting it on the air. It's you're very valuable. It's a very important thing. If you got on CBS back in 2000, it was a very important thing. So it made sense. The deal made sense. But it doesn't make sense on the internet. The internet is everybody's. It's like everybody has a CBS. These gentlemen who made that video on the coronavirus, they don't have a network. They don't need it. They don't need it. All it has to do is get to one of these social media sites. But. But. But. But.