Headbutts Change Everything w/Firaz Zahabi | Joe Rogan

The takedowns change everything. Yeah, they do. They takedowns change everything. So do elbows and the clinch. So do head butts. Head butts change everything too. You know, I had David Ladook in here from Letway. Yeah, yeah. You watch his fights, you watch them in those Letway fights, you realize like that's legit, man. Rory once he was like, he was between contracts and he's like, book me a fight at Letway. I'm like, why do you want to fight Letway? He's like, because now's the time, Ross, I'll never get to fight with head butts. Before I resign, he wanted me to take him down to the jungles of Letway. Oh, Jesus, give me an add mark. I'll book him a fight for $10 against some guy we don't know, no medical test, you know, you're the foreigner. They want to, you know, like, it's just, he's nuts. I was like, no, that's a really bad idea. He's like, come on, I'll never get to fight with head butts or else. I'm like, okay, I hope you never fight with head butts. I hope the day never comes. Well, I mean, you remember the old days? Yes. Like Mark Coleman. Mark Coleman used to take guys down and smash their face with his head. He would hold on to their biceps and boom, head butts you and punch you in the face. A very dangerous attack. Killer. Especially from a giant dude like that. Very dangerous. Yeah, it's also effective. I mean, the argument is, look, if you can punch me in the head, why can't I use my head to hit you? Right? If you can kick me in the head? What is so much more dangerous about me using my forehead to hit you with? Long term, long term repercussion. Don't you think? I don't know. Would it increase the level of concussions or decrease the level of concussions? That's a good question. Because for me, that's the major sin of our sport. The concussions. The concussion. I wish we could take that away. If we could take that away, I think it would be better because these fighters would be healthier long term. I'm hoping that medical science somehow steps in and comes up with a solution that's legitimate, similar to a solution for repairing ligaments. Right? Like, if you have... We're not going to outlaw heel hooks, right? They're a real legitimate part of the game. But if you get someone in an inverted heel hook and you crank on that fucker, you might rip that guy's knee apart. So that guy might have to go and get everything replaced and get cadaver ligaments and the fake ACL and all that jazz. We're not going to stop that, though. It's a legitimate technique, the sidekick to the knee that we see a lot of guys do use on the upper thigh with it, the hyperextends the knee. There's going to be someone who gets their knee blown out. I'm sure it's happened in other organizations. I don't think we've had it in the USC if they have. I haven't heard about it. Whitaker, no? He definitely heard it, but I don't know if it blew out. And then he went and did it in the rematch with Yoel right away. And also Jorge Mazvidal did that to Wonder... Oh no, Darren Till did it to Wonderboy. Oh yes, yes, that's true. Yes, same thing. That sidekick to the thigh. So if there was a way that they could repair brain damage, the same way they could repair ligament damage, I'd be so happy. Definitely. You know what I mean? Some IV stem cell, some way. I mean, they're experimenting with things, and I know they're having some positive effects, but nothing is like, hey, you tore this, go to the doctor, he'll fix that. We're not there yet. Because the thing is, with the headbutts, the fighters are going to go and train headbutts after. Right. They're going to be hitting the bag, they're going to be doing all this thing. What is the training going to do to their head? Well, have you seen what Laduka does? No. He does headbutts on the pads. So he'll do an accommodation on the pad and then a headbutt. Seems okay. Yeah, but let's see when he's 50. He's only like 28. Yeah, exactly. Give him a call when he's 50. Let's see. He won't even know what to phone. What's that noise? I think health first. Health first.