Having Social Media Discipline

You're dealing with someone, a company like say Instagram. How many people do they, let's guess, how many people are on Instagram? What do you think? Well there's 350 million people in the country, right? But in the world. Oh yeah. Instagram is worldwide. Yeah, billions. How many people do you think? Billions. Two billion? What do you think? Three billion. I'll say two. What do you think? How many people do you think are honest? It's probably about one. One billion? But daily active user would be less too. Let's find out how many accounts are on Instagram. Let's Google that. How many individual accounts are on Instagram? I'm saying two billion. What do you think, Jamie? You say one? You say like two, three? Yeah, three. Facebook's the most and it's not over two billion yet. Oh, it isn't? Pretty sure. I thought it was. Facebook's not worldwide. Yeah. Facebook changes elections in places. That's crazy. Right. I had Zuckerberg on and you could tell having a conversation with that guy like. Dang, I'm off. Instagram is. Two point three five billion active users. Wow, that's you. Wow. That's you. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, I guess it would be hard for them to feel. I guess it would be hard for them to feel feel like complaints. Meanwhile, that's fourth amongst the biggest social media networks globally. So it's number one. Facebook's number one. Two point nine billion. YouTube is two point two. I don't really consider YouTube social media not that much. Right. Maybe it is. I guess it is. But I don't use it that way. I use it for entertainment. Yeah. If I'm watching YouTube, I'm watching stuff like fights or clips. Yeah. WhatsApp is two billion. Well, WhatsApp is a communication app. I don't think that's social media. No. Instagram, two point three five. TikTok. TikTok's only one billion. That's interesting. I would have thought it was way more. I think it is. I think it's on the rise though. Isn't TikTok like a thing? And then Instagram Reels is competing with it, right? Where's Twitter? Where's Twitter at? I've also, Twitter's never been in the top ten. Really? But it's not even in the top ten. Oh, it's way down there. 397 million. Wow. Wow. I think Twitter is sick. Look at all these ones that are fucking way more. Like Pinterest? Pinterest is 475 million? Reddit. Look at Reddit. 40 million. 30 million. Woo. I'm not on Reddit at all. Thank God. Reddit is chaos. Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah. I know guys who go on Reddit and they read about themselves and they go down a dark road. They get their feelings hurt bad. Ooh. There's a bunch of intelligent vipers on Reddit. Facebook runs the top three of the top five, which is a little strange because they've split them all up and they could just be one app. Facebook Messenger could just be Facebook. Wasn't that one of the things that they asked ChatGPT? Do you think that Facebook is a monopoly and should it be broken up? I mean, absolutely. They said yes. Yeah. What did Zuckerberg say? Well, I didn't ask him about that. No. But for him, it was interesting because he's a very nice guy. And people think of him as like a robot. I think he's not that at all. He's a guy who created this thing a long ass time ago with no anticipation of what it was going to become. And then it became this fucking worldwide monster. This thing that's just so big. And he's a pretty interesting guy and very forthcoming. He was explaining about how the FBI contacted him about the Hunter Biden laptop and explained it on the podcast that it created a firestorm controversy. I'm sure. I'm sure. And he's largely explaining, well, the FBI told us that there was going to be some disinformation coming out of Russia. We're told that this and that. And so we limited its reach and then just was fucking giant news. This guy just created a fucking dating site for college kids. You know, X amount of years ago. But he was instrumental in growing it though too. And with that comes like bad stuff, obviously, not just the good parts of it. And also, I mean, most recently, he took a big blunder with that whole meta thing where they thought that everybody was going to put on headsets and delve into the metaverse. Oh, yeah. And that shit didn't work at all. No, why? It's too weird. Yeah. I love the art. I mean, that's close to, I mean, that will mess. I mean, you want to talk about social media fucking with your mind. That meta stuff, like in an alternate reality, we all just live in, you're basically getting closer to just being in a pod. You know what I mean? And having that on as your reality. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's just like, look, when I was a kid in the 1980s and 90s, there was times, good times, but there was times back then where people thought virtual reality was going to be the future. But the technology wasn't available. It didn't really work. But it was always this thought that one day we're going to live in virtual reality. And that was the matrix, that was all these different things. But it was like science fictiony enough that it was so far ahead. And then the technology was kind of clunky, so it never really took off. But then when Oculus came around, and what were the other ones? There was another big one other than Oculus. Vive. Vive. That's right. The HTC Vive. They were so good. You're like, oh, maybe we're close. And there's some fun fucking games you can play on that. Apparently there's an alien, like Alien won the movie game that is fucking terrifying. And you play it and you're on the Nostromo, that spaceship and the fucking aliens in the spaceship. And you're going down dark corridors and rain's dripping. And another thing just jumps out at you. It's fucking terrifying, apparently. But that, for whatever reason, they thought that was just going to sweep the whole country. And everyone was going to- And it was a virtual reality mask that you put on? The Oculuses. Yeah, the Oculus, it's very light. The new one is very light. The old ones, we had the HTC Vive at the studio and it had to be attached to a backpack and there was a cable that came above you and we had the cable suspended from the ceiling. So we had a sectioned off area where you could play in it. And then it got better and John Carmack got involved and they made even better versions of it. And then it became something you just sit on your head. And then when that happened, I was like, oh boy, we're getting close now because now it just sits in your head and you have these two controllers in your hand. But it's still just people are not that interested in it, which is interesting. That's good, I think. I think it's a good thing not to be on it. I think it's going to be the future. It's going to be something that's so wonderful and so exciting that you can't get out of it. It's going to be weird how it morphs with your mind. It's going to eventually morph with your mind, right? It'll be like part of you, kind of. That's where we kind of morph into the robot world, I guess. That's happening. That's going to happen. It's just a matter of what is it, 10 years? Is it 20 years? Whatever it is. But technology is going to reach a point where it's so... Look, no one ever would have thought that you would have a thing in your pocket where you couldn't stop looking at it. Right. I'm still amazed by it. I'm in New York and I'm watching people and I'm watching people just walk down the street with it on. And they're not conscious of anything else that is going on. And they're just walking down the street. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. His car is going to hit you. They're just walking down the street just immersed in it. Actually, if you're on the subway and you're not on it, if you're just staring forward, you're the weird one. You're the weird one. Everybody else is like, what's this guy doing? Did you get on a subway with a book? Who the fuck is this guy? Throwback. You're reading a book? A real book? Is that not even a Kindle? It's unreal. It's unreal. I had the books on my phone now, so I'm reading it on my phone. That's amazing to me. To have all that information, just a library. Oh, yeah. With a library app, you can just download books from the library on your phone and read them and return them. That's fantastic. Well, I have most of the books that I consume. I consume audiobooks on the way to work, coming home from work, and the sauna. That's where I do most of my listening to books. And I probably have 200, 300 books on this little tiny phone. It's unreal. And they're all hours long. It's a terabyte of data on that phone. So there's so much room. And also, it just stores it in the cloud anyway. So if there's no room, it's in the cloud. They download it. There's never been a time that you could have more access to information, but there's also never been a time where you're more distracted. Yeah. That's the rub. That's the rub. But if you're focused on the information, it's like it's college. It's basically a college in your pocket. It's unbelievable. And people listening might be like, what do you ... Because people grew up with this, but we didn't. I knew a time where this didn't exist at all. Me and my brother had a room together. It was both of us. No TV allowed in the room. Dinner together at a certain time. Unless you're working or you're at a sports practice, you're having dinner. My father's playing music while we have dinner. We're talking about our day. And when we go to sleep, it's like a room, no television. Because he didn't want us in our room watching television on our own. You want to watch television, you're out with the family. It's that kind of thing. I guess it's a different world. It's been a gradual thing, but it's still very, very different. I don't have kids, so I don't know how that would be. But I guess what you do, what you implement with your children sounds like the right thing. They get mad at you. Put your phone down. They get mad because that little dopamine rush is not even a big rush. That's what's weird. It's like this little drip of dopamine. But there's this pull, like, what is anybody texting me? Anybody whistling? I see some people on the podcast. They can't help but they reach for their phone. Yeah, that's the thing. They just check their text messages. And this is your podcast. And it's giant. There's millions of people watching someone just look at their phone. It's nuts. But they can't help it. They just get so sucked in. I've done it to the point where it's like when I first get up, I make sure I don't look at it and do other things first. And then I set time aside. And I mentally prepare myself. I go, OK, now I'm going to look at it. I'm going to look at it. I'm going to do as much as I want for 15 minutes. Check everything. Make sure everything's up. Check the comments. And now that the special is out, like respond to people as much as I can. And then after that window is over, not again. Yeah. Now, the trick is YouTube because I like to watch stuff on YouTube, but it's like I don't want to get addicted to scrolling on YouTube either. So that's the difference there. I'm definitely addicted to watching stuff on YouTube. Yeah. When I have breakfast, I get this little, it's pretty cool, this little kickstand thing that sticks up with your phone. That's great. I think this is called a coup case or something like that. I forget what it's called, but it's like bam. So I just sit there and I watch stuff while I'm eating. And I think I'm not addicted that way. Oh, I'm just being a drain. But that's YouTube. You're watching substance there instead of mindlessly scrolling, which is what I was doing. And it just, that creates so many bad emotions and stuff. It's like, I don't want, I don't want to feel that way. Isn't that weird that mindlessly scrolling creates bad emotions? Like, what is that? Why does it do that? Is it just you feel like you're wasting time? You're wasting time. You're seeing a bunch of different things. Like the energy coming from the thing. I'm a big energy guy too. It's like the energy coming from it is, it hits. Even when you're looking at your, I tried that for a while, looking at my own stuff. I'll just look at my own stuff. I won't look at everybody's stuff. But then you start getting like, how many likes does this have? That's not fair. Yeah, you end up swimming in your own narcissism. So it's like, no, stop that now. Yes, absolutely. But my point is, I'm navigating this at 50 when my mind has already been developed. What chance do kids have developing through this time period? It's a different world, but I think they're going to be fine. I really do. I think there's going to be a transitionary period where we lose a lot of kids. They don't know what the fuck they're doing and they get lost in it. But there's going to be enough kids that recognize like, okay, this is just the new reality of life and if you want to be successful, just like you when you were young, you had focus and dedication, you realize there's a lot of people out there that don't do that. And I can learn from them what not to do. There's kids that are doing that now too. I have friends that very much limit their kids' access to social media. They don't allow them on things. They don't allow them to have a phone. I don't think that's the way to do it because this is a reality and I think that if you give the kids the tools and the understanding to handle that, this is a new level of adversity that they have to deal with that we didn't have to deal with. But the way I look at it, it's like cold weather. Like if you grew up in a place with cold weather, you developed an understanding of what the fuck that means. Like you got to shovel snow, you got to deal with it. I think they have a new level of adversity because of the pressures of social media and because of the shit talking, especially with girls, girls are fucking mean to each other. The reputation destruct in the comments and shit on each other and group chats. It gets real nasty. You developed a level of resilience from being able to handle that and after a while you get okay with it and you have to understand what that is. But you have to understand what that is. And you're right, going in with that mindset is the important thing. If you're just caught off guard with it, then it can crush you and it has. It's driven people to suicide. It definitely has done that. And there's also a thing, the FOMO aspect and the comparison and this is apparently very bad with girls as well because there's a lot of people that are using filters and they're changing their body and these girls see these people and they look perfect and then they see themselves in the mirror and they have zits and they look like shit and maybe they're a little overweight and they get massively depressed. And then they think, well, the only way for me, I have to be like that person so I have to do what they're doing and be completely focused on my looks. And some people just unfortunately through a genetic roll of the dice, they don't have good features. They don't look good. They don't have a good body. And then they just feel fucking depressed because they're comparing themselves to this thing. So, I think that's a good thing. And I think that's a good thing. And I think that's a good thing. And I think that's a good thing. And I think that's a good thing. 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