Everyone Can Be Rich | Joe Rogan and Naval Ravikant

I feel like there's with many people this stress of this question is also accentuated by unhappy lives. It's accentuated by unhappy choices, by being trapped. There's a big difference between not knowing what the meaning of life is and God, I got to get the fuck out of this job. I have to, I can't live my life this way. What's the meaning of life if this is my life? Which is why I always start with let's get you rich first. That's why I'm very practical about it because look, Buddha was a prince. He started out really rich and then he got to go off in the woods. In the old days what happened was if you wanted to be peaceful inside, you would become a monk, you would renounce everything, you would become an ascetic, you would give everything up. You would renounce women, men, you'd renounce children, you'd renounce money, you'd renounce politics, science, technology, everything. You would go out in the woods by yourself. You had to give everything up to be free inside. Well today we have this wonderful invention called money where you can just store stuff up in a bank account. You can basically save up, you can work really hard, you can do great things for society and society will give you money for giving it things that it wants and it doesn't know how to get. Then you can save that up and you can live well below with your means and you can find a certain freedom in that and that will give you the time and the energy to pursue your own internal peace and happiness. I believe the solution to making everybody happy is to give them what they want. Let's get them all rich, let's get them all fit and healthy and then let's get them all happy. Are those things even possible? Absolutely. Everyone can be rich. Everyone can be rich. Everyone. Here's my thought exercise for you. Now it seems like we're in an infomercial. Everyone can be rich. I'm not selling anything. Look at my home, this is my Rolls Royce. Yeah, so that's a good point. Everything that I've ever created on this topic of how to make money I will never charge a dollar for because that would ruin it. That would show that I'm just another huckster who's trying to get rich off of you. There are no get rich, that's just somebody else trying to get rich off of you. To me it's more of a philosophical contribution for it to have meaning and to be legit. I can't charge you anything for it. But yes, everybody can be rich. Let me give you a thought exercise. Imagine if tomorrow we could wave a wand and everybody was trained as a scientist or an engineer. Everybody. Even if you weren't very good, you had enough understanding of computers, you could write some code, you could build some hardware. And don't tell me people can't do it because they can. That's just a tyranny of soft expectations. That's just you looking down on somebody else. They can do it. They just have to be educated. Now, if they're educated all as hardware, software engineers, scientists, biologists, technicians, hard sciences, not the social sciences, we would all be done within five years. Robots would be doing everything from cleaning toilets to cooking food to flying airplanes to driving Ubers. And what would we be doing? We would be doing all creative jobs to entertain each other and researching science and technology. We would have wonderful lives. So it is really just a question of education, nothing else. Is this a scale issue though? I mean, you're talking about it as if this would work with 300 million people. It'll work with 10 billion people. It'll work with a space faring race with 100 trillion people. We have the resources. We have the ability. The universe is infinite resources. You build it, you know, have you heard of a Dyson sphere? You know, you pull the Dyson sphere on a star and you gather all its energy. Like that, there's so much energy out there. One asteroid's got all the minerals that we need. One sun, one solar system has got all the power we will need for a long, long time. You know, we can extract it out of nuclear fusion. You know, we're not that far from those kinds of technologies working. It's just a question of guts and, you know, and interest. Like we should be building nuclear fusion test plants on the moon. The moon should be littered with snow downside. Right. Yeah. If you could... How would that work? Send a bunch of people up there to work? Oh, the problem with robots. The problem with fission, nuclear fission is that, you know, nature creates energy through nuclear energy, right? Like the sun creates energy, nuclear energy. Now for transmission, we use photons because photons don't interact. And so photons are great for information transmission, but they're actually not great for energy transmission. For energy creation, you want nuclear to work. And the problem is because nuclear energy, you know, we built it with a bomb, we have dirty nukes, all those kinds of problems with Fukushima, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl. We don't innovate anymore on nukes. Imagine if when the first steam engine blew up, we said, oh, no more steam engines for a while or very carefully regulated billion dollars of regulation. You can't innovate that way. When the first airplane crashed, we said no more innovation in airplanes, right? So we need a way to iterate on nuclear fission and eventually fusion and get them working safely, cleanly, passive failure, et cetera. If we're going to find our way out of the energy trap and the best place to do that is someplace like on the moon or Mars. Do you think that it's actually a possibility that they could get nuclear power to the point where it's not a detriment because what everyone's worried about is a meltdown, right? And we do have these old plants that are running that are running on this. This is 50 year old technology. It's crazy because there's no ability to shut them off. Right. Very old technology. We have Gen 4 nuclear reactors that are passive fail safe. So in other words, when they fail, they fail into a, when you pull the plug on them, they fail into a state where there's no leakage, there's no problem. Their default is a positive outcome as opposed to the current ones, the old ones where if you unplug them, like they can be knocked down. Even these Gen 4 are just Gen 4. They're not Gen 5. They're not Gen 80, Gen 100. Where we are microprocessors, right? And that should be something that people are working towards. I hope so. In an ideal world, the problem is if you have nuclear energy on the moon, how do you get it home? Right. So what you actually got to do is you got to rev it on the moon and you're using it there maybe to launch more satellites, more rockets further out into the solar system. And that's the initial use case. But then eventually the technology gets so good you can bring it home.