Duncan Trussell: There’s Two Kinds of People You Meet at 4 AM

We talked to one. Yeah, when we were at the CDC. I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it either. Scariest fucking interview ever. Of all the, not just that show, just of all time. Sitting with that, I wish I could remember his name, the guy who ran the head of the place. Didn't we have some crazy flight too? We flew in and we didn't have any sleep. When is something nutty? We finished a flight because we got stoned and we talked at the airport. And we talked for like a fucking hour and a half and then suddenly we're like, oh fuck our flight. That's right. We didn't just miss it by like five minutes either. We missed it by like 20, 30 minutes. And we were at the airport. And it was empty at the airport. And we're like, oh fuck man. We have to tape this show tomorrow. Do you remember? Yeah. So we had to fly a different flight and we barely got an hour's sleep, right? I think one of us might've had some metafinal. Oh, that's right. We took that stuff. Yeah. That stuff, if you've never like new vigil, if you've never had a, or pro vigil or new vigil, I think they're real similar. I don't remember which one I've used. I think pro vigil is what I used. No, new vigil. That's what I used. Definitely. The new one. And it doesn't, it's not speed, but it definitely gives you energy and it keeps you awake in the weirdest way. It's like, but you're making an agreement. Like okay, here's my agreement. I want to stay up, but I promise to get sleep from now on. I'll get sleep the next day. I'm not going to keep using this. There's not something I'm going to keep using and stay up all the time. No. Well, that's where you go crazy. You can use it for that. Like if you're a real crazy pro, like I know some people that use that shit for writing. They write on that shit. And they feel like without it, they don't feel like they have any energy. Yeah, man. I mean, that's the trap of all those things. Anything that's any kind of new tropics going to do that, man. But also I think some people from the sleep deprivation, that's where they become antennas for the good ideas. They like to get in this like fevered state of not sleeping for days at a time and go literally insane. And somewhere in there, they write really good stuff. That's what the news radio, the staff at news radio, they used to do that on purpose. I believe it. Paul Sims, a brilliant guy, the guy who created news radio, and he thought it would be a good idea to have a writing staff fill with a bunch of psychos who were willing to play video games and stay up till four o'clock in the morning every night. It was like this mad vagabond crew of writers that he had assembled and they would play video games and just talk shit. And then they would start writing at like 2 a.m. sometimes. But they would come up with these amazing scripts because the scripts were so ridiculous. Some of them were so ridiculous and it's because they were delirious when they were writing them. Instead of doing drugs, they were doing the drug of just staying awake. Dude, this is for me, I started doing this about six months ago, maybe a little longer, waking up at 4 a.m. regardless of when I went to sleep. I was having some insomnia. And so I realized like shit, I'll just like wake up when I wake up. And then waking up at 4 a.m. if you have insomnia, that is going to cure your fucking insomnia because when nighttime rolls around, you're exhausted. But not only that, 4 a.m. is like the great time for writing weird shit because you're still half asleep and the stuff you write, it's like really feels like you're tripping, you know, especially waking up at 4 a.m. and then like eating weed. I was doing that. So you do eat weed first and then start writing? Yeah, well, no, my system before the fucking apocalypse was. And again, I wasn't doing this every day, but I did do it for a stretch because I got into David Goggins. Oh, shit. The Goggins flew, man. I'm waking up at 4 a.m. I gotta go, I gotta go. But 4 a.m. eat weed, go to the gym. And because I was at the gym, that's where I would write. You were there that early? Well, no, because it would open up. I got there once before the gym opened. You must have felt like a savage. No, I didn't do because what happened was I got to the gym and then I did it. I felt pretty fucking cool. But then I went into the car and I had like 30 minutes to blow. And I'm fucking stoned, man. And I'm sitting there baked and I'm like, fuck it, I'll just like sit in the car and try to meditate. This is in the parking garage of the goddamn Hollywood Equinox. Now let me tell you something, man. That area of Hollywood is already fucking weird, but I'm sitting there with my eyes closed, kind of tripping. I feel like I'm half asleep, half awake. I look over, there are two dudes creeping up to my car window, creeping up there. And I'm like, what the fuck? I was sitting in the passenger side. I jumped to the driver's side, started the car. I'm driving through the parking garage stoned. These two weirdos were definitely walking up to my car. I'm like tripping. I'm like, what the fuck? Fuck, I'm not going to work out. And so I leave and I'm like, what the fuck? I'm going to let these two like 4 a.m. weird vampires stop me from working out. So I drive back in. One of them's like leaning up against a pillar, like just staring at me. Creepy, dude. These people look like the Lost Boys or something. Well, they're probably preying on the cars of people that go to work out. They're probably looking for a car to break into. Right. 4 a.m. people that are out on math and they know that this is assholes like to go to the gym and leave their shit in their car. Right. There you go. There you go. It was terrifying. But, you know, it does. That's what you get at four or five, four to five a.m. Is you get math heads and you get people who are trying to improve their lives. It's the funniest mix of people. You get people who are like, I'm not going to waste a fucking second. I'm going to get up early. I'm going to exercise. I'm going to write because that's when like I mean, this is a woo idea. Feel free to light that shit again. But like there's this there's an idea of prana, which is like energy. And there's more energy in the morning than there is at night. So if you get up at four, you're getting like the the purest most amount of this shit. So that's why a lot of people meditate it really early. Why like a lot of monks get up really early is because like it's a I don't know. It's just a very it's the most psychedelic time way more psychedelic than like midnight. Yeah, it has. You're you're having you're exerting some form of control over your life. That especially. You're that you're exerting discipline. Like my friend Jocko, he says discipline equals freedom. He gets up every morning at 430. There you go. And he puts a photo of his watch on Instagram. And usually it says go time or something along those lines. Get after it. That's so fucking fucking day.