Could Jon Jones Take Francis Ngannou?

John Jones vs. Francis Ngano. Why'd you have to go there dude? What is that like? That's gonna happen for sure. The only thing that I would hope if that ever happens is that we allow Ngano to get the press that he deserves. Like to pump him up in a way that he deserves to make that fight as big. You don't think he gets it? People are terrified of that man. They are hardcore fans and hardcore fighters. Like everybody who's in the know and everybody in the heavyweight division has to be together. But he's not like a superstar? He's not a worldwide... It's too tough to get superstar status. You gotta do some shit. Well the thing is if he had beaten Steve Bay... That Derek Lewis fight fucked him up. Yes. Yeah that was a hard one. And this Steve Bay fight fucked him up too. If he had beaten Steve Bay... That would help. He would be a national hero. He'd be a huge... Not America. He would be a huge success story. Well first of all in this country for sure. In Congo for sure. Well he's still a hero there. For sure he is. But I mean in this country he would be a hero of like the scariest guy in the world was an immigrant that barely spoke English just a little while ago. And now he's murking people and he's only been fighting for six years. And he developed his strength by the way in a sand mine when he was a child. Jesus. Doing child labor in Africa. It's insane. What the fuck man? Oh Andy obviously would be a really nice guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's from camera room. And he's funny. He's like smiley, funny, happy guy. He hits people and they go into orbit. They go into orbit. Their soul leaves their bones. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? I think John still beats him. Dude what a fight that would be. He does right? What a fight that would be. Fuck out. I think John would be the favorite. Does John beat Stipe? If you had gotten to your head? I think John beats everybody. There's not a man on this planet who beats John. We never seen John where he doesn't have to lose weight. We never seen John where you know he's not cutting 25 pounds and just fucking watching his diet. What if he's eating healthy, like good large portions and just hydrating as much as he wants all day long. Maybe he's 10% better. You know we don't know. Maybe John Jones is really the best 240 pound heavyweight in the world. He's just been fighting. Has he walked a 245? No but he could get there easily. He's 230 out of the easy. Right. And if he decided that look he comes from one of the best camps in the world. If Javier Vasquez and Crazy Bob Cook get together and they come together with like a physical plan for like a Cain Velasquez. If they're going to look at what's the best weight for a guy like Cain Velasquez they're probably going to say you don't have to lose any weight. Like 240 seems to be like Jackson Winklejohn. They're going to do the same thing. 100%. They're one of the best camps in the world. John Jones was raised in one of, you look at the six, just go down the line from Carlos Condit. Even Yoel Romero went down to Jackson Winklejohn. He was training with that job. It's going to be like AKA or like Rufus or like any of the top camp. They're going to go where do you think he's going? He's going there. He said he's going. He already said he's going. I know but they're going to figure out a weight for him. The perfect weight. Even 235. You said Israel Adesane is way bigger than you thought. Way bigger. And he's definitely a better striker I would imagine. I don't know about MMA but he's, that would be an interesting fight. He's just too small I think. Isn't he? Isn't he too thin? Well he's a solid 30 pounds lighter I think walking around than John is. That's it very significant. But that's why he's not, he doesn't want to fight him now. He wants to get older. Israel can gain weight. Israel can, you know, if he decides, like Canelo Alvarez when he went off to fight Kovalev, right? Again, same kind of thing. Canelo Alvarez is a world class camp. They figure out how to do this. They might have used a little. Yeah I was going to say. There's also, they might. There's definitely might be, I'm just, there might be some. But that stopping argument is not true. It's not that outlandish. It's not that outlandish. When you see him you're like Jesus Christ. But if he can put on the weight and physically get up to a certain weight. Because his skill set, his striking is better. Yeah. Well he's legit world class. Legit world class. Legit world class. He lost in a title fight to James Willness and I thought he won. It was, is a very close fight. Look what he did to Robert Whitaker. Yeah. He looks like he's 6'5". He's a beast man. Is he? 6'4". That whole gym they won gym of the year. Volkanovsky. Hooker. He just became world champion. Dan Hooker who bounced back from the Barbosa fight looking like an animal. Looking better than ever. He's fighting a boy Felder. That's a crazy fight. And they're in, I think they're in New Zealand right? Yep. Ooh. Dude there's a bunch of killers in that camp. But they would have to have, they would have to formulate a game plan. They would have to say okay. What weight is the right weight? Is it, are you too big at 230? Because you'd be 220? Is 220, are you faster? Like when you have the most cardio? What's the fucking point of diminishing returns? Just speed. I think with, like my example with Kane was probably not the best example but I still to this day think of him as like probably one of the greatest talents of heavyweight division. That's a great example. Because he was 240. But it's a great example in his weight but I don't think he ever concentrated on it. I think he just went at it. Just trained real hard and was 240. But like. Look at Stipe. 238. But like okay. Like here's one like Marlon Marais. Like Marlon Marais when he went to, when he fought at 135 against the Houdon, faded. The next fight he came in lighter. Like they're you know American top teams. Like listen, listen, listen, let's bring your body weight down a little bit. Let's figure out what's the right formula here. And that's why a big camp that has a lot of experience in world title fights and knows like seeing so many different fights. It's so important because they can look at you and go Brian I don't see you as a 70. I see you as a 55. I think we got to get nutrition in order. Like what they've done, like think about what's happened with Aldo just with the introduction of a nutritionist. 135. He used to have trouble with 45. Legitimately made 35 and looked like a beast and took big shots from Marais. Some people thought he won the fight. I thought he won the fight. Yeah that's fair. I thought he won the fight. There's no argument. It was close. It was close. I can see how he both plays. Yeah. But dude that's all about optimizing all your possibilities. And then there's guys like Jon Jones who don't have to do that. That's so good. Yeah I just want him to get a heavyweight. I just want him to get a heavyweight. You just want him to get up for it. Can you imagine the fucking trailer for him versus Stipe then him versus Francis in Ghana. Him and Francis I'll think. They announced that fight. You just wonder though about his brothers being all stars in the NFL. Hold on. His brother I think was second in the league in sacks. Chandler Jones. Think about that. Now and his brother and would you say his brothers are better athletes than John in one way or another. Or is it you can't say that. When it comes to what the NFL requires. Look at how much bigger his other brother is. Because Chandler and this Arthur. Now if that. The one on the right is the Pro Bowler. He's a beast in the NFL. Now if that guy's training. He might be the only guy who could beat Jon Jones. 65, 260. He ain't making 205 son. Oh no he's not. That dude's huge. That's phenomenal. But John John John grew up with those guys battling. That's the big things that they grew up beating each other's asses. That's what John's used to. And then the one on the left who's a D tackle in the NFL. I think he's still in it. But he would come in for John's camps. And hold John down. He would. Yeah. He would train with John. Oh he did. Great guy. He's enormous. Yeah there's video and pictures of Arthur Arthur training with John. He's so big. Look how big he is. Oh my god he's 300 plus. Yeah. That's a big fella. Anyway. So it's a great gene pool he's coming from. And you know I have this theory about guys who grow up with brothers that beat their asses. Like Matt Hughes. One of the greatest welterweights of all time. One of the things about him is he had a twin brother that was exactly him. Doesn't Askren have a twin brother? I don't know. But Matt. I don't think so. Matt and Mark Hughes used to beat the shit out of each other. Check that out. I think I've been asking him as a twin brother. You ever see Joe Lozon and his brother beating the fuck out of each other at a family picnic? The Diaz brothers do. They have an MMA fight in the grass at a family picnic. What? Yeah family picnic. They're all hanging out in the backyard of a house. All the families around with fucking red cups their hand drinking beer. And these guys are beating the fuck out of each other. My brother had to go see a therapist he'd beat me up so much. Oh sorry never mind. And Max Askren. And not twins. Definitely not twins. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that thing about brothers. It's that's one of the ways to make tougher people. Because you don't get an escape. Every day that big mother fucker is right next to you and you're like shit. You have to learn like Chris Whiteman. Same thing. It's probably voted him when he was younger. They did a really interesting study about the fastest people in the world. All were like either the youngest or second. I guess they're black. Large families. Yeah. And they had to keep up with their older brothers and sisters. There's some that's a little bit of bro science but that is written up in the book. I think it's outliers sports gene or outliers. I think it's an outliers. Yeah. It's in one of those. Yeah. With the exam and why people are hyper successful. That'd be a good name for a podcast bro science where it gets out there. Car launch to talk about bullshit. Yeah. And you don't have to be an expert on it. And that's what we all do. Do that anyway. Besides Joe all of us. Yeah that's what we do. When you call it bro science then you have a free pass. Yeah. Dude I do it too. I don't know half what I'm talking about. You like looked at a chart. How much of what I'm saying. Do I actually know what I'm talking about. Yeah but that's the difference is you'll ask questions. Yeah but that's the question. We just. Yeah.