Controlling the Urge to Panic During Coronavirus Pandemic w/Andy Stumpf | Joe Rogan

Here's the numbers, right? Hospitalizations intensive care unit admission, case by case fatality percentages reported for COVID-19 by age group. So this is up until March 16th, which is just a couple days ago. So zero to 19, there's 123 cases, 1.6 to 2.5 were hospitalized. Zero ICU, zero fatality. So then you get 20 to 44, that's you, 705 cases, 14.3 to 20.8 hospitalizations, 2 to 4 ICU, and 0.1 to 0.2 case fatality. Now you've got to think those people are pre-existing conditions. Just looking at those numbers, 45 to 54, that's my age group. 429 cases, less for some weird reason. 21 to 28 hospitalizations, 5.4 to 10.4 ICU, 1.4 to 2.6 fatality. Again, you've got to think those people are pre-existing conditions. It gets all the way up to really old. Let's go to 85 plus. That's Callen's age. That's Callen's age. Yeah, high risk. 144 hospitalizations, 144 cases, 31 out of 144 to 70 hospitalizations. So 31.3 to 70.3 hospitalizations. Six to 29 ICU fatalities, 10 to 27. So the vast majority of fatalities, you're looking at people between 75 and 84, which is 4.3 to 10.5, and then 85 plus, which is 10.4 to 27.3. So it's really obviously not good for really old people. It looks like you got a 25% fatality rate at the worst case scenario for hospitalized people that have the case. But again, for young, healthy people, it's not the big monster that everybody thinks it is. I mean, there's people running around terrified that are young and healthy. The real concern is older folks. Well, there's other than the spectrum too. There's the young people running around terrified and healthy, and then there's the people who are mobbing beaches in Florida on spring break saying, our future leaders. Fuck it. Did you see that video? I'll probably be gone by the time they're the future leaders, but yeah. It's hilarious. And you have to assume though that those numbers are completely inaccurate, but I would imagine the number because of the lack of testing, but the percentages are probably still the same. I think there's probably just bigger numbers. Yeah. Well, kids are just going to be kids, man. You get 18 year olds on the beach in Florida, they're there to fuck. They're not worried about catching the COVID-19. They don't even know what the fuck that is. Their brains aren't even formed yet. As my nine year old says, they have mushy brains. I was trying to explain to the nine year old what the development of the frontal lobe is. And I'm like, because we were just talking about, I talk to my kids like they're kids, but I also talk to them like they're adults. I do the same. I lay things out and then I explain. So I lay things out like I laid to an adult. And then I'm like, your frontal lobe is a part of your brain that makes the decisions and it's not fully developed until you're 25 years old. And so you see the little nine year old brain spinning. I go, it's not really ready yet. She's like, so it's like squishy brain. I go, exactly. Perfect. Nine year old vernacular. I like it. This is how she explained it to my wife and then her and I had this little conversation about squishy brain. And I'm like, this is what the frontal lobe is. And you see people that are young, they're doing stupid things. It's not even necessarily that they're stupid. They're just acting. They're wild. They're free. Their parents probably tell them what to do too much. The school tells them what to do too much. Their job tells them what to do too much. And then they're out and they have a couple of fucking Miller Highlives and they're like, fuck, fuck the COVID. I don't give a fuck. By the way, have you seen the coronavirus song yet? You posted it. I saw it. I watched it. I watched it again. Jamie? You can't play it? No. That's the thing. The copy guys taken down. Really think so? Definitely. You need to respect other people's intellectual properties. It wouldn't help. It wouldn't help them. It's not how it works. But I mean, is that on Spotify or even do they have a label? They definitely could. I think they're comics. They could go on and take the video down. I don't know. We're trying to help you guys. Sorry. Go to my Instagram. I was just going to say that's probably, that's where I saw it. Yeah. I might've watched it five or 10 times. Yeah. I'll play it if you want me to. No, that's okay. You're right. I'm being an idiot. But the gentleman who made it, these guys, I mean, one of them reached out to me and I fucked up. It's Reggie Bay B, B-E-E-2. And then there's a fucking Reggie Bay B-E-E-2 underscore that's a fake account, those cunts. And so I accidentally tagged the fake account at first. I was going to say, that's how mistakes happen. But now I got the real account. Well, it's just some fucking hoaxer who's pretended to be him. Yeah, which one's fake? The fake one is the one that has the underscore after the two. That was pieces of shit. That's the real dude, Reggie Bay B-E-E-2. I mean, how's your wife think about what's going on? She's not concerned about us. She's concerned about her mom, which we should be. And I'm concerned about my parents as well. And more concerned that people are freaking out and that there's a lot of people around us that have never been tested and they're not good under stress. This is a very unusual stress because there's no clear answer. Not from the president, not from the doctors. No one has a real clear answer of how to fix this, when it's going to be fixed. And when you hear things about a vaccine will be available in 18 months, what? Well, and if you continue reading, that says if it is available in 18 months, that would be three times faster than normal. Wow. So that would be on the very front leading edge of what would be possible to get in people's hands. Normal would be three X that. In Osterholm, the guy who was on the podcast, it really sparked a lot of people to take this very seriously. It was an excellent podcast, by the way. Yeah, he's amazing. And he said that they could have had a coronavirus vaccine that once SARS happened, SARS, which is also a coronavirus, they could have worked on developing a coronavirus vaccine then. And that we are far too flippant about how we approach these things. And if it's not there right in our face, they don't allocate resources towards those kind of things. I think our society is kind of defined by its excess and luxury. And when you live in that environment, and I'm not saying it negatively at all, but if you live in that environment, if you never leave that environment, if you don't bend yourself before the world bends you a little bit, shit's going to come off the rails when you get pressed. And that's where the behavior of people scares me far more than the actual virus itself. I mean, I have no control over if I get the virus and how that plays itself out for me. I cannot control that, but I can control my behavior and how I act and try to exude calm, like when it comes to my kids or my family, my friends and my social circle. But yeah, I wish, I hope that people on the other side of this, because it's not going to be the end of the world, but I hope on the other side, it gives them a greater understanding and appreciation and perspective of what we have, how lucky we are. And then just maybe to think about the people, what's the obesity rate in the US right now? Very high. 40%. How about we work on that? Just a touch, considering that's one of the highest risk factors, right? Instead of allowing that excess and luxury to define you, how about- That's something you can control. Right? At all times. Yeah. You can't control whether or not you have a disease or whether or not you're old, but you certainly can control whether or not you're fat. The problem is people, in my experience, spend a lot of time, energy and effort focusing on things that they cannot control. And that is definitely one thing that I learned from my old job, is that at some point you have to surrender the emotional and mental horsepower on the things that you can't control and only focus on the things that you can, which is specifically yourself. You can't control what happens to you, but you can control how you receive what happens to you. And when you're scared, allowing that to make the decision-making process for you is what gets people in substantial trouble. Like, I'll give you an example from my old job. Getting shot at is not awesome. It's actually, it can be quite terrifying. And the number one rule of a firefight, if you get into a gunfight, is to win. But the first thing you need to do is you need to shoot back with overwhelming fire superiority, and then you have to maneuver, right? So you have to pin your enemy in place, and then you have to maneuver. But let's say you get ambushed, and you're on the receiving end of that. And so you take a knee behind a wall, and bullets are snapping over your head, and you don't want to move because you're scared, and you think, I'm going to die. So you have fear of death, which is totally real, and it can paralyze people. And instead of moving, you sit there, and other people maneuver around you. That fear of death preventing you from doing the things that you had control over, shooting back, maneuvering, coordinating with your team, that fear paralyzes you, and external circumstances or the enemy that you're fighting will maneuver around you, and then they're going to end up killing you. But the reason you didn't move is you allowed that emotion to take over your decision-making process. You have to detach the two. Jocko talks about it a lot. And it's just reinforced constantly in training and in operations overseas. And that would be like, that's because people ask me, like, what should I do? And my biggest thing is just try to remain as objective as possible. You see people freaking out, that doesn't mean that you need to freak out. And you know, another way I've had it described to me that made a big influence on me and the way I think about things is if you think about two circles, like an archery target, but there's only two circles. There's the bowl, the 10 ring, which is super small. And then, god damn it, Dudley, where are you when I need you? What's the big ring? On the outside? Yeah, like five? I guess. It goes 10, 9, 8, out. Whatever the lowest scoring ring is, that would be the other one. So you got two circles. And the big circle is your circle of concern. And the small circle is your circle of influence. I see, and the dangerous thing that I see often is people spending all their time with their energy and effort on the circle of concern. What's going on in the stock market? What's going on on Fox News? What's going on on CNN? Sharing back and forth things on Facebook that probably half of them aren't even true anyway. No research put into it. Is there going to be enough toilet paper? What do I do about this? And they don't have control over any of those things. But that's the stuff that they're worried about. And the only thing that you should spend your time, energy, and effort working on are the things directly inside of your circle of influence. And even inside of that one, there could be the circle of control. And what do you have control over at all times? The things that come out of your mouth. How you behave. Whether or not you allow your emotions to override your decision making process. The way that you communicate. Whether or not you decide to work out as opposed to shoving 4,000 excess calories in your face every single day. If you focus on those things and put your time, energy, and effort in there, you're going to get through stressful situations just fine. Because you actually have more mental capacity because you're trimming off other things that you can't control. The thing about things that you can't control though is some people are thinking that this is one of those things that if you were a paranoid person and you prepped and worried about the future, you would have already stockpiled enough food and toilet paper and ammo and all these different things so that you were ready for this. Whereas people that were just concentrating on day to day life didn't act, didn't think, probably got caught. Probably a balance. A balance. I mean is it reasonable for everybody to have five years of food at their house?