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Brendan Schaub is stand-up comedian, retired professional mixed martial artist, entrepreneur, and host or co-host of several podcasts and YouTube shows, among them "The Fighter and the Kid," "The Schaub Show," "The Golden Hour," "Calabasas Fight Companion." www.thicccboy.com
When Brock, they were in between camp and Brock had his daughter in his hand and people saw him and went to grab him and take pictures and he's holding his daughter. And they grabbed the hand and he's holding his daughter and he just went off on this dude. And he's like the nicest guy ever. Brock's always great. But I guess this fan was like, oh my god Brock Lesnar. And he's like, oh, I want my kids man don't bother me. And some dude was like, nah, let's get a picture and grabs him and he's holding his daughter and just went. And he just was like, what the fuck are you doing, man? He grabbed his arm while he's holding his daughter. He's holding his daughter like this and the guy went earlier. That's what reminds me of it. And grabbed him and he's like, what the fuck dude? I got my daughter here, man. And I'm Brock Lesnar. I'm going to twist your head off. People want what they want and they don't care. I just don't see him fighting again. I'd be happy if I was wrong. I think he definitely wants to get back in there again. I mean, I think he has some fights in his mind that he would like to get back. I think he could beat 95% of the division too. He's a freak, man. He is a freak. You know, Pico Graham's no Pico Graham. He's a fucking freak dude. Pico Graham's. That's just my reference for fucking steroids now. Pico's so hot right now. He's such a freak. He is. You want some skeptical hippo eyes for your boy Novitski. How about the test results for Lesnar showed up, then went away on their website. And they're like, oh, it's just a random mistake. It's just a glitch that $50,000 took care of. How funny is that? I wonder what happened. What do you think happened? I don't know. I literally, I do not know. There's some sort of shadiness there. Think so? Oh, come on, man. If you think you saw this, the end-all, B.L.E. You got your goddamn money. You saw this as technical issues caused online block Brock Lesnar drug test number discrepancy. Here's my problem, Joe. Here's my problem with this. So let's just assume Brock. I don't know. Has he had a needle in his ass? Maybe. Maybe I'm not. I don't know. I've never done it. 100 percent. I would guess. Well, he tested positive in the Mark Hunt fight. Correct. And Mark Suham for that. So so he's Mark Suham. Mark Suham, the UFC still. He's still legal action with that. And he's not in the UFC. His contract's up with UFC. So it's probably get even gnarlier now. So good luck to Mark Hunt. But so Brock Lesnar, we know steroid user his test. What? It just doesn't show up. I mean, that's random. That's coincidence. Right. John Jones greatest fighter of all time. You saw the issues. Pico grams. That's just the coincidence. It's too much of a coincidence for me. OK. But wait a minute. The John Jones, you saw the thing. They tested him positive. Correct. Like, what are you saying? I by the way, did test negative after the fight, even for the metabolites. So for the Pico grams afterwards. So you're saying Pico grams. Pico grams is a unit of measurement. Correct. What he tested positive for. There were no Pico. For this this this steroid. Which and after the fight, there was nothing. Correct. Right. OK. Because the numbers that what they're saying is that what he what his body has in it is a response to this. It's not like they're detecting like an of our in his system. What they're detecting is. It's a passing. It's a metabolite. Correct. What they're detecting is the body responding to the fact that this steroid had been in his system previously. Yes. But they they just coincidence. Yeah. It's not that it's a you keep saying it like it's a joke. But because the situation to me is a joke. Look at it. OK. Why don't you tell me why it's a joke. This is why it's a joke because have you ever heard of any. And before I say all this, Jones is I think whether he did anything or not, he's still the greatest fighter on the planet. He doesn't need this stuff. The reason to me because it's a joke is because the greatest fighter on the planet to ever enter the octagon has all these issues. It's too much of a coincidence to me. OK. He has plenty of issues outside of that. When you say all these issues, you mean steroid issues. Correct. Right. Now, the first one being that don't mean to cut you off. But the first one being the excuse of the dick pills. OK. But but it was like they actually got the dick pills. They tested them. This is all documented. Is it because they. Well, those. They didn't find the dick pills, Joe. They felt what they found were the precursors that can be found in dick pills. So if it's clambutero. What are you talking about? So so the thing that he flagged for those do show up in dick pills. Yes. They also show up in a lot of other things. Right. But he got them the dick pills that he took and they had it in them. Correct. So that means he. So then he took. But the in the amount that he had in his system. What they're saying is the only way that could exist is through a tainted supplement. The way they tested him before, the way they tested him after, the what the small window of time where he was positive for that thing. There'd be no performance enhancing benefit for him to take something in a micro dose or whatever. And that it's in such a small amount that it had to be a tainted supplement. They got them the actual supplement that he took, the dick pill supplement. It had it in it. That contained that. And he got punished for that. This is not like a steroid that he took where it made him a better fighter or made him a better athlete. So to play devil's advocate here. So that that stuff that comes in those dick pills, you can get from other steroids. But it happens to be in those dick pills. You certainly can. Correct. But but that's one narrative that you that to clear that you could say what's in these dick pills. I'm not saying I'm saying you can do that. That's true. But it's in such a small amount in his body. And it wasn't in his body before and it wasn't in his body after, which showed that it was only in his body in extremely small amounts for a small window. Small trace amount. Yep. But a small window of time. So it's not like he had it. It's not even like this stuff, which is a metabolite, which is showing a response to the body, the body responding to the steroids. Let me ask this, Joe. OK. Why does no other fighter have any pico grams that this pulsating effect really? Well, that's not true. I mean, other fighters have tested. Frank Mir tested positive for something. Two years. Tom Lawler tested. But Frank Mir didn't go through the same steps that John Jones did. He didn't provide them with I forget what the exact. There was there was something that John did also that lowered his sentencing. And remember, he was an informant. Yes. Cooperating with you, Sada. Yeah. Or or agreeing to cooperate with you, Sada. Yeah, that. Well, then we're just cool with that. Listen, I don't even know that means I don't either. But let me ask you this. If I agreed to you, Sada, to be an informant, I would never cover snitch stitches. Correct. Well, unless you're John, then no one can beat you up. So you're fine. The only way I can inform you is if something that of that I'm knowing that I know of, I can't inform you of just off that speculation. That was what I asked. Now, it's key. I was like, if he didn't do anything wrong, like, and what is he going to offer? Because unless he took something, unless you know what you're doing, like, if I'm an informant for the FBI or for the feds for cocaine. Right. I know my cocaine. Right. I'm going to get Joe Blow that makes my fucking espresso. Right. I'm going to get the guy who knows the in and outs of cocaine. Right. That's, again, that's I'm like, all right, cool, man. Or they have a conversation with him and he says he can provide them with information how guys are getting away with passing drug tests. And how would you know about that unless you're in on that? I don't either. I'm just saying. Again, to me, all of it is a little too much of coincidence that the best fight on the planet Earth has these issues. The best fight on the planet Earth also ran away from a hit and run, smashed into a girl and broke her arm. He also drove his car into a tree. He's a reckless person who takes a lot of chances and he does some at least in the past has done some things that are not very wise. This could fall under that or could fall in. Correct. Or again, to play devil's advocate. I'm not accusing them of anything. To play devil's advocate or a guy who is that loosey goosey outside the gun might have taken some performance enhancing things because that would be the similar traits. It could have except in this situation, it doesn't line up with the facts of what he took in terms of long term metabolites, short term metabolites and medium term metabolites. The only the only long term metabolites existed, which means that whatever he took, he had to have taken a long time ago. Now, the problem with this is this all comes from that guy, Gregory Ruchenkov. Is that how you say his name? You're talking about the one test. What I'm talking about is the study that shows these metabolites is all from this one individual, this guy, Gregory Ruchenkov, who was the man from that documentary Icarus. He used to work for the Russian doping, the state sponsored doping program. He's the one who established these tests. And the way he established these tests is very highly criticized by people because – Super suspect. Well, it's not suspect, but it's criticized by people because he injected himself and tested all his metabolites on himself. And this has not been done on any peer reviewed test outside of his research. It hasn't been duplicated. The problem is it's not legal to perform these sort of tests on people in America. You can't just shoot people up with illegal steroids in America and find out what it does to them. So they should be able to do that. I told them to get Sean Shelby, whack him up with a bunch of steroids. Sean's down for it. He wants to get bigger. Just do it. Or just do it to Vitor Belfort, where he's fighting to set his down for whatever. Just tell him, look, Vitor, we got an extra couple hundred grand for you on the side. Just do this and let us do some blood work. Fill you up with dick pills. Let's see how it goes, bro. Fucking cocaine tainted creatine. For real. You would do it. Yeah, I don't know, man. I maintain an open mind. I do too. I'm not accusing John of anything. But again, for me, and this is just me, it's too much of a coincidence for it to raise some red flags for me. I talked to two independent scientists outside of Nowitzkiy, where I was sending guys information. They were sending me back. I was sending them all the work that they did. I sent them all the relevant studies. And one of them who was suspicious initially, after reviewing all the stuff, decided that it doesn't seem like it's likely that it could be possible that he could have actually cheated. He said it's more likely – Cheated during that time. More likely that the actual – the tainted supplement excuse is – and by the way, the tainted supplement – I'm using the air quotes supplement – was never provided. That supplement was never provided. So unless they did it to USADA, and USADA didn't want to release it, the number one question was, was it cocaine that was tainted with creatine? That was where people thought it came from. Because it's really – according to Nowitzkiy, when he was working for the government, that would be a really common thing, that creatine was used in cocaine to cut it. Because it looks like coke. It cuts with coke. It's normal. It's not toxic. It's always mixing cheap creatine with cocaine to make more coke. Makes sense. Yeah, makes sense. And that's what Nowitzkiy believed. But that's not what he believed. But he believed that was a possibility. I've heard all sorts of possibilities. Yeah. It'd be interesting to know the actual truth. Yeah. Well, you know, we're not going to know that. I think we know as much as we're going to know, unless John comes out. Unless John retires and is like, you know, if I had a doctor and he would stick it in my fingernails and slowly release. Yeah, with some high-advanced microdosing. He would never admit that, though. Nobody ever admits it. Unless they get caught. It tarnished your legacy, unless it's like a MLB thing. But so many people were quick to jump on the, he's a cheater bandwagon. I'm like, man, you got – You got to be careful with that. You got to be careful with that. But also, you got to be careful with that. But also, you should be suspicious. You should be suspicious. I don't think that if when you saw the Novitski go, it's all good, man. It was a dick pill. You go, cool, man. I don't think you can do that. Well, they definitely didn't do that. He lost a lot of money. No, I'm saying that's what the fans do. That's what the fans do. You know, some people can do that. I think it's okay to go, God, it's just, I don't know, man. Like, it's too much smoke here for me. It's okay to do that. What it's not okay to do is to say, he was cheating. He's – you know, he's busted. He has the stuff in his system. Well, no, it's fine to say why does he have the stuff in the system? Well, they proved – Because that's what I said. Right, but they showed why he had it in the system. Yeah, but it doesn't mean you should have it in your system. No, you definitely should have it in your system. It's not cool to have it in your system. No. No, so it's okay to go, why the fuck is in the best writer in the world system? But what are you doing, dude? That's fine to say. Do you think that there's –