Ayahuasca Made Neal Brennan Believe in God

The wildest one is religion. Go on. They're tax-free. Oh. The amount of money impossible like Joel Osteen is raking in tax-free. Does he have to pay any taxes? Does he have to personally pay taxes? How does that work? I actually have no idea. Find out that's true. I believe that your limited salary if your church is incorporated. But having churches pay no taxes is wild. But that speaks to stability. Where it's like it's the it's cahoots stability. It's like the the Bill of Rights and the Ten Commandments. They're not exactly one-to-one but it's all kind of the there's no coincidence there. Where it's like everything that they it's another wing of the it's a I've used to refer to God as super cup. Like we can't be there but you shout out steal you shout out even if there's no cameras don't steal don't murder don't. But the taxes thing is nuts because Scientology got it. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah they they sued. They sued the federal government and they got tax exempt status. And you know that's wild because you know the guy who wrote it. Yeah. One specific guy who is not just the most he's most prolific author in human history. You know that he published more works of fiction but not that that was all real. No I mean that's what you guys got to take the day off. And they get no taxes. It's pretty wild. I mean if you're like a small Lutheran church and you you know you serve the community and you put on charities and do a bunch of great things and you're like a real asset. Yeah there's a lot of those churches and they should be tax exempt. I don't other than like the Sea Org slave shit I don't care about Scientology. Do you know what I mean. Like I don't think that they're they charge for classes. I don't know. They they kind of make you give them tithe at churches. Seems like it's working out for Tom Cruise. It's working out for a lot of them. So really working out. That's why I don't care. Just don't put people's don't slave people don't do that. Don't kidnap Kelly Miscavige and all that shit. But like the rest of it I don't care about. The rest of it's not any different to me than any other religion. It seems like it's real similar to what goes on in a lot of religions in a sense because there's a lot of religions that force people to work as missionaries. There's a lot of religions that you know ask things to people and you have to tithe 10 percent. And have kids. Don't use birth control. Like that's pretty significant. That's very significant. Yeah. Yeah. And there's gay people. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of weird stuff from religions that we just accept. Yeah. Didn't you say that I think you said this that when you had a psychedelic experience you kind of stopped being an atheist. Yeah. I was I was an atheist and then I was a journey number four. No journey number three. Oh I'm in the present guy. I'm just in it now. And it's not. They I mean again this is what I experienced. So it's not true or false but it's a central creation force that I experienced. There was you know it didn't it didn't have any rules or laws or. Did you get a sense of what this whole thing is supposed to be. Like what are we doing. Like if there's a central creation force and you interact with it like what is it. What does it want. What does it want from us and what is it doing with like life. I my experience this was from the boofo not ayahuasca which I is amazing. Bufo is just too rough for me. I was drowning on incomprehensibility. I don't think it's comprehensible. What the purpose is. That's my experience. I don't I didn't even get love from it. I didn't get hate. I didn't get venom. Yeah I just got indifference. I just got like super powerful. Just power force. Yeah just force. It felt magnetic in a weird way. So is Bufo five methoxy. Yeah it's five. Yeah five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is a very different feeling. That's a very different experience. That one I really thought it was gone. I thought I died. I mean dude I didn't even when I was here last time it wasn't totally recovered. I feel like there's some sort of trend in life and in the cosmos of things getting more complex. And you know I'm not the first person to point this out either. But with human beings in particular everything is about technological innovation and things becoming more more complexed and information being more and more accessible and being more and more connected with each other. It seems like a really really obvious trend. And if you play that trend out you know a thousand years a hundred thousand years a million years like where where is that going. And is that going on all over the universe. And is that what God's doing. Is God all about this constant state of improvement that it goes on forever until you reach like literally like a godlike being. Yeah. Yeah that's the thing with with I had a few kind of rapture experience like ish rapture ish. I just get the feeling that if if like when if there was a rapture or whatever I just think people will go wow this was we fucking were really worried about the wrong shit. For sure. Like beyond even our comprehend like beyond or be so far past what we were like not even worried about fucking or war or any of that stuff. It's like dude it's just about this energy field that I couldn't make heads or tails of in terms of like we're supposed to. Well if you think of amoebas if you think of single celled organisms they eventually become multi-celled organisms they they develop the ability to move around and they come on shore and they evolve and change and this goes on forever and ever and ever. And then one day in 2022 there us that's what we are where the most advanced form that we're aware of that thing. If that keeps going maybe that is what creates the universe itself. Maybe the universe is making itself through us. We're just in this amoeba stage and we can't even comprehend it. To us it's like what are you talking about. We're going to change the world. Like imagine an amoeba being born in the bottom of a volcano silo you know in the bottom of the ocean. I felt like an amoeba on five. Yeah. Well you basically probably are. I think we probably all are a version of that in comparison to this ultimate thing that we're going to become. If if we do keep evolving if evolution is a real thing and it did go from single celled organisms to what we see now in human beings if you just keep going that should that should get to some place of impossible. Energy and power and maybe the universe itself like maybe that's what it's made out of maybe that's how we make things like stars and maybe the universe itself is born out of this and we're just this really tiny stage. This amoeba like stage that will ultimately become the god force of the universe. Maybe that's our ultimate transition between a physical being into this thing of energy and love and light and power and and in indifference in many ways to our own plights because it's it's necessary to achieve this purpose. Like all of our bullshit and maybe all of our struggles and maybe all of our debates about things and trying to figure out what's right and what's wrong and whose philosophies correct and whose behaviors correct. Maybe all of that is just trying to get us to that ultimate stage where we're going to be and that's what happens everywhere in the universe. That's the universe creating itself everywhere all over the place when things get and they have a certain amount of troubles that they have to deal with whether it's tribal invasions or super volcanoes and figure it out. Just get to a point where you can become the next thing. Yeah. And then on and on and on and on and on forever. Yeah. I mean that's I would it's my especially my my five meo experience was about having no sense of order whatsoever. Meaning I was an amoeba. I didn't know what breathing was. I don't know what direction was. I don't know what site was. I didn't know fucking anything. Yeah. And I was I was drowning on. I don't know any. I don't know what a thought is. It was really incredibly difficult. Like it's hard beyond. And so that's what I've come away from. One of the things I've come away with from it with is is the sense of like we're just trying to order things more than anything. Like that's our number one sort of human priority because it's like the best way to survive. Yeah. And I feel like we're ordering for the wrong stuff a lot of the time but it's inevitable.