Ari's Ayahuasca Revelation

So they lead you from a hut that you're staying down. They stop. They go, stop, listen to the insects in the river. He goes, that's going to be amplified soon. I go, OK. He comes and the woman, the shaman, wears his headdress and she beats you with these leaves and rubs his, says whatever chant she says and rubs his stone all over you, gives you the ayahuasca. It tastes like fucking ass. Tastes like whatever's left in this ashtray. You just drink it down. They say, your partner, other side of the fire, you're on this side of the fire, you don't talk. He's having his trip. You're having your trip. That's it. You might throw up because that is the ayahuasca doesn't make a trip. The ayahuasca takes everything out of you and then the chonk. I haven't written down actually. Chocruna was the. Oh, that's a different drug. Yeah. So ayahuasca clears you, unless a chocruna in this case do it. They showed me where the ayahuasca came from. Planted 80 years before they planted it. So drank it. I'm laying there on a mat, just like a thin, thin mat next to this fire in this hut hut. I'm a bit worried about anacondas and jaguars and stuff. But like, so she says, the shaman says, I'm your mother here. The ayahuasca, the root, is your grandmother. My son, who's training to be a shaman, he is your brother. And the fire is your ancestors. So I drank it. He said, stare at the fire for about five minutes then go lay down. My partner started throwing up 10 minutes in, going to the edge. There's two entrances to the thing. Throwing up, I just wasn't coming. It wasn't coming. A little bit of like a light cap and a stem mushroom feel. About, I don't know, an hour and a half or so. And then I started getting nauseous, but I'm trying to choke it down. Like, don't, don't. And then it hit me like, oh, I think I'm supposed to throw up. So I kind of like, pitch black, I mean, away from the fire. Went to the edge. And then like, you know how you can sort of like, and then barked like a little bit and then just unloaded. I was afraid it would be like, retching and retching. It wasn't that. It was just like unloaded. And then he's right there. The shaman's like trainee son with a bowl of water. He goes, swish around, don't drink it. And he goes, are you having visions? Dude, I don't know how he was. I don't know how he was communicating, to be honest. Because he didn't speak Spanish. I barely speak Spanish, and he barely speaks Spanish. But he. Enough. I guess. He was like, are you having visions? And I was like, yeah, they're more like kind of mental. Like, mental mushrooms, mental. And he goes, OK, go back. Be strong. I don't know how he was conveying this to me. But he was like, OK, go be strong. Go lay down there and like, you have to like, be strong. So then it just opened up. So more than an hour and a half in? More than an hour and a half in. Of a seven hour trip. Wow. The partner was going immediately. But like, I see these like fractals and like geometric shapes and occasional like splashes of. And this is the thatch roof of the hut, right? So nothing's there. And occasional like real splash of like vivid neon light. And then I started seeing these like orbs kind of like going up into the fractals. And then the more I look forward and back, I'm on my back. More of a forward, backward, side to side. There's just hundreds or thousands of these orbs, these small orbs going up into the fractals and just sort of like playing with each other. These orbs, they were kind of like had a life to them. So like, and then at some point from me comes this orb and sort of like goes up. And then I started examining what the orbs are. So look, I don't know. I don't know about any of this stuff. But this is just what it gave me. I don't know. It's the same as mushrooms. I don't know if it's just scientific or if it's like another realm, whatever. Right. The orbs were, I call it when you pure something, when you pure it. To me, they were moments of pure artistic expression. You ever have a set or a roll where you're like, I hit every fucking move. You get in the zone. In the zone, sure. You pure it. In golf, Jamie, you might know, it was like when you fucking hit one and you're just like fucking, like up. But you're like, I can't hit the green from here. You do see it go perfectly and bounce. And it's just a pure moment of artistic expression. And generally when I see that, it makes me cry. When I listen to Nevermind, I start, I tear up. You ever hear that album where you're like, oh, this is, they nailed it. They nailed it. They nailed it. Sagar de Familia in Barcelona, this church that was, it's being built still. It was a 200-year plan to build a perfect church. St. Peter's Basilica in Rome. OK. And you see it. Stunning. And I went in there. I just, I mean, I started weeping. Start crying. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. It's just like, it's overwhelmingly perfect. It's art. Yeah. Other moments, I was at the, it didn't have to be big moments. It could be small moments. I was at the Haunted Ride at Disney back in LA. And I was with some chick. And I was like, some guy was like, oh, right, this is, he's playing the role, whatever. And then he left to go greet the next car as we were slowly moving forward. And then I was like, oh, I thought it was creepy, right? And then he was back on me, just going, oh, what did you say? Just frightened me. And I'm like, that guy nailed it. In that moment, we were both fucking jumped. He fucking nailed it. He purered it. And what you want in those moments, you did it, right? You made this thing. And that's the orb. And what you want is to make it for sure. But you also want is some recognition. You want someone to say, like, if you hit that golf shot, you look around, like if you're playing by yourself, and somebody the next to you is like, dude, fucking nice one. You're like, yes, thank you, you saw it, you saw it. Right. And so there's been two things I've gotten that way. Two things that I've had that I'm like, I purered it. One was that storytelling show. This is not happening. I just think it was like, I mean, I don't want to talk about it myself, but it was cool. You nailed it. And it was a way for other comics to show themselves. No, you did. I can express it for you. You did an amazing thing. And those opening sequences where you'd have like these animated fight scenes and shit, they were awesome. They were cool. They were wild. It was just made it cool and fun to watch. And let people go, hey, we're not going to censor you. We want you to do your thing. Your fucking strip club in the woods story is like these moments that I'm also allowing other people to like, so I figured out my orbs. What I do is make stuff myself and then also give a chance for other people to make theirs. It's one of my things I like making. You have the same thing. Where you like having other people make their things. It's one of your art forms is allowing other people to make their art. Another one was this last hour I did, the Jew hour. It was good. It was really fucking, it was good. And so it would have bothered me at the time. I wasn't able to make it as special. But I was able in that moment to go, but I made it. It was good. I made a really fucking really mindful, kind of perfect thing. And yeah, whatever happened, I wasn't able to make millions of people saw it, but thousands of people saw it. Maybe 150,000 people saw it live. But I made it. And I cried hard for that, for this not happening. Not so much for the loss, but for like, when I was able to step back and go like, it's done now. I made it and it hit me like, oh damn dude, that was fucking good. And I just kind of said goodbye to it. And that orb went up and played for eternity. Every time you do something like artistically pure like that and nail it, you pure it, those things are up there in the heavens, in the whatever. They're playing with each other. All the forms, that guy at Disney, the guy who made the Basilica, fucking Kirk Cobain, never mind, not Kirk Cobain, never mind, is up there playing with each other, enjoying each other's company forever. And I saw myself in 50 years dead and the orbs are still playing. And I'm decaying and the orbs are still playing. They'll be there forever. And I was able to sort of like put that behind me and say, I'll move on to my next thing. Because what I want to do is I want to make things. I want to make another orb. And that's kind of all I want to do now, is just make another thing. And I won't always get there, but even if you fail, even if you're like, ah, that set was so, so, you know what's getting you closer to a fucking perfect set. And sometimes it's just a 15 minute set at the fucking whatever club, you know, governors or some shit where it's like, oh, I fucking nailed it. Sometimes it's a 10 minute pop in. You're like that earthquake thing that I saw at the Ha Ha, that was one. Because there was some kid, some young one year comic watching that going like, oh my God, he fucking pure did it in that moment. But you want someone to fucking notice it once in a while. You just, you do. Catch new episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience for free, only on Spotify. Watch back catalog JRE videos on Spotify, including clips, easily, seamlessly switch between video and audio experience. On Spotify, you can listen to the JRE in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data costs, all for free. Spotify is absolutely free. You don't have to have a premium account to watch new JRE episodes. 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