Amish Children Don't Get ADHD - Johann Hari | Joe Rogan

Now, people that are journalists and writers often like stimulants. They often like Adderall. Adderall is a big issue for journalists. How much experience do you have with Adderall? I've never used it. It's supposed to be amazing. You need it. I've never used it precisely because I know I would love it. I've got a young relative who's prescribed it and there are times when I've been... He's sort of tried to not spike me but get me to join him. Come on, this is for you. Adderall opens up a whole other thing, right? This is what you're talking about again, which is... I'm not against people... Obviously not against people using drugs in order to enhance their lives. Before I came here, I drank enough caffeine to kill a whole fucking field of cows, right? I, as viewers could probably tell, I personally limit my stimulant use because I know I can tell... You enjoy them. Yeah, and I can tell that I could easily... A bit like where I did with the Modafinil. When I started using that Modafinil, I got that sense. I just used it every day for three months, right? Which was a ludicrous thing to do. But I think in terms of stimulants, there's a whole debate that needs to be had. Now, I'm going to write about this at some point. But one in 10 13-year-old boys in this country is being given a stimulant drug, right? In any given year. Right, for ADD or ADHD or... I mean, that is horrifying. It's crazy. Right, 30% of children in foster care in the United States are being given at least one psychiatric drug. Yeah. These are not children in the main who are, you know, have some biological insanity. These are kids who've been fucking abused and treated abysmally. And what do we do? We drug them to shut them up, right? Well, it's also children have a lot of energy and it's not easy to control them. And so they decide that these children have something wrong with them. Do you know, I went to this Amish village for Lost Connections, but one thing that's really interesting. There are these people who argue and there needs to be more research on this, but Amish children don't get ADHD, right? And this is big debate. What's going on there? And so there's one argument, which is then obviously not exposed to digital media, which may... And there's some evidence of just speaking to Professor Stephen Lee here. But people were getting loads of ADHD when I was in school and there was no... Exactly. So that's just because I spoke to a guy at UCLA, Professor Stephen Lee, and he's shown there's some effect to digital media, but it's not massive, right? Right. And I think what's happening from the very small amount of research we've been talking to the Amish is, you know, I'd say to them, do you have kids who don't want to sit still? And they go, yeah, we'll let them go off and go fishing, right? The Amish don't want to make you sit still for eight hours a day, right? There's nothing in their society that... There's nothing natural about getting a child to sit still for eight hours a day. It's insane. Just like trying to get a puppy to sit still for eight hours a day. Exactly. That's exactly the right analogy. What we do to our children, we try to deaden them and discipline them to cope and thrive in a deadened and disciplined and inverted commerce economy.