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12 Aug 2024

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What episodes talk about Columbus

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Dude, if you're looking for the episodes that discuss Columbus, the one with Neil deGrasse Tyson is a big one. We dive deep into how Columbus was, honestly, a pretty terrible dude. We talk about his brutal treatment of Native Americans and how it's wild that we still celebrate him with a holiday. Tyson really lays out some horrific accounts from that time, and it’s like, how did we not see this sooner, right?

You know, it’s a tough conversation, but necessary. Columbus is more of a monument to colonialism than exploration, and we need to own up to that. Check out that episode—it’s a real eye-opener!

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Colonialism

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Dude, it’s a heavy topic, right? When you look at figures like Columbus, you really have to peel back the layers of history. I mean, we were taught this glorified version of him as some kind of hero, sailing the ocean blue, but when you dig into the actual accounts from people who traveled with him, it’s brutal. Like, there are documented cases of horrific violence against Indigenous people—shattering babies’ heads on rocks, cutting off arms. It’s wild how long it took for people to come to terms with that.

And it’s not just Columbus; when you think about guys like Genghis Khan, sure, he opened trade routes, but he also killed a massive portion of the population, right? And what’s the takeaway? There’s always that duality in history. On one hand, you have the spread of Western civilization, which has its merits, and on the other, there's this overwhelming brutality.

The conversation is shifting now, though, with things like Indigenous Peoples' Day. It's essential for us to acknowledge the full scope of these histories. We have to grapple with what colonialism meant for the people who were here before. And the fact that it took so long for us to recognize the true nature of these figures speaks volumes about our collective understanding—or lack thereof—of history. It’s all part of this huge dialogue we need to keep having. You know?